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Ąžuolas Tubelis thread

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I'd certainly be interested in seeing All-Defensive teams selected in both Euroleague and LKL.

:)
 
Dreamcatcher said:
Tautvilas Tubelis isn't a talent, bad not a bad player either. He got schoolarship in NCAA because of his brother (luck is important in life), but he played in Lith. youth u16 team few years ago not because of Azuolas and he even scored more pts in one game than his brother.
http://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u16/2018/player/Tautvilas-Tubelis

There are also not bad brothers twins from Panevezys in Zalgiris system. One of them played in u16 NT in 2019. Didn't perform there a lot, but still.
http://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u16/2019/player/Dominykas-Butka

Also there are brothers twins from Silute and one of them played in EL youth and u18 NT in 2019 and he had quite solid stats.
https://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=009320&seasoncode=JTF418
http://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u18/2019/player/Dovydas-Rimkus
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...4wAnoECA4QBQ&usg=AOvVaw1SM97JwKBN3sgDiLYIdS56
A bad thing is that he plays only in amateur league now.
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He averaged 12 pts (2-3 result in Zalgitis team) in youth EL qualies. But he and his brother are not identical twins it seems, they were born in one day, but don't look like each other.
 
Dreamcatcher said:
Dreamcatcher said:
There are also not bad brothers twins from Panevezys in Zalgiris system. One of them played in u16 NT in 2019. Didn't perform there a lot, but still.

http://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u16/2019/player/Dominykas-Butka
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He averaged 12 pts (2-3 result in Zalgitis team) in youth EL qualies. But he and his brother are not identical twins it seems, they were born in one day, but don't look like each other.
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Is this the same Dominykas Butka who scored 24 points against Anadolu Efes in the Bronze Medal game of the youth tournament today? Looks like the same fellow although two different jersey numbers.

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FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR

Azuolas Tubelis – Arizona

12.2 PTS, 7.1 REB, 1.2 AST, 0.6 STL, 0.6 BLK, 49.8%, 31.0 3P%

Tubelis put up good numbers during his first collegiate season and was clearly the most impactful European freshman. He led the team in rebounding and was the second highest scorer. Despite missing out on PAC-12 Rookie of the Year to Evan Mobley of USC, Tubelis did make the All-Rookie Team. His ability to stretch the floor on offense and growing versatility on defense, makes him an interesting player to watch the next few years. His interior defense and playmaking need some work, but Tubelis seems to have a bright future ahead of him.

Honorable Mentions: Mustapha Amzil, Dayton; Pelle Larsson, Utah

https://eurospects.com/ncaa-standouts-2020-2021/
 
Almost 8min package of Tubelis' season highlights. He showed a little bit of everything in first season. Tommy Lloyd new Wildcats coach. The guy who brought D. Sabonis to Gonzaga. Looking forward to see Tubelis not becoming a fat ass in this long off season :D Let's see how he'll mess around in U19 WC if it will take place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ-4R8acEWI
 
ESPN Jonathan Givony projects Tubelis at 47 in 2022 NBA drafts. I hope he will have pretty convincing second season in the NCAA to establish himself as a first round material, he has to go directly to the NBA after second season, IMO.

2015 - Gudaitis
2016 - Sabonis
2017 -
2018 - Kulboka
2019 - Sirvydis, Brazdeikis
2020 -

and it's almost a lock for upcoming 2 drafts

2021 - Jokubaitis
2022 - Tubelis

I hope for A. Marčiulionis brake out season next year and he may appear on the map as well.

PS: I'm not excluding a chance for Sedekerskis to have his shot in the NBA. At defensive end he has things to offer. Now can he bring more offense in upcoming 2 season? We'll see. But in the NBA it's easier to score, he runs hard in transition and he can make a three even if he's not a shooter. Wouldn't be surprised he's getting some minor offers even this summer and specially another or two solid EL seasons after.
 
Straight forward said:
2015 - Gudaitis
2016 - Sabonis
2017 -
2018 - Kulboka
2019 - Sirvydis, Brazdeikis
2020 -

and it's almost a lock for upcoming 2 drafts

2021 - Jokubaitis
2022 - Tubelis
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All ltu nba first rounders Ilgauskas,Kleiza,Valanciunas,Motiejunas,D.Sabonis made nba career.

From second round only Songaila made decent nba career so far.

all other 2 rounders ltu players or didnt event played in nba or didnt survive nba.Brazdeikis being latest example.Sirvydis going same way.


When next ltu player will be drafted in first round thats what really matters according to history of draft.
 
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Shawshank said:
All ltu nba first rounders Ilgauskas,Kleiza,Valanciunas,Motiejunas,D.Sabonis made nba career.

From second round only Songaila made decent nba career so far.

all other 2 rounders ltu players or didnt event played in nba or didnt survive nba.Brazdeikis being last example.Sirvydis going same way.


When next ltu player will be drafted in first round thats what really matters according to history of draft.
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Well, formally we have 7 Lithuanians with serious NBA careers and 3 of them are second rounders - Sabas, Rooney, Songaila. But, yeah, if you are second rounder your chances are highly questionable. On other hand, Gudaitis was close to NBA after good season with Armani (injury followed), Javtokas could be in the NBA if not injury. I wouldn't close the chapter on Sirvydis, Brazdeikis, Kulboka as of yet, or the same Sedekerskis as of yet (specially in Sirvydis and Sedekerskis cases). Anyway, next player to be in the first round is probably Tubelis or should be pretty close. In his case I think he is set to be a role player in the NBA. It should be different thing than with Sirvydis/Brazdeikis. Tubelis has tools to make instant impact as a role player in the NBA, IMO (be it a small role, but still).

Also this: https://www.sportingnews.com/au/nba...n-nba-draft-history/3ek64gcytsm31f6fcrj1kna6b
 
Sabonis was first rounder in 86 with 24 pick, but I don't name him because draft was totally different world.And he was drafted just because even American saw he was equally going 1 Vs 1 against with 1987 unquestion nr 1 pick Robinson in world cup 86 finals.

In today's world that healthy Sabonis is going top 5 .Back then even if they draft them, there were zero chance you will get him to USA, so no point wasting high pick.

Marciulionis was drafted 127 pick so he was 4 rounder pick by today's standart?

I count drafts from like 1992 that was more less same like today.
 
Shawshank said:
Sabonis was first rounder in 86 with 24 pick, but I don't name him because draft was totally different world.And he was drafted just because even American saw he was equally going 1 Vs 1 against with 1987 unquestion nr 1 pick Robinson in world cup 86 finals.

In today's world that healthy Sabonis is going top 5 .Back then even if they draft them, there were zero chance you will get him to USA, so no point wasting high pick.

Marciulionis was drafted 127 pick so he was 4 rounder pick by today's standart?

I count drafts from like 1992 that was more less same like today.
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In todays world a healthy Arvydas Sabonis would be without a doubt the first overall pick. It was a pity with his injured back back then. If he had gone earlier to the NBA we wouldnt speak about Dirk Nowitzki as the best European player ever.
 
Whether Tubelis reaches the first round or not depends on his on ball creation because it decides if you are a potential top 3 guy of a team or not. In the current situation he is a early - mid second round guy and I think even then he can have a solid career as a bench player.

Jokubaitis is an interesting case. This guy is really good but if he can have an NBA career as white European play maker is still a question mark. I think he can contribute as a play maker offensively. He has a good and fast jump shot from mid range and makes his shots from 3 when he is open, good passer with good court vision but I am not sure if he can be so good offensively to cover his defensive disadvantages. Hell get drafted though.
 
Toruko said:
Whether Tubelis reaches the first round or not depends on his on ball creation because it decides if you are a potential top 3 guy of a team or not. In the current situation he is a early - mid second round guy and I think even then he can have a solid career as a bench player.
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Essentially I doubt Tubelis can be TOP 3 guy for NBA team, but I can surely see him delivering from the bench as a valuable piece and maybe even becoming long term starter as some Amir Johnson, more of hard working guy who can bring a little bit of everything (2 ways as well).

Toruko said:
Jokubaitis is an interesting case. This guy is really good but if he can have an NBA career as white European play maker is still a question mark. I think he can contribute as a play maker offensively. He has a good and fast jump shot from mid range and makes his shots from 3 when he is open, good passer with good court vision but I am not sure if he can be so good offensively to cover his defensive disadvantages. Hell get drafted though.
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Agreed. With current NBA there's surely scenarios how Jokubaitis could be an NBA player, but generally I want him to play for Barsa, Real type of teams and to be one of the leaders in EL contention. In NBA he would suffer because of individual defence, it's a whole different ball game chasing athletic and explosive guards in pretty much all time open court. He would have his advantages at the other side surely, but we need such breed as Jasikevicius, Macijauskas, Siskauskas in EL again. I think NT got a lot of credit because of that because elite EL players are better at FIBA than NBA role players (those need more adjustment to FIBA style). Essentially the best scenario is when the core is based on good EL players complemented with few NBA players. That's what we had in 00s and that was a huge decade for us. Red hot Spain's generation also was of that kind. While some NBA based NTs as France, Slovenia and others struggled.
 
I noticed that 16yo Tubelis and 16yo Murauskas have pretty much similar stats in NKL. Those 2 goes toe to toe thus far in their own age groups. IMO, Tubelis has higher floor, there's no way he's ain't becoming a player, he is already pretty much. While Murauskas has probably lower floor, but higher ceiling. The latter isn't as tough and intimidating physically as Tubelis, but has extremely long hands, certain smoothness, puts the ball on the floor more than Tubelis (well, their positions differ as Tubelis is 5/4 and Murauskas 4/3, but still) and essentially is a little bit more talented and special if he can reach his ceiling. Will be interesting to see if Murauskas will choose NCAA or will go Zalgiris' ways:

Tubelis 19min, 9,6pts, 9,5eff
Murauskas 21min, 10,2pts, 7,8eff

Will be interesting to see how they will be balling together for U19 NT.
 
Already looking forward what kind of leap Tubelis will be able to provide in his second year. He already had very solid first season with 12.2pts, 7.1rbs, the bar is pretty high, but he should be able to work on this. D. Sabonis made a huge leap in his second season, huge. From 9.7pts kinda guy who struggles defensively, he became best player of Gonzaga with 17,6ppg, 11,8rbs, 1,8as. Now Tubelis scoring wise might reach these numbers, IMO, he won't be as dominant rebounder, specially that he will play as a power forward mainly, IMO, and won't be as good of a passer. Nevertheless, there's only positive feedback around him, including new coach Tommy Lloyd, the guy who brought Domas to NCAA from Spain.

Arizona's power forward situation is pretty simple because there really isn't a lot of depth here. The clear option is Azuolas Tubelis and you can make an easy argument that he will make a push to be the best player on the team.

Tubelis was moved into the starting lineup after just six games and closed last season by receiving Pac-12 Freshman of the Week honors twice (Feb. 22, March 1). In Pac-12 play, he ranked third in rebounding (7.75), 15th in scoring (13.7), second in offensive rebounds (2.8) and fourth in defensive rebounds (4.95). He scored in double figures 15 of 20 conference games, including a 31-point effort against USC and a pair of 16-point, 15-rebound games against USC and Washington.

It will be interesting to see how Tommy Lloyd uses Tubelis in this system, but it is safe to say that he will be the same threat as he was last season and likely better. The new coaching staff was able to work with the team for a few weeks and Tubelis was already getting positive reviews. There's questions about a lot of guys on the current roster, but there really aren't any with Tubelis.

https://247sports.com/college/arizo...-arizona-basketball-power-forwards-165151333/
 
Tubelis dominates in the first U19 exhibition game against Latvia (a win 76:64) with 18pts, 9rbs, 3as, 3bl, 2stl, 24eff in 21min. Should be one of whole U19 tournament MVPs, IMO.

Pivorius added 19, Rubstavicius 18.
 
I believe Tubelis might be the MVP of U19 WC 2021. He had very unfortunate second game with 0 efficiency, partly duo to injury, but no-one exploded with 42 efficiency points in this tournament thus far (and he did it against elite opponent Canada abusing athletic opponents). I think at the very given moment he's surely better than Canada's Edey, probably slightly better than France's Wembanyama (could be wrong though as this prodigy might be the best already at 17), Senegal's Badji and USA's Holmgern (surely higher upside prospect, but too soft ATM). Only duo to that complete off game Tubelis stands 3rd in scoring and 4th in efficiency. Here's best plays after group stage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jm8rxjpRx0
 
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