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BIGGEST ROB OF ALL TIME, India should NEVER host any FIBA event again

sinobball2

sinobball2

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If I tell you all these things happened in the same official FIBA game:

1) A good layup is made, but scorer's table did not update the score
2) Scorer's table did not run 24-second shot clock at all, and had to readjust after ball went out of bounds and a team made protests
3) A player is fouled out, but later comes back to play, and after a while when refs inquired about it, the scorer's table just changed the number of fouls from 5 to 4!

These things all happened in the FIBA Women's Asia Cup, North Korea - Chinese Taipei game! Anybody with a livebasketball.tv account can watch the tape, North Korea made a steal and layup at 8:54 in the second quarter, but instead of punching +2, the scorer's table punched -1 followed by +1, nobody discovered it (and I only checked because the FIBA announcer thought he did his math wrong), and North Korea were robbed of 2 points, and they lost by 1!

I've never seen such ineptitude! BTW, in the China-NZL game, when China #7 Shao Ting scored in the first quarter, the video caption read Edmonson (NZL's #7) 2 points...
 
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The previous question can only be explained by the discrepancy in the final score and the individual scoring total! Because of the discrepancy and to cover their asses, FIBA/scorer's table just randomly changes someone's statistics!

Here at the second quarter play-by-play: http://www.fiba.com/womensasiacup/2017/2307/Chinese-Taipei-D-P-R-of-Korea#tab=play_by_play,q2
It says:
08:49
22-31 #3 M. Jang
3pt shot made
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But when you go to the box score: http://www.fiba.com/womensasiacup/2017/2307/Chinese-Taipei-D-P-R-of-Korea#tab=boxscore_statistics
#3 M. Jang only has 2 points!

So wtf is going on? Maybe North Korea is being robbed of 5 points?!
 

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The Indians at the scorer's table are lucky that only this 1 game was close so people did not pay attention to the scores/fouls in the other 3 games today! How can you work at the scorer's table and not know how to keep track of the scores? Or to remember to run the shot clock?
 
this is a shame, maybe it is growing pains of the sport in India?
 
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If you look at the bottom, Ro already had 4 fouls late in the 3rd

And she picked up another foul at 6:34 in the fourth
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But they allowed her back in the game without realizing it, so they eventually had to change the # of fouls from 5 to 4! In order to do that they went back to the play-by-play and removed her fouls! Now the box score says 4 fouls, but if you go back to the play-by-play and count all her fouls there are only 3, they can't even fabricate correctly!
 
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This is just an example of the outrageous play-by-play that exists now (http://www.fiba.com/womensasiacup/2017/2307/Chinese-Taipei-D-P-R-of-Korea#tab=play_by_play,q2), in the second quarter, after #27 Y. Lin scored the "layup" for TPE (Lin Yu-ting actually hit a 10-foot jumper but somehow the Indians considered it a "layup"), how can a North Korean steal the ball after they had an offensive board without them scoring or tuning the ball over? After PRK hit a 3, how can the North Korean miss another shot without the TPE players turning the ball over or scoring?

What actually happened is the North Koreans scored! But received no points. So they had removed the entire sequence of several plays!
 
Did Korea DPR team file a protest? Such mistakes are unacceptable at such a high level of competition!
 
I do not trust the broadcast figures, the ones shown in the screen. they may be wrong and the table might be right. I'm not saying this is the case, but it might be. I've seen it many times before and even in the EL and in the recent u20 European Championship, where the fouls and points were assigned incorrectly, a player with 5 "apparent" fouls in one instance even made the winning shot. The information was on display was probably incorrect.

If the game was recorded, these can be checked in detail by Fiba.
 
sinobball said:
The previous question can only be explained by the discrepancy in the final score and the individual scoring total! Because of the discrepancy and to cover their asses, FIBA/scorer's table just randomly changes someone's statistics!

Here at the second quarter play-by-play: http://www.fiba.com/womensasiacup/2017/2307/Chinese-Taipei-D-P-R-of-Korea#tab=play_by_play,q2
It says:
08:49
22-31 #3 M. Jang
3pt shot made
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But when you go to the box score: http://www.fiba.com/womensasiacup/2017/2307/Chinese-Taipei-D-P-R-of-Korea#tab=boxscore_statistics
#3 M. Jang only has 2 points!

So wtf is going on? Maybe North Korea is being robbed of 5 points?!
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#11 hit the three, then #3 had the steal and basket which no longer shows up in the PBP. Did Korea definitely score 28 points in the first quarter or was that a mistake too?

I remember a youth women's game between the US and Australia where the live stats had the US scoring a million points in the final minute for a miraculous comeback win, turned out that a bunch of baskets scored earlier just hadn't registered.
 
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Did Korea definitely score 28 points in the first quarter or was that a mistake too?
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Yup. Watched the replay and they scored 28 in the first quarter. Crazy.

The shot chart still shows all 14 baskets by Ro Suk-Yong. It also shows the basket by Jang which doesn't appear to have counted, but it does not show the three-pointer that came before it.
 
As for Ro's fouls, I think the foul listed in the PBP with 41 seconds left in the third quarter was actually against #11--Ro was guarding the shooter, so if there had been a foul against her it would have been a shooting foul. BUT there are two of her actual fouls (1:13 left in the first quarter and 4:41 left in the second quarter) not listed in the PBP, so she did have five fouls.
 
it is China who shouldn't host. The previous FIBA Asia Championship is exhibit A. Poor bully host. Referee bribing. How many times has their national team caused riots with other teams? They only act tough in their territory but outside they can't back it up.

Incompetence happens to everyone but cheating is an entire different matter.
 
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