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Day 1, Round 1 - Group D: Chinese Taipei - Lebanon

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Day 1, Round 1 - Group D: Chinese Taipei - Lebanon

  • Chinese Taipei

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • Lebanon

    Votes: 11 68.8%
  • Total voters
    16
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judasmartel2

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This year probably marks the last tour of duty for Chinese Taipei NT players Lin Chih-Chieh, Tseng Wen-ting, Wu Tai-hao, Tien Lei, among others. In this veteran-laden team they have the promising 24-year-old Liu Cheng, who is expected to be the face of the Chinese Taipei NT for years to come.

Lebanon, on the other hand, is without Fadi El Khatib on the team, after failed negotiations with his CBA team, the Foshan Dragons. They have, however, a new naturalized player in Jay Youngblood, who just got together with the team earlier this week.

With no El Khatib on the team and Lebanon recently coming out of the FIBA suspension 2 years ago, chances for Lebanon to win this game is 50/50, but so is for Chinese Taipei which just lost all of their 3 games in a pocket tournament in Manila, one to a local PH ball club, right after winning the bronze medal at the William Jones Cup in Taipei.

Anything goes, indeed.
 
Even without El Khatib (& veteran national players Roni fahed & Ali Mahmoud), I still see Lebanon as a competitive team. If this (playing w/o El Khatib) was some 5 to 7 years ago, I believe Khatib's absence would be a huge deciding factor, but I think for the last 4 years or so, Lebanon has develop young & promising players that are going to succeed the veteran international players. I think guys like Ahmad Ibrahim, Wael Arakji & Amir Saoud are very promising players.

I think its going to be a close game, with Taiwan, with more veteran players, having a slight edge.
 
I heard Rony Fahed will serve as commentator for the Lebanese broadcast of FIBA Asia though.
 
I'm guessing Chih-Chieh is the only one hanging up his International Jersey. Hopefully Liu Cheng and Chou Yi-Hsiang will take over. :)

Rooting for TPE.
 
ZekeQ said:
I'm guessing Chih-Chieh is the only one hanging up his International Jersey. Hopefully Liu Cheng and Chou Yi-Hsiang will take over. :)

Rooting for TPE.
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I see. So we can see Tseng and Tien Lei on the team for 1-2 more years?
 
JAMSKIE said:
Even without El Khatib (& veteran national players Roni fahed & Ali Mahmoud), I still see Lebanon as a competitive team. If this (playing w/o El Khatib) was some 5 to 7 years ago, I believe Khatib's absence would be a huge deciding factor, but I think for the last 4 years or so, Lebanon has develop young & promising players that are going to succeed the veteran international players. I think guys like Ahmad Ibrahim, Wael Arakji & Amir Saoud are very promising players.

I think its going to be a close game, with Taiwan, with more veteran players, having a slight edge.
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Ahmad Ibrahim and Wael Arakji are promising players! Wael played very well in the 2015 Adidas EuroCamp
"The first game included quality performances from three of the more unheralded players on this year's roster. Lebanese guard Wael Arakji scored only 6 points on 3/3 shooting, but dished out 5 assists and pulled down 5 rebounds. The big point guard from Al Riyadi Beirut made an impact with his quickness and competitiveness, probing the paint and setting the table for others and coming up with a pair of steals defensively. One of the more unheralded players to declare for the 2015 NBA Draft, having played his entire career in his home country, Arakji is a player many scouts are keeping a close eye on here. At 6'4, 195-pounds, he has terrific size for his positions, and though he lacks great shooting ability, his athleticism and motor give him some intrigue. It will be worth monitoring whether the 94-born prospect leaves his name in the draft, as it could provide a clear indication of his confidence in being selected. His play today was a step in the right direction towards that end."

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3mSA2RBQg
http://www.draftexpress.com
 
judasmartel said:
I see. So we can see Tseng and Tien Lei on the team for 1-2 more years?
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Hopefully. IMHO TPE has lots of Talented Swingman, with Lin's departure it won't hurt the team. The bad side is they are Lacking of Talented Bigman as successor of Tseng and Lei. I hope Tien Lei will train Kevin Hu to be a good one. :)
 
Is Ibrahim the kid who played in 2009 for your youth team? He was a monster back then.
 
ricodgame said:
Is Ibrahim the kid who played in 2009 for your youth team? He was a monster back then.
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He sure is!
I created this thread for him back in 2008 when he was just 16 years old playing in the Lebanese U18 NT... He didn't quite develop into the player we had hoped he would be... But still Ahmad is a great player at the moment and one of the essential players for the Lebanese NT

http://www.interbasket.net/forums/showthread.php?7891-Ahmad-Ibrahim-The-Future-Hope-of-Lebanon
 
Well most of the members in the predictions thread are giving taipe the win. I hope we prove everyone wrong tomorrow. We have the talent and sure better than taipe but we lack this year the preparations, chemistry and international experience. Our first game is the most important. Winning against them should almost secure us a 2nd round qualification cause i am sure game by game we will be gaining back our momentum and we will become harder to beat.
 
FIBA ASIA past meetings

Lebanon vs Taipei (2W-1L)
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July 24, 2001 - 2nd Round - Lebanon Won 87-72
August 1, 2007 - 2nd Round - Lebanon Won 95-64
September 19, 2011 - 2nd Round - Chinese Taipei Won 58-60
 
mavrick_h said:
FIBA ASIA past meetings

Lebanon vs Taipei (2W-1L)
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July 24, 2001 - 2nd Round - Lebanon Won 87-72
August 1, 2007 - 2nd Round - Lebanon Won 95-64
September 19, 2011 - 2nd Round - Chinese Taipei Won 58-60
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On the which base is Taipei better then Lebanon? I don't see any position where's Taipei better then Lebanon... Akl, Nour, Bawji, Arakji, Souaid, Youngblood, Tabet, Haidar are european league's level players...
 
chacharko said:
On the which base is Taipei better then Lebanon? I don't see any position where's Taipei better then Lebanon... Akl, Nour, Bawji, Arakji, Souaid, Youngblood, Tabet, Haidar are european league's level players...
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They are not better talent wise. They had a better preparation and international experience. Most of the lebanese players are entering the asian scene for the first time.
 
ZekeQ said:
Hopefully. IMHO TPE has lots of Talented Swingman, with Lin's departure it won't hurt the team. The bad side is they are Lacking of Talented Bigman as successor of Tseng and Lei. I hope Tien Lei will train Kevin Hu to be a good one. :)
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Agree. Taiwan will always have talented swingmen & guards but doesn't have the luxury of having enough talent at the big men positions. Once Tseng Wen Teng & Tien Lei retire from the national team, then I think the team would be left w/ a big void in the middle. Looking at Taiwan's developmental team (their Team-B in the Jones Cup), one could notice the presence of promising swingmen & guards but w/ the lack of talent at the big man spots.
 
lebanese NT said:
They are not better talent wise. They had a better preparation and international experience. Most of the lebanese players are entering the asian scene for the first time.
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Correct! Its more on Taiwan having the edge in experience & team cohesion. The core of Taiwan's team have been playing international basketball together for about 10 years now. Lebanon on the other hand has a No. of players who are 1st-timers in this tournament. So in terms of cohesion & international game experience, Taiwan has the edge.
 
A visibly slimmed down Quincy Davis is adjusting well into the pick and roll as TPE is looking to run once again. This means less "feed the post to Davis" plays.
 
Khalid80 said:
He sure is!
I created this thread for him back in 2008 when he was just 16 years old playing in the Lebanese U18 NT... He didn't quite develop into the player we had hoped he would be... But still Ahmad is a great player at the moment and one of the essential players for the Lebanese NT

http://www.interbasket.net/forums/showthread.php?7891-Ahmad-Ibrahim-The-Future-Hope-of-Lebanon
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Remembered he played with Kazemi of Iran in Rice NCAA Div 1. He was hyped up after his U-18 performances.
 
JAMSKIE said:
Correct! Its more on Taiwan having the edge in experience & team cohesion. The core of Taiwan's team have been playing international basketball together for about 10 years now. Lebanon on the other hand has a No. of players who are 1st-timers in this tournament. So in terms of cohesion & international game experience, Taiwan has the edge.
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Lebanon can still do it though! If we can limit their outside game to less than 35% FG we will surely win.
 
eiji_sawakita said:
Remembered he played with Kazemi of Iran in Rice NCAA Div 1. He was hyped up after his U-18 performances.
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Yeah they were teammates in Rice along with Omar Orabi who plays with the Egyptian NT... I think maybe if Ahmad had stayed in the U.S he could have developed his game even more.. but it was his decision to come back to Lebanon and we all support it.. Let's hope he can become a true leader for his team in Riyadi and with the Lebanese NT
 
This is the marquee match up of Day 1. 4 point win, either way.
 
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