BBL (Baltic Basketball League) 2008-2009

[joker2]

Yeah, if 3-4 years ago someone would've predicted his biggest accomplishment by 2009 is only BBL MVP, everyone woulda laughed. Too bad it's the only league besides LKL he ever gets that title.
I don't get it, if those "big European clubs" were so much after Jankunas and Maciulis, why didnt they leave Zalgiris? If you tell me it's because of "pride and dedication you'll never understand", how come it was so gone in that legendary 84:57 game suddenly?

Žalgiris offered them enough money. Also they are both still studying in a university in Kaunas. Jankūnas became a father last autumn and said that he wouldn't like to go abroad with his baby. That's why they wanted to stay.

Regarding the game, I still believe Rytas or Lithuanian Basketball Federation let Zalgiris win that game as Lithuanian basketball pride ("We cannot let those slow Estonians to get ahead of our superclub, legendary Zalgiris") was obviously more important than rivalry, especially in these difficult times. Lithuanians stick together, don't they? As vicious the rivalry, neither of the clubs would like to see the other club to vanish, I guess.
I predict zero wins to Zalgiris in matches with Rytas, at least in any of the games outside Kaunas this season.

Lithuanian basketball federation (LKF) has nothing to do with Lithuanian basketball league (LKL). These are completely different organisations. And none of them cares about estonians. You are wrong - both clubs would like to see their main rival out of BBL Final four or any other tournament, because it would mean an easy title and a bad image to rival. "Lietuvos rytas" media group is always doing everything they can to make life even more difficult for Žalgiris. Especially after their main rival, "Respublika" media group, saved Žalgiris a few weeks ago. By the way both BBL and LKL are in the pocket of "Lietuvos rytas" through Romualdas Brazauskas and Tomas Rimkus, so it is impossible for Žalgiris to get any help from them.

Do you really believe that Estonian basketball became very important in Lithuania? That someone here is afraid of estonians and worried about pride of lithuanian basketball? No one cares about that loss in Tallinn. That game hasn't received almost any special attention here and there was no serious public reaction. For the last month or two the main topic here in Lithuania is the rescue of Žalgiris. Then there is some talk about LKL Finals. But there is no talk about estonians and almost no about BBL, who is a joke. These jerks are still changing the date of the Final 4 and they still don't know where will it be.

Žalgiris has won four last matches in Siemens arena.

 

[auris12]

...Regarding the game, I still believe Rytas or Lithuanian Basketball Federation let Zalgiris win that game as Lithuanian basketball pride ("We cannot let those slow Estonians to get ahead of our superclub, legendary Zalgiris") was obviously more important than rivalry, especially in these difficult times.

I just realized after reading your posts that that phrase “slow Estonians “(coined by you) in your case has completely different meaning.

 

[Nimonas2]

both BBL and LKL are in the pocket of "Lietuvos rytas" through Romualdas Brazauskas and Tomas Rimkus

another good one)))
this thread has become my favourite one.

 

[Straight forward2]

That’s just lame
Firstly you accuse me of being strange, and then you just dismiss me with never mind to proceed with the thought that everyone agreed upon long time ago (well apart from Richey of course).
And I am still waiting to hear when I was unhappy about inside knowledge

What the hell is your problem, man?
All I'm saying that as I understood you were saying that the game of Rytas- ZAL was fixed. (If I misunderstood we should quit this already). And I disagreed with that, cause that's not grounded. And you're the one who don't like "inside out knowledge" (you tell me what it means ).

It never ceases to amaze me how people here tend to have deep and thorough inside out knowledge of the basketball.

 

[auris12]

And you're the one who don't like "inside out knowledge"

Ahh , i get it now. Well, by inside out I probably meant in and outs .Or knowing things on court and outside it as well. That was in reply to the comment that Kleiza should have few months off in the middle of the season. And it wasn’t a complain rather than a joke

 

[lafa2]

What the hell is your problem, man?
All I'm saying that as I understood you were saying that the game of Rytas- ZAL was fixed. (If I misunderstood we should quit this already). And I disagreed with that, cause that's not grounded. And you're the one who don't like "inside out knowledge" (you tell me what it means ).

dude, your software is waaaay outdated. Your Houmorsense is v.1.6, which doesn't support pretty useful plugins Sarcasm v.2 and Irony v.3.6. But those two are in service pack, that comes with brain 6.5. In your case it looks that your using brain 4.3, which won't accept installation of the beforementioned plugins, and that's just sad...

in other words, for those who dumb enough, i'll bold the part, which tells me hwo has some working grey cells in their grey_cell_container:

Even I have to admit – that was definite and shameless fix. It wasn’t that obvious until the very last second but still. Now I feel sorry for them 50 Estonians that that would have been attending final 4 in Talin. Still-there is hope.

 

[Straight forward2]

dude, your software is waaaay outdated. Your Houmorsense is v.1.6, which doesn't support pretty useful plugins Sarcasm v.2 and Irony v.3.6. But those two are in service pack, that comes with brain 6.5. In your case it looks that your using brain 4.3, which won't accept installation of the beforementioned plugins, and that's just sad...

in other words, for those who dumb enough, i'll bold the part, which tells me hwo has some working grey cells in their grey_cell_container:

dude, relax you didn't sound smart in this post really.

 

[lafa2]

dude, relax you didn't sound smart in this post really.

frankly it wasn't my intention, i really wanted to help you.

 

[Straight forward2]

frankly it wasn't my intention, i really wanted to help you.

You're only bringing shame to your self with that kind of posts.

It seems this thread is making people go crazy.

 

[C-ka2]

Yeah, if 3-4 years ago someone would've predicted his biggest accomplishment by 2009 is only BBL MVP, everyone woulda laughed. Too bad it's the only league besides LKL he ever gets that title.
I don't get it, if those "big European clubs" were so much after Jankunas and Maciulis, why didnt they leave Zalgiris? If you tell me it's because of "pride and dedication you'll never understand", how come it was so gone in that legendary 84:57 game suddenly?

I second that Estonians are actually the only ones who care about "that legendary game"... and look quite silly bragging about it all around.
It seems your knowladge is actually very very shallow, again you talk out of your ass about things that "woulda happened some time ago", as well as claiming that something won't ever happen in the future. silly again.
How many "MVP's" does Kalev have (especially Estonian players)? None? That's what I thought. If you'd use your brain you'd understand that MVP award is just something that is given to only one or two Euroleague players per season. I doubt Nikola Vujcic ever got an MVP award in the higher level, does that mean he's a loser too? None says Jankunas is the best in Europe, eventhough in the Estonian league there is no player who is even close to his level.

And obviously, you look simply pathetic trying to convince Zalgiris is so much weaker than Rytas. Do you at least know the results of other matches between 'em this season? If you do, and still say this crap, you are a complete idiot.


Nimonas, you got to be blind not to admit Rimkus is a defender of Rytas' interests, dunno about Brazauskas, but I believe joker has his arguments.

Straight forward, I have to admit your thinking is quite shallow not to understand such post. it's easy to believe everybody else are just "behaving shamefully", but you gotta look at you're self, that's the only way you can improve you brain version. ;D

 

[Straight forward2]

Straight forward, I have to admit your thinking is quite shallow not to understand such post. it's easy to believe everybody else are just "behaving shamefully", but you gotta look at you're self, that's the only way you can improve you brain version. ;D

You're some kind of teachers or what? I never said I can't understand any post here unless it's disjointed posts (what is pretty frequent for some users). I never tell people what they should do and I really suggest the same to you.
The ones who try to "teach" the others in their posts just show their weakness.

 

[lafa2]

You're some kind of teachers or what? I never said I can't understand any post here unless it's disjointed posts (what is pretty frequent for some users). I never tell people what they should do and I really suggest the same to you.
The ones who try to "teach" the others in their posts just show their weakness.

dude, every second of your posts crack me up. keep up the good work!
sorry for OT...

 

[Troll2]

Well rock won and goes to final 4... last sec 3 from Tanoka Beard lol how unlucky can Kalev get haha. The game was there for Kalev to take it but all the players had a brain meltdown and couldn't do anything right so thats it the weaker team won so Zalgiris must be happy at least. Not gonna blame the ref's for this loss, tho they were quite bad. I would rather blame Fox and Linehan for taking contested 3's 6 sec into an offense and other nonsense.

 

[Get Rich Or Die Playin2]

ASK Riga is rolling to Final Four, gotta love it!

 

[Fermoy2]

Rock can play good games ONLY against Kalev....Was the same "fix" as Rytas vs Zalgiris.

 

[Demarr2]

I can't f*cking believe it..

Rock just sits back for most of the season and when it comes to beat their archrival BC Kalev in the quarter-finals, they manage to do it. This is a nightmare.

http://sport.err.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=7665

 

[Richey6662]

Well, with today's game Kalev would've had no chances in FF anyway, it was just plain horrible display of non-exsistent teamplay unforced errors and stupid decisions, seems like complete breakdown at the end of season, just like last year.
Rock was also horrible, they just had more teamplay and a tiny little bit more luck with Beard's absurd buzzer-beater from 9 meters. Reminded me of unbelievable Duncan threepointer in last years playoffs, which basically killed Phoenix.

So whether Rytas-Zalgiris game was fixed or not, I will apologize and admit that final will likely played between Lithuanian clubs. Terrible day, but life goes on, at least personal life is wonderful.

 

[Richey6662]

Me too. Huge respect to ASK, who regardless of losing all the best players during the season still managed to fight into FF. In last game with Siauliai they only had 7 players and 204cm Helmanis, forward, probably had to play center position?
That's what I call soul and I wish it would exist in Kalev, who
played terrific season and had great potential, but choked as usually in playoffs.

ASK Riga is rolling to Final Four, gotta love it!

 

[Demarr2]

Tartu will host this years Final Four
http://ohtuleht.ee/index.aspx?id=322930

 

[auris12]

From very reliable sources – T. Beard got paid to make that decisive last second three point shot. Admittedly it was all planned long beforehand, when Zalgiris cleverly sacked him and after unsuccessful spells in Israel (part of the master plan) he got signed for Tartu (and getting paid) those proving the conspiracy theory against Talin team. You could expect that from Lithuanians conspiring to avoid Talin team but get stuffed in such manner by another Estonian team wow,this shit is deep as they say overseas