Ąžuolas Tubelis thread

[Toruko2]

Dude...seriously? OK, I agree ANGT is not the best indicator, but it's still a stage of consideration. Second, Marciulionis already showed strides of scoring potential in March Madness this Spring, you like it or not. He became stronger, really can get inside, can score with floater or lay up with either hand. He crosses over people and you off course don't understand it, but facilitation is a big factor of the game. I'm not saying he'll be big scorer, but he's not a guy who can't score. But we'll see.

Last observation just makes me smile. Can you name me potentially more deadly facilitating trio than Jokubaitis at 1, Buzelis at 3 and Sabonis at 5? Like literally you would be sweating globally.

Look, I had the same hopes with Tibet Gorener but he turned out to be nothing. Just 6 points in 20 minutes means you can do nothing. I accepted it because it is how it is. Trying to implement him to the NT is up to you but it will be causing many problems.

 

[Straight forward2]

Look, I had the same hopes with Tibet Gorener but he turned out to be nothing. Just 6 points in 20 minutes means you can do nothing. I accepted it because it is how it is. Trying to implement him to the NT is up to you but it will be causing many problems.

Is Thomas Walkup a good player (useful) at the high level or not?

 

[Toruko2]

Is Thomas Walkup a good player (useful) at the high level or not?

Walkup is a 35% spot up shooter with limited but existing creativity. I havent watched him very often but you cant deceive stats. A player which have the same profile with another one doesnt mean he will reach the same level. At the moment he is even questionable for Rytas unlike Tubelis.

 

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Walkup is a 35% spot up shooter with limited but existing creativity. I havent watched him very often but you cant deceive stats. A player which have the same profile with another one doesnt mean he will reach the same level. At the moment he is even questionable for Rytas unlike Tubelis.

Walkup in the final 4 was 0/5 from three, but he still made impact with his great D and very solid play making with 6.5apg. He was literally scoreless, but nevertheless very useful role player for Champ's level EL club.

And, no, Rytas would gladly take Marciulionis. Anyway, we'll see more what's with him in next weeks as he will show up in reserve NT.

 

[Straight forward2]

That's how Sixers reporter sees 3 goals of Tubelis this season. I personally think Embiid may be out with injuries as he often is and hope that Tubelis gets chances in NBA in those stretches. Last 2 seasons he averaged 67 games which shows he improved his discipline and diet, but he is still a bit of injury prone, IMO. Not that I wish Embiid injuries though:

Meet Mr. Longabardi

Considering Tubelis is on a two-way deal and the Sixers already have backup big men for Joel Embiid, Tubelis is likely ticketed for the G League. That is where he will meet Mke Longabardi, the new coach of the Delaware Blue Coats. That will give Tubelis his chance to get the necessary court time he needs.


Improve defensively

Tubelis has work to do on the defensive end. While his offensive game is something that could translate to the NBA right away, he needs work on the other end of the floor before he can become a legitimate player in this league. He had issues in the summer league and the Blue Coats will offer the opportunity to improve on that end.


Add weight

This goes hand in hand with improving on the defensive end. If Tubelis can get in the weight room and add to his body, he is going to be in good shape. He has a smooth offensive game and an understanding of where he needs to be on that end of the floor, but to really take that next step, he has to add weight and be better on the defensive end.

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/lis...them&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter



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[Straight forward2]

When Tubelis entered NCAA he provided nice defensive effort. In Youth level he also looked really good defensively. With bigger offensive role I think he just tented to be more passive in the D end, but he has the tools to be at least solid at it, IMO. Here's the good example:

https://twitter.com/idprospects/status/1353694862214909954

Tubelis in the media day said he has been working on three and pick and roll defence. Yes, bro, that's what you have to be working on it. Really looking forward to see what Tubelis can bring for LTU in 2024. He's the fastest solution/improvement of our black hole at 5 defensively (along with coming back Sabonis partially and using Sedekerskis at 5 more willingly). This has to be made if we want to move forward and not to be ridiculed by any better team.

 

[Straight forward2]

Tubelis got waved. Interesting where he's heading now. Would love to see him in Rytas, he still has ties with the club and he could show he could foster his development at PRO. In my opinion he got enough of time to develop individually in NCAA. When see how Brazdeikis, Sirvydis, Kulboka spent time in G League and then coming back and learning to play PRO again...It's a waste of time, unless you're some sort of Buzelis, lottery pick. In my opinion, the sooner Tubelis will play truly PRO (in Europe), the better for his career and the NT. I would hate to see him ridding those meaningless G League games and Summer Leagues for 2 years now, just as Sirvydis did. And what he got? Now he's trying establish himself as a player in Eurocup. That's all. If NBA doesn't give you a chance, you go to Europe and play PRO. That would be my choice. For Sixers it didn't make any sense since they got Petrusev. I'm afraid some team will give Tubelis a chance in their G league and then SL and so on...Boring.

 

[Shawshank2]

Tubelis was top 10 player in ncaa according to awards 2022/2023 and he wasnt drafted and is cut after few weeks camp from 2 way contract


We are seeing how weak ncaa become,when all best kids leaves after 1 year and who stays 2-3 years are just average tallents


top 10 ncaa players used to be lottery pick 30 years ago.

Now Nba people sees passport 20-22 old ones putting numbers playing 19 old freshmans verdict---> meh


Real world class tallents simply dont play in ncaa at age of 21-22 old in 2020s



We saw with Sirvydis,Brazdeikis,Kulboka playing in joke/selfish g league,players learns bad habbits and then comes to europe and need 1-2 years to relearn to winning basketball habits.

Tubelis please go home to real basketball,dont waste your time in G league

 

[LuDux2]

Tubelis most likely returns to Rytas and will be lent. Lietkabelis and Neptunas interested. Both teams have two centers and one stretch four, Lietkabelis lost their 3rd big due to injury and Neptunas due to Rytas. Lietkabelis has place in Eurocup

 

[Shawshank2]

If that true its getting ridiculous

Kid from Rytas went to usa played 3 years with 19 old kids and comeback to be loan to average lkl team?

Its seems all that myth of super Rytas kvartet Blazevicius,Tubelis,Sirvydis,Marciulionis is looking very meh in 2023


This 3 years wasnt sucess for that kvartet what was expected from them in 2020

 

[Straight forward2]

Can't wait to see Tubelis balling for Neptunas. Now I definitely turning on Neptunas. I was about to do that anyway to see what's with Sargiunas, but now there's no doubt at all. IMO, Rytas made a good decision allowing him to play big minutes with Neptunas instead of trying to add him to their roster at this stage of the season. Masiulis is looking pretty good this season and Azuolas surely just needs to play a lot in this stage of career. BTW, I think next season will be the last season when he will play in Rytas. After that some-one will buy him and pay Rytas a buy-out, IMO. It may happen even after Neptunas' season. But we have to see him play PRO first. PRO is PRO, it's different than NCAA nevertheless.

 

[Straight forward2]

Not the strongest opponent, but Tubelis with 29eff in 19min. of action in first LKL game (well, realistically his second). Despite 4 blocks and one impressive chase down, he was a bit careless defensively and made some mistakes. He doesn't have perfect motor offensively, at times simply not motivated enough to play it. But when he gives his 100% effort, good things happen. At 4 he lacks lateral quickness, but at 5 he should be decent/solid. Offensively he needs a good chemistry with a point guard to show his best, but even if there's zero chemistry now, Tubelis still managed to be effective offensively. It will be interesting how good he can get offensively. IMO, he should play more like bully ball, but it doesn't seem he's much interesting in adding a lot of muscles. He's pretty tough and athletic naturally, but for EL level he will still need to add muscles. Liked how he slipped between two defender with a sort of hop step to create his own shot. He will need to combine mobility with strength to be effective EL scorer.

 

[Straight forward2]

Here's Tubelis 4 blocks highlights. Active hands. He always looks for deflections and he has good timing with those quick hands. It may turn into personal fouls sometimes, but that's what you want to see. Also he can chase down guards, cause he has great leaping ability out of movement (not so much from two feet from the stance). Positioning wise he will still need to improve defensively, but he has solid IQ and he can get much better at that with time. I'm already eager to see how Tubelis (5) and Sedekerskis (4) frontline will look defensively.

https://twitter.com/BasketNews_lt/status/1726677747202965706

 

[Straight forward2]

Tubelis looks good. Specially when he shoots threes like that. 5/8 in three games. 62,5%. Surely not sustainable, but he shoots with confidence. Rytas will have a strong player next season. And Neptunas really lucky for this season. Once they will realize how to use him the best and some chemistry between players will be established, he can dominate even more. Just feed him, and very little opponents can slow him down in LKL.

It's interesting that 21yo Sedekerskis was 14,1eff guy for Neptunas. 21yo Tubelis is going for +20eff. Now we see that Sedekerskis upside always was high nevertheless, interesting how Tubelis game will transit to EL and what kind of player he will be at 25.

 

[Straight forward2]

Now, if you think that Tubelis is another random LKL player, you are simply lost yet another time. That's your normal condition, bro Unfortunately. Even last year, Tubelis was top 5-7 NCAA player per production, per efficiency if to go deep into the stats. IMO, if current Tubelis would play for say Liekabelis, there's a good chance he would be MVP of LKL. He could easily snatch a role in Zalgiris in EL this season.

Not with Lietkabelis, but with Neptunas it's definitely the case. I doubt things would be much different in Lietkabelis if Tubelis unleashed for +20min. Yet our coaches continues to suck. The last one what I really respect is Kazlauskas. He would never shit his pants to test the all talent we have. They had to take Sedekerskis to Eurobasket 2022 at the very least (realistically he had to be in 2021 OQT). Tubelis had to make 2023 WC and Marciulionis had to be in the camp. I am almost certain than Maksvytis made a mistake for not finding a space for D. Giedraitis in the roster, strictly for defensive reasons, specially since Butkevicius was out. You throw him at Bogdanovic (or Avramovic), and it may be a game changer, or help a lot. I will remind that Kariniauskas scored 0pts and went -15 +/- in the game against Serbia.

Maksvytis can't handle the processes of the NT. He is simply uncapable of working with full talent pool, doesn't even understand it. The fact that he didn't even wanted to test Sirvydis in 2022 also adds to it. He's a decent coach for a club where managers build the team, but he is sucking as NT coach who should be able to absorb all the pieces and to understand how to select the best ones, which young players must be integrated, which vets should be left aside. Maksvytis was plain horrible with this so far. And his famose Griciunases (missed 0/8 FTs in some BB desert, maybe Poland, this week), Cizauskases, Maldunases rave won't ever be surpassed.​

 

[Straight forward2]

Damn, Tubelis single-handedly brought a win for Neptunas in 4th quarter. Was having meh kinda game before 4th quarter and then totally exploded, ending up with 33eff. Grabbing 15 boards in 24 minutes is huge. LKL is barely a competition for him. No NBA, but he's a real deal talent.

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[Straight forward2]

So Tunelis is flat out MVP of LKL with 25.25eff and he made Neptunas a winning team instantly. If you ask me, Rytas fans wish to see Tubelis balling in Vilnius next season is becoming less realistic. With that kind of performance, either Zalgiris or other EL club might want to hook him already.

I would super excited to see Marciulionis and Tubelis re-united in Rytas, but well now I think some-one will buy him out.
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[Dreamcatcher2]

It seems Rytas by loaning Tubelis saved Neptunas' season.

 

[Straight forward2]

Tubelis 3pts shooting so far in LKL/KMT - 45.4% (15/33). Sustainable or not? 10 games already passed.

 

[Straight forward2]

Tubelis 3pts shooting so far in LKL/KMT - 45.4% (15/33). Sustainable or not? 10 games already passed.

Tubelis keeps it up. After 12 games (LKL/KMT), he has 17/37 which is 45,9%. I believe he can be a solid shooter. His mechanics are non standard, but I trust his shot more than Sabonis/JV. Hoever you look, 12 games stretch is a serious stretch and he delivers. And he shoots 3 threes per game which is pretty nice.

Imagine Tubelis at 5 shooting something like 38% with 2-3 shots per game in the NT and his future EL team. That would be money. Opponents would have to step out and respect his shots and this would stretch the floor nicely for his own drives (which he is good at) and for others off course. Tubelis at 5 may be the answer that I expected from pre-injury D-Mo. Before that fatal injury D-Mo was shooting 38% for Rockets and was No.1 with stat in the team. And then his back collapsed.

I believe with Tubelis at 5 we can play ridiculous offense. Not only he can run as deer, but he also can stretch the floor and attack his man face to the basket, as well as he can post up from any position in the court basically. With Sabonis and Valanciunas it is well known that the spacing won't be perfect, specially with JV it has been horrible. But Tubelis may offer new things here.

I really want to see Tubelis/Sedekerskis playing the 5 in the NT for certain stretches, backing up Sabonis. That's the future of basketball and Tubelis may offer us what we need at 5 offensively. Defensively we won't be great at this position anyway. Actually I'm thinking we might be better defensively at 5 with Sedekerskis, than with Sabonis. So we need a coach with balls who wouldn't be afraid to experiment and make NT modern again.