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Atlanta Hawk's Josh Childress considering Olympiakos

Childress was a non factor in the game. Most of his points (he had 11) were when PAO was already in the lead and he posed no threat to the opposing team. His defence was nothing spectacular and he had 2 rebounds. All these in 30+ minutes of playing time.

He also seemed to have to excuse himself to the bathroom during the game. :D
 
KWSN-Men said:
Childress was a non factor in the game. Most of his points (he had 11) were when PAO was already in the lead and he posed no threat to the opposing team. His defence was nothing spectacular and he had 2 rebounds. All these in 30+ minutes of playing time.

He also seemed to have to excuse himself to the bathroom during the game. :D

He played 25:09 mins.
 
I saw the game. I think some of the PAO guards are still out of sync a little bit like Spanoulis (coming off injury) Nicholas (still learning the team), Jasikevicius (adjusting to the rotation changing with Spanoulis), etc.

From what I saw once the PAO guards get in rhythm Olympiacos is totally outmatched. Could be an easy PAO win in the playoffs if Olympiacos doesn't make some adjustments.
 
crazy green said:
it seems like Fotsis told him " hey this is OAKA (or Europe choose what you like) " :D
i agree he was bad.
Man how do you feel that you are winning the battle against BorisD on chilldress case:D ?

Good actually. :D :D :D And I feel good that I am winning battles on a Greek forum with Olympiakos fans because for 2-3 years now I am right all the time. :D

As for BorisD, after all this fanboyism from his side, I blocked him but I can see he is not answering anymore. Maybe the admins have blocked canadians IPs or something? :D

I have to admitt though that winning this battle here is more rewarding, most people on this forum understand basketball, to some extent at least. :)
 
KWSN-Men said:
Good actually. :D :D :D And I feel good that I am winning battles on a Greek forum with Olympiakos fans because for 2-3 years now I am right all the time. :D

As for BorisD, after all this fanboyism from his side, I blocked him but I can see he is not answering anymore. Maybe the admins have blocked canadians IPs or something? :D

I have to admitt though that winning this battle here is more rewarding, most people on this forum understand basketball, to some extent at least. :)

I think he knows basketball but he has the NBA fan disease. EVERYTHING is judged by stats only and of course NBA = millions x greater than Euroleague or FIBA (and the close wins and losses of Team USA never ever occurred). I can't imagine what it is like to deal with such fans all the time.
 
a quatation of Boris the beloved...
I'm sure you remember Anthony Parker? I'll tell you this: Childress is better than Anthony Parker. There may not be a big gap between the two, but J-Chill is right up there. Olympiakos got a good one, and my suspicion is that even as a Panathinaikos fan you will love watching him play.
I'm sure, man, that you should leave basketball alone and get another sports to be so much confident in being wrong about.
 
I have other ones that I like very much. I had to take him of my ignore list for a bit, but here they are. I would quote some Olympiakos fans who were very fast to agree with him and bash me, but what can I say, I have a big heart. :D

BorisD said:
The answers will ultimately be laid out on the basketball court, but there's as much reason (if not more) for me to believe that Diamantidis will spend considerable time watching Childress having a field day when DDD's on the bench in foul trouble as there is for me to believe that Childress is going to struggle mightily against PAO. Right now we don't have the answers, but we will when Panathinaikos and Olympiakos play.

And if Childress has one of his usual extremely efficient games and Olympiakos wins, I will come back to this thread and quote myself and quote you and remind you of what was said - maybe even more than once.

Guess what? Diamantidis had 16 points and lead his team together with Pekovic, Childress had 11 points and went unnoticed. But he gave us that great highlight!

BorisD said:
I'm sorry that you think that because I am somewhat ignorant of the European game at that level of competition, then I must be entirely ignorant. No, my good man, that's not true. I know enough of both Childress' game and the Euroleague's (and Diamontidis') to have a fairly confident opinion that he'll be fairly successful over there. And if (when?) he is, I'll remind you of this.

Where are you? Come back, remind me!!! :D

BorisD said:
And I have every confidence in Childress that his jump shot can improve enough to take that step up so as to elevate his game.

Yes, he is doing great! He is shooting 14.3% from the 3p line in Euroleague and 20% in the A1. And he is clearly afraid to shhot when he has the ball.
 
I suppose I am allowed 2 interrupt all that premature celebration. I was(and still am) sceptical about Childress. Not about his overall value, but about him being the right type of player 4 Olympiacos and European bball in general. Still, we r just in November, we have more than a full semester in the season 2 b played and nobody knows what can happen in the next months. I just advise everybody 2 b cautious when u talk about an unerachiever. The ability exists, nobody forgets 2 play bball, it's the circumstances that make the difference and circumstances sometimes change.
 
T.W.Is.M. said:
I suppose I am allowed 2 interrupt all that premature celebration. I was(and still am) sceptical about Childress. Not about his overall value, but about him being the right type of player 4 Olympiacos and European bball in general. Still, we r just in November, we have more than a full semester in the season 2 b played and nobody knows what can happen in the next months. I just advise everybody 2 b cautious when u talk about an unerachiever. The ability exists, nobody forgets 2 play bball, it's the circumstances that make the difference and circumstances sometimes change.

Adapting to another team and the European basketball system may even take a whole season.

Childress will be at his best in his second and third season, if he decides to stay.
 
Victorious said:
Adapting to another team and the European basketball system may even take a whole season.

Childress will be at his best in his second and third season, if he decides to stay.

And the best may not come at all. As I wrote above, I am rather sceptical and I think it's doubtful that he will b what Olympiacos needs. But we can't reach conclusions so early.
 
T.W.Is.M. said:
I suppose I am allowed 2 interrupt all that premature celebration. I was(and still am) sceptical about Childress. Not about his overall value, but about him being the right type of player 4 Olympiacos and European bball in general. Still, we r just in November, we have more than a full semester in the season 2 b played and nobody knows what can happen in the next months. I just advise everybody 2 b cautious when u talk about an unerachiever. The ability exists, nobody forgets 2 play bball, it's the circumstances that make the difference and circumstances sometimes change.

Sure. But defences will not just open for him, he will not learn to shoot from outside, he will not become a leader in just a couple of months.

Unless you mean that Olympiakos is moving to USA so, sure, this is a big change that can help him. :rolleyes:
 
KWSN-Men said:
Sure. But defences will not just open for him, he will not learn to shoot from outside, he will not become a leader in just a couple of months.

Unless you mean that Olympiakos is moving to USA so, sure, this is a big change that can help him. :rolleyes:

I agree with all that u said. He will not become a leader. I suppose we agree that he is not a bad player at all. He probably doesn't fit 2 european bball well. So his team should adapt a bit 2 him. I know european teams don't do that and I think it's wrong. But when u have a player like this and u pay him so much money, u have 2 find the way 2 take the best out of him. It just needs time and some internal changes 2 b made.
 
T.W.Is.M. said:
I agree with all that u said. He will not become a leader. I suppose we agree that he is not a bad player at all. He probably doesn't fit 2 european bball well. So his team should adapt a bit 2 him. I know european teams don't do that and I think it's wrong. But when u have a player like this and u pay him so much money, u have 2 find the way 2 take the best out of him. It just needs time and some internal changes 2 b made.

You are forgeting 2 things.

1. European basketball. You can say that you will change your style of play to adapt to the players you have. Great idea! Will this style of play be sucessfull against the other teams out there? Will they let you do it? Can all your players adapt to this different style? Against Panathinaikos, when the game got faster, Panathinaikos got the difference.

2. Coach Giannakis. Do you really think he wants to do all that? I am not sure he has the ability, even if he wanted anyway...

For these reasons, I don't think Childress will do something all that good here. He is not a bad player, on the contrary. But he just can't play here, like Saras couldn't really play in the US.
 
1. Yannakis is not the right coach for the players oly has. Gershon could do miracles with this roster.

2. For the amount of money oly spends for Chill they could have gotten Siskauskas...:rolleyes:
 
T.W.Is.M. said:
I suppose I am allowed 2 interrupt all that premature celebration. I was(and still am) sceptical about Childress. Not about his overall value, but about him being the right type of player 4 Olympiacos and European bball in general. Still, we r just in November, we have more than a full semester in the season 2 b played and nobody knows what can happen in the next months. I just advise everybody 2 b cautious when u talk about an unerachiever. The ability exists, nobody forgets 2 play bball, it's the circumstances that make the difference and circumstances sometimes change.

he deserves time ofcourse.i think he will be much better if the people of OLY give him time.but as i have said i dont see him be much better this year.maybe he will help more but not significant.the players that change a lot during a period are few
 
I was watching a recording of the Hawks-Celtics game from ESPN in the US and they reported that Josh Childress is leaving Olympiacos. He talked with the Atlanta Hawks general manager and he will be leaving Olympiacos after this year and going back to the NBA to play with either the Hawks or another NBA team, meaning the Hawks can trade his rights to another NBA team.

They also talked to Childress live on the air over the phone and he made it pretty clear IMHO that he does not like it in Greece.

He then proceeded to bitch and complain about how the fans of Olympiacos are too intense and how he can't go out anywhere because of them and even about how he can't stand it how if his team loses the fans get all mad about it and saying that this didn't matter when he played in the NBA.


The tone he used on the phone to me was very apparent that he does not like it in Athens and that he does not like the Olympiacos fans and that he cannot wait to get out of there. However, strangely enough, he made no mention of the fact that he has been a huge disappointment so far. It was interesting though how ESPN kept showing his NBA stats and his Euroleague stats on the TV screen and how his NBA stats looked noticeably better. It was like they were forcefully trying to make a point of it.
 
Is this guy really worth SO MUCH attention? For me it's really strange when mediocre NBA player comes to Europe and everyone is talking about it... What's so big deal? Last year it was Woods, now it's Childress, next year there will be another mediocre overpaid player :o
 
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