Ąžuolas Tubelis thread

[Dreamcatcher2]

The kid should be more responsible as Straight forward created a topic about him

Seriously, i wouldn't even know about what happened as i usually open only b.news and k.net from all the Lithuanian bb sources and there isn't anything about that there. Would someone post it in "Lithuanian talents" thread? I doubt. What he did is almost nothing. Yes, it's not a smart move, but even if it's stupid, those stupid things are the same part of the world like smart things and not less especially when kids take part.

I have two questions that have nothing to do with Tubelis.
1) Why people react like that every time when smth becomes public?
2) Who are those people who makes it public and why they do it? When f.e. Lavrinovic bros painted swastika figure at the airport i understood why it became public - journalists got to know it and wrote it because it's their job. But in Tubelis case it was his U18 NT teammate, wasn't he? Or f.e. when Motiejunas threw away Rytas's jemper it was someone in his house who recorded it. I mean they are not their enemies, they are more or less their friends so why they record and put it in the net when it's clear it won't be good for them? Why THIS ha spread all over the world like i don't know what.

P.S. One more question. Imagine phones and the internet would exist in Sabonis and Kurtinaitis era and someone would record how they could drink. How people would react? Criticizing them or WOWing?

 

[Mindozas6]

I do believe you are not overestimate this. But since we talking about it, are you really sure Mačiulis, Kalnietis or some other Žalgiris' hardcore oldtimers never went nasty towards Rytas in any symbolic way? I believe we would here a lot of stories.............

And Einikis was drinking and beating his wife and Redikas was stealing and Bros were in jail and K...s with D...s were doing smth sniffy, where to finish it all... Go on, Azuolas, there's plenty room for improvement, SF has a back on you I mean I know this is another youngster you might be obsessed about, but your excuses are funny, mate There's no point to look for it at all and write another novel full of it. Just admit that he did a stupid thing and that's it, no excuses needed. He apologized, hope learned the lesson. Case closed

 

[Dreamcatcher2]

And Einikis was drinking and beating his wife and Redikas was stealing and Bros were in jail and K...s with D...s were doing smth sniffy, where to finish it all... Go on, Azuolas, there's plenty room for improvement, SF has a back on you I mean I know this is another youngster you might be obsessed about, but your excuses are funny, mate There's no point to look for it at all and write another novel full of it. Just admit that he did a stupid thing and that's it, no excuses needed. He apologized, hope learned the lesson. Case closed

I can't undersund why it's needed to pay attention on at all? If he would do smth criminal then it would be a case, but he didn't - just a stupid thing like everybody did/does.

Will someone make it clear about my questions in the post above?

 

[Straight forward2]

I know this is another youngster you might be obsessed about [...]

Obsession or not, this is only the third individual prospect players' thread I created in this forum. First was Valanciunas, second Domas Sabonis, now - Tubelis. Let's see if I'm right and would he pan out into an elite big.

 

[Mindozas6]

I can't undersund why it's needed to pay attention on at all? If he would do smth criminal then it would be a case, but he didn't - just a stupid thing like everybody did/does.

Will someone make it clear about my questions in the post above?

This is the world we're living. Clickbaits, sensations = money. People are hungry of it, that's the human nature, especially of these grey masses. It's been like that for decades. Now we just reached new level of this BS. I really hate how it all goes public nowadays. No privacy at all. Not only what comes to players, but regular people too. I'm so happy that during my teen days when all went wild there were no iphones, instagram and etc. You could drink, make fun, hangout without looking over your shoulder. Now I'm fcking uncomfortable to do this at times as there might be dumb people around and take some photo or video. It's sad thing to see people not being able to have fun without phone, nor in concerts, nor in parties, nor anywhere, they are missing a lot

Obsession or not, this is only the third individual prospect players' thread I created in this forum. First was Valanciunas, second Domas Sabonis, now - Tubelis. Let's see if I'm right and would he pan out into an elite big.

I hope you are right and he will, even tho I've seen him very little. That's a bit sad that he came into attention this way, but I guess this might be good motivational sh*t to prove that he can ball too

 

[Toruko2]

You asked for information. So i give you a short info. Turkey played with LTU in the baltic cup and LTU got totally crushed. Alperen Sengün dominated LTU in the paint. LTU seems to have a big scoring problem after third quarter they scored just 39 points. Tubelis had some nice steals but was not strong enough against to turkish bigs. He definitely needs to get stronger.

https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/LKF/1306701/

 

[Straight forward2]

You asked for information. So i give you a short info. Turkey played with LTU in the baltic cup and LTU got totally crushed. Alperen Sengün dominated LTU in the paint. LTU seems to have a big scoring problem after third quarter they scored just 39 points. Tubelis had some nice steals but was not strong enough against to turkish bigs. He definitely needs to get stronger.

https://www.fibalivestats.com/u/LKF/1306701/

Seems like Tubelis met another very strong prospect ŞENGÜN and had a disappointing game. Maybe a rivalry just as Valanciunas had with Kanter? Both Sengun and Tubelis are 17yo, both are powerforwards (right?). We'll see how thing will develop in official games, as I understood the team is bit tired, rather intense preparation.

 

[Toruko2]

Seems like Tubelis met another very strong prospect ŞENGÜN and had a disappointing game

Yeah but i have to admit that the 2001 2002 generation of turkey is very strong. Sengün played also U17 when he was 15 so he is very matured for his age. Never mind its the tubelis thread and not Sengün.

Maybe a rivalry just as Valanciunas had with Kanter?

I understand your excitement but its too early to talk about that. Both are very skilled but very different player types. Sengün is a nonathletic Center with the best footwork since Kanter. Until now he dominated everyone in one vs. one. Maybe a bit comparable with the shorter version of Vladi Divac.

Both Sengun and Tubelis are 17yo, both are powerforwards (right?)

Well Sengün is both PF/C. Another similarity is both are bad ft shooter.

We'll see how thing will develop in official games, as I understood the team is bit tired, rather intense preparation.

Its not sure if both teams will face one another but its the second prep. game since both teams faced one another in Italy. LTU lost there as well. Except macilionis and Tubelis there is not many remarkable prospects on ltu side. The 2003 generation has 3 interesting guys though. I remember Emils Butkus und two Shooting bigs. U16 Turkey vs LTU U16 will be a nice matchup. I see LTU a bit stronger there unlike U18.

 

[Straight forward2]

Watched how Tubelis looks against older guys. He had 4 blocks and contested tons of shots. Drawn plenty of fouls. He is stronger and more explosive than most of 18yo. Athelticism and explosiveness wise, he's surely an elite prospect, there's no doubt about it. Im pleased with what I saw except shooting, particularly FT. He should work on that as soon as possible.

 

[Dreamcatcher2]

Tubelis's haters on Lithuanian bb. webs have all the right to do their work today. He walked with a pissed face and was poor offensively making free throws extremely bad - 4/12.

 

[Hepcat2]

It's unwritten lockerroom rule lot of clubs has, from NHL to football. It's not like Zalgiris invented it, it came from abroad where players played and where lockerrooms has such feature. But since I'm not too superstitious or smth, I'm not really fan of this idea. It's uncomfortable to walk there afterall ffs

A team rule of the Montréal Canadiens is that players cannot carelessly drop their jerseys on the locker room floor to be picked up and laundered by the staff. Jerseys must be neatly folded and placed on benches(?) with the team logo facing up.

 

[LuDux2]

A team rule of the Montréal Canadiens is that players cannot carelessly drop their jerseys on the locker room floor to be picked up and laundered by the staff. Jerseys must be neatly folded and placed on benches(?) with the team logo facing up.

Do they hunt down Bostonians if they step on their logo without washing their shoes?

 

[Hepcat2]

Retribution would be exacted on the ice I'm sure.

Anyone bold enough to wear a Boston Bruin jersey on rue Ste.-Catherine or rue St.-Laurent (they like those saints in Montréal) is lucky to get away with being subjected to just catcalls.



Another rather engaging custom practiced by the Toronto Maple Leafs and I'm sure many other NHL teams is that after any victory at home, the winning team skates out onto the ice and with sticks upraised salutes the cheering crowd (their paying customers).

 

[Hepcat2]

It's unwritten lockerroom rule lot of clubs has, from NHL to football. It's not like Zalgiris invented it, it came from abroad where players played and where lockerrooms has such feature. But since I'm not too superstitious or smth, I'm not really fan of this idea. It's uncomfortable to walk there afterall ffs

It was widely reported in the Canadian press last September that the visiting British Columbia Lions had during a practice the day before the game danced on the Tiger-Cats logo at Tim Horton's field in Hamilton. The Lions had nipped the Tiger-Cats in OT the previous week in Vancouver. Well the Tiger-Cat coaching staff used that little incident (exaggerated I'm sure) to motivate the team.

Final score of the game:

Hamilton Tiger-Cats 40 British Columbia Lions 10

Most players know to never ever do or say anything to cause press clippings to appear on an opposing team's bulletin board. It's just not smart.

 

[Straight forward2]

Well, now I'm pretty convinced I made a right decision with this thread and finally Tubelis shows how to attract attention with dominant performance and not other ways. 23pts, 20boards, 7 blocks. Actually it had to be 9 blocks, 1 was simply missed stats machines, other waved by refs. His defensive presence is massive, I had no idea he's that good defensively before creating a thread. But he should improve hi finishing skills.

 

[Shawshank2]

5 GM U-18 playing in kinda weak tallent team.

13.4pts+12reb+3.4 bl 51%,but freethrows only 42% in 35 shots

He can be good center ,but nowhere close to star Valanciunas or Domantas level.Has a chance to be second round pick ale Gudaitis if works hard

I wasn't impressed with his offence at all, but defence yes very good at that side.

Marciulionis son will be bust like first Sabonis son

 

[Straight forward2]

5 GM U-18 playing in kinda weak tallent team.

13.4pts+12reb+3.4 bl 51%,but freethrows only 42% in 35 shots

He can be good center ,but nowhere close to star Valanciunas or Domantas level.Has a chance to be second round pick ale Gudaitis if works hard

I wasn't impressed with his offence at all, but defence yes very good at that side.

Marciulionis son will be bust like first Sabonis son

Tubelis is much better scorer than he showed in this tournament, but you have to see a broader picture. He was shooting 60% from 2 in NKL season. He was lighting it up in ANGT this spring with 22pts in 27 minutes among older guys. You say he's nowhere near Valanciunas and Sabonis (it's funny because you thought he will take years to ripe to NT and never was too high on him till he started to ball in Indiana, but even than you needed at least a year to realise he's a beast), but Tubelis is better defender than both of these at 17. Scoring wise he's up to Sabonis, IMO. The tournament is not over for Tubelis yet, but we can see their numbers are more or less similar - 17yo Sabonis at U18 had 14/11.4. Off course, I treat JV and Sabonis as better prospects, but it's much closer than you think.

The comparison with Gudaitis is not a spot on. Tubelis is way more explosive, way better rebounder, quicker, better athlete. If Tubelis won't be in the first round of 2021 drafts I will be very surprised, but with current trends you never know. He needs to polish his three point shoot and FT, if he would do that he would be among top 15 draft prospects, IMO.

And no you're not right about Marciulionis.

 

[Straight forward2]

17yo kids at U18 EC:

JV 19.3 pts, 10,6r, 2,2b
Sabonis 14pts, 11,4r, 1.4a
Tubelis 14,9pts, 12,6r, 3,4b, 2,4a
Sedekerskis 12.6pts, 7r, 2.3a

 

[Dreamcatcher2]

I must say i overrated his shooting. I checked his stats in the season and yes - 3 pointers were less than 30% like in U18. But still the free throws weren't so bad. In NKL he had 63% (41/65). It's not good, but not so bad as well. In some other competitions (less games though) he did even better. However, in U18 he was horrible making 16/41 - only 39%.

 

[Dreamcatcher2]

17yo kids at U18 EC:

JV 19.3 pts, 10,6r, 2,2b
Sabonis 14pts, 11,4r, 1.4a
Tubelis 14,9pts, 12,6r, 3,4b, 2,4a
Sedekerskis 12.6pts, 7r, 2.3a

It's needed to say that this year's U18 both Lithuanian team and the whole competition were really poor in terms of quality.

Also Motiejunas can be added btw - 13.6 pts, 6.2r.