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[Day 1] Group A: Jordan vs. Greece

[Day 1] Group A: Jordan vs. Greece

  • Jordan

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Greece

    Votes: 24 92.3%
  • Total voters
    26
Olympiacos said:
Hey guys, let's not read too much into this. Greece hit a lot of their outside shots. When Greece is hitting their 3's well - no one can beat them. Not Spain, not USA, nobody. The problem for Greece is that normally, they struggle to hit outside shots and have weakness against zone. Although without Diamantidis, I always find that Greece has way better ball movement and thus handles the zone better.

When Greece is hitting a lot of 3's, no one beats them, not even Team USA. Greece beat Canada by something like 120 - 47 because they were also having a good shooting game from outside.

So let's not just take this score too seriously. I don't think Greece is necessarily a plus 44 against Jordan in a realistic truth. Just like they were not realistically a +73 against Canada. Then again, Spanoulis barely even had the ball and was hardly even trying and they still scored 107. But I think Jordan just gave up early.

Both teams tried to conserve energy after that like 21-0 run Greece had.



Everyone (well except USA) admits and knows that Puerto Rico has a very nice team and they are always tough. But how can you be so confident as this? Calm down man, and wait for the game. It should be a good game.

But I don't see any way that you can just flat out say Puerto Rico is beating Greece. You sound like those annoying NBA only fans that think a team's strength is solely based on how many NBA players it has.

I am not expecting any easy game for Greece, but come on, Puerto Rico has their hands full with Greece and they are the underdog.
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Im telling PR is going to beat Greece by the fact that we may have the best 1-2 combo of the Tourney with Arroyo and Barea. This duo will drive other teams crazy and none can match their speed. But les see how we do in terms of foul trouble etc. That has been our downfall recently
 
JGX said:
Now I'm even more sad that the Philippines didn't make it to this stage. They couldn't possibly have done worse than Jordan and they would have made the IBN discussions a lot more interesting.
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This is what I was thinking the entire game, even if they had gotten blown out we would have gotten a few days of good chat out of it. :)
 
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Lol at vasileiadis.''Puerto rico are playing dirty...ahem..I mean in a basketball way ahemm
 
Talking tactically, is obvious that Zouros tries to use many elements from Olympiakos in the team. Fast pace and switching players on pick on roll defence are just two of these. It's quite logical because most of the team's players were playing for Olympiakos last year and Spanoulis is also the leader of both teams. But even players from other teams such as Bramos, Kalathes, Vasileiadis and Kaimakoglou fits very well with this playing style.

Defending pick n roll by switches requires defencive versatility. I think this is what Zouros had in mind when he cut Vougioukas and still has when he is using Kaimakoglou as a center.

Baldwin was right. Greece doesn't have much inside game but the playing style that Zouros wants to play, doesn't need that much inside game.
 
mochoso said:
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Im telling PR is going to beat Greece by the fact that we may have the best 1-2 combo of the Tourney with Arroyo and Barea. This duo will drive other teams crazy and none can match their speed. But les see how we do in terms of foul trouble etc. That has been our downfall recently
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Better than the guards of Greece?
Spanoulis,Calathes,Zisis???
I don`t know that well Barea but Arroyo is not better.
 
mochoso said:
On Wednesday, Puerto Rico will beat Greece. They look strong today, but against a weak Jordan team.
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Hmmm...No,my friend.History,papers and the game are with ous...You are the outsider
and you will try for the win.I believe that you wont manage to do very much:rolleyes:
 
Olympiacos said:
Sofo and Koufos and Bourousis is the best offensive center rotation on the planet, but it leaves a lot to be desired on defense.
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Why not in the history of basketball? Forget about Gasol bros duo with Fran Vazquez added, forget about Dwight Howard+Kevin Love+Andy Bynum - they can't match Greek epic centers. Also you all tend to forget that Pau has sucky play-off in 2012 averaging only marginal 12 ppg while mighty Koufos excelled in play-off with huge numbers of 0.7 ppg and 33.3% FGM.
Man, I understand that patriotism and loving your country and its national team is a good thing but you seriously need to stop writing megalomaniac bullshit if you don't want to loose all your credibility. In fact, even average national team like Australia has center rotation Bogut+Andersen+Maric+Jawai which definitely isn't worse than Sofo+Koufos+Bouroussis+Vougyoukas. Sofo is a great player who still is way too fat and slow and can play only limited time on the floor, Bouroussis is solid yet nothing to write home about and Koufos being athletic but so brainless sucks really hard anywhere he plays. That's not a dream center lineup, no way.
 
klakis said:
Better than the guards of Greece?
Spanoulis,Calathes,Zisis???
I don`t know that well Barea but Arroyo is not better.
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Don't forget Mantzaris. He is the third guard of the EL champions. A great defender and he can potentially do a good job against Barea and Arroyo. Not to mention that he can rest Spanoulis, Calathes and Zisis. These four Greek guards have a lot of experience. Having won either the Euroleague, Eurobasket or both (Spanoulis).
Also, we shouldn't forget Bramos who is a great defender as well. He can be used to put some pressure on the Puerto Rican guards. So Greece has five guards to stop Barrea and Arroyo. I think that, if anything, Greece is the worst team for Puerto Rico in the tournament, because they have the tools to stop their greatest weapons.

The last time Greece played them though, Puerto Rico was hard to beat. But under Kazlauskas Greece was not that good defensively.
 
Greece guards cant match Barea/Arroyo duo. They can stop a few plays but they will get out of control when the dynamic duo starts their engine at full speed.. Cant wait for tomorrow
 
mochoso said:
Greece guards cant match Barea/Arroyo duo. They can stop a few plays but they will get out of control when the dynamic duo starts their engine at full speed.. Cant wait for tomorrow
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that dynamic duo is the worst mistake PR basketball is doing, I cant wait for Barea to get injured. Then we might have a real chance to get to London.
 
pretty funny how many of u dare to compare a scumbag like Spannoulis with Arroyo who had a pretty decent run during his prime in the NBA and Barea who's having a good career in the best league in the world.
 
-K2- said:
pretty funny how many of u dare to compare a scumbag like Spannoulis with Arroyo who had a pretty decent run during his prime in the NBA and Barea who's having a good career in the best league in the world.
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I wouldn't compare Spanoulis with Arroyo. Spanoulis is one of the best three guards in Europe. Along with Navarro and Diamantidis. Arroyo is simply a good player who plays for an average team like Besiktas. Top european teams wouldn't go for players like Arroyo.
Barea is good, but there are a lot of decent European guards in the NBA as well. Doesn't say much. You see, in Europe we don't look at guards the same way as in the Americas. In our glasses, Barea and Arroyo are good guards. They are good shooters and ball handlers, but they may lack something to win titles. For example, if Arroyo or Barrea would play for Olympiacos instead of Spanoulis last season, they most probably wouldn't have been European champions. Sure, at any moment Arroyo or Barrea may have a hell of a day and win the game, but in general they probably lack stability to direct a disciplined top European team. Or at least, they wouldn't be as good at it as players like Spanoulis and Navarro.
 
I do know how basketball works in Europe, europeans doesnt know how basketball works for americans, that the issue I tried to make with that sarcastic post. The something he lack is a european passport. Cheers and have a great day kid.

Btwn Barea is not a PG.
 
Spanoulis is the best guard in Europe. Arroyo plays in Europe too, and he's not even really in the discussion for that.
 
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