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Argentines in the NBA 2007-08

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Today Manu went off for 46 points (18 in the 4th) in a 112-105 away win over the Cavaliers in a finals rematch. I don't care about those highs usually, it's quite a common thing in the NBA, but it's fitting that Manu just had 20 shots to score 46 (he hit 15 of those), instead of needing the green light for 35-40 attempts.

He was 8-11 for three.
 
robbe said:
Today Manu went off for 46 points (18 in the 4th) in a 112-105 away win over the Cavaliers in a finals rematch. I don't care about those highs usually, it's quite a common thing in the NBA, but it's fitting that Manu just had 20 shots to score 46 (he hit 15 of those), instead of needing the green light for 35-40 attempts.

He was 8-11 for three.
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gees......
 
(Nice avatar, Robbe).

As a Cavs fan, I think Manu is a terrible, selfish player. As a Manu fan, I think Manu is the best athlete and the most fun player to watch in the game. :D
Manu is a Monster -- by Kelly Dwyer, February 14, 2008, Yahoo! Sports

With his team struggling to score (18 points after just one quarter) and the Cavs feasting off of San Antonio's long misses, Manu Ginobili absolutely took things over in the second quarter of this one.

Scoring 13 in the quarter, Manu gave the Spurs a fighting chance (fightin', I say, because the kid's got moxie) heading into the second half, and his dominant touch allowed the Spurs to score 94 points in the final three frames and pull out the win.

Ginobili was incredible, snaking his way through double-teams, giving the ball up early only to get it back in time to score, directing traffic and nailing jumper after tough jumper. Forty-six points on only 20 shots, eight assists, five rebounds, three steals and just ONE turnover in 40 minutes of play for Ginobili on Wednesday.

(But, by all means, enjoy Brandon Roy on Sunday night.)

LeBron James wasn't nearly as good, but did offer an outstanding 39 points, nine assists, six boards and three turnovers. I'm not going to drag out the usual, "he didn't have much help," bit because there wasn't much the Cavs could do with Ginobili last night. LBJ was awesome, the Cavs played a great game, but they didn't have a chance with Manu acting as he did.

Against single-coverage, he'd score. When Cleveland trapped him and forced Manu to give up the ball as he crossed half court, he'd dart his way around a half-court set, watch as the Spurs made a few passes, duck into the open spots, take the pass and score. Brilliant basketball from a monster in his prime.
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It is true that Manu is so fun to watch. He's one of the players who exudes passion from his poors.

Drives against former teammate Devin Brown
Thinking that he needs to buy a new razor
Great looking picture
Manu at his best
 
46 pts....4TH Quarter with 18 gamewinner pts ...Cle was leading by 5 at the beginning of 4th..
 
Manu is excellent. He can do it all. If they ask him to score, he will do that. But he can also average 11PPG a regular season and still be amazing. He's clutch. He's great on both ends of the floor. He's a competitor. And in my opinion, he is, if something like that exists, the ultimate basketball player because he unifies great individual strength and team work. He has the ability to make every possible shot, but still he doesn't force things. He's been the best on every level he's played: European, international or NBA stage. And yes, he's great to watch.

I am following some selected NBA teams here and then, namely Spurs, Jazz, Rockets (they are on TV all the time here in China) and Raptors.

Here's my opinion on how the Argentinians are doing.

Ginobili: Well, not much to be added here. He's starting with Parker out injured, and he's running a lot of high screen and rolls with either Duncan or Oberto setting the screen. He's doing great passing from there, and his scoring has been off the charts lately. He's been automatic from the outside. As I said, not much to write here. We all know what a player he is, and he's schooling everybody right now. He's the dominating player on the Spurs at the moment, with Duncan rather passive. But that can change. They'll both do what's necessary.

Scola: Has finally found his role. Things are different, because Houston has no creativity whatsoever at the point guard position, and McGrady is a solid passer, but not great. So the easy buckets he's getting out of Prigioni's great passing and his own great movement off the pick and roll are simply not there. His biggest quality not being used. But he's found his niche. Yao's presence alone does create space for others and Scola has a great a eye for these spots, and his teammates are starting to aknowledge that and find him with their passes. In addition to that, another thing Scola is doing more and more is the little things that don't occur in boxscores, such as tipping back missed shots to his teammates and drawing charges. What is still there and will never fade of course is that ability to finish at the rim. He's great at spinning in, and throwing all sorts of fakes to get the defender into the air. And his hands still are damn soft. He's very important right now for the Rockets.

Oberto: Probably the player I am most impressed with. He's doing nothing we didn't already know, but hell, I never thought he'd be such a fantastic offensive rebounder in this league of athletic freaks. He's just getting his hand on everything there. That doesn't mean it does show up on the statsheet. He's tipping it off the opponent out of bounds, he getting to all the loose balls, he's securing them possession after possession after possession. And then he's of course a fantastic passer who'll play numerous extra passes to Tim Duncan for the easy basket, when everybody's expecting him to shoot himself. His defence is gritty and valuable as usual. Getting his hands onto everything, drawing charges - the whole package. And his movement off the screen and roll with Ginobili is excellent of course.

Delfino: I must admit that I don't like him too much. He can be spectacular and exciting to watch, and he's not a bad defender, but his play can be erratic at times. He' s just not disciplined. Shot selection is not good, as he can be seen taking wild threes again and again. And he sometimes takes ill-advised, flashy-looking close range shots that look spectacular when they fall, but have low chances of doing so. He sure brings energy off the bench for the Raptors, no doubt. But he's not anywhere in the class of the three aforementioned. But then again, this is nothing we didn't already know, as he's never been big of a factor on the national team. I don't see this burning desire to win on his face. The little things, the charges taken, the dirty little tricks that drive the opponent wild. The big baskets. He's someone who looks good and will make the crowd happy with a nice little dipsy-doo and the finger roll, and then he'll be on TV for a little L'Oreal spot. This is exaggeration of course, but the difference to the other trio is just immense.
 
Manu dropped 44 points on 13/18 (7/9 3PT) shooting on the Timberwolves this night. Including the game winning jumper with 6 seconds left.

We usually only see Ginobili go off like this in the playoffs. But it doesn't surprise me really, as - with the league being totally out of balance - the Spurs have only four games on the 9th spot in the West. They need every win right now. The Spurs are a team that usually goes through the motions in the regular season only to turn it up two steps in the playoffs. It's a dangerous situation.

Luis Scola meanwhile dropped another double double on the Heat for the Rockets' 10th straight win.
 
Manu had a another great night, leading the Spurs with 30 pts + 12 assists + 6 rebs in a win over the Hornets.
 
It was a complete shame that Manu wasnt on the all-star, he deserved it more than many that actually were there. Right now, he's carrying on his shoulders the actual champion of the NBA.
 
Neozyrus said:
It was a complete shame that Manu wasnt on the all-star, he deserved it more than many that actually were there.
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Popovich and Horry would agree with you, Zyrus.
Ginobili’s 30 points lead Spurs to 98-89 win over Hornets -- February 23, 2008, AP, by Elizabeth White

Manu Ginobili may not have made the All-Star roster this year, but his coach sure thinks he’s playing like one.

Ginobili scored 30 points and had a career-high 12 assists Saturday against the New Orleans Hornets to help the Spurs withstand a late run for a 98-89 victory and their fifth straight win.

“Obviously, Manu has been on fire here for quite a while playing All-Star basketball,” Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said.

Including Saturday’s outburst, Ginobili has averaged 34.4 points in his last five games.

“Manu is one of the great players in the game,” veteran Robert Horry said. “He definitely better be player of the month in my eyes. He’s been playing fantastic. Without him, I think we would be losing five or six games in a row.”

....Ginobili’s 14 third-quarter points, including three 3s, and a dunk that showed the aging Horry can still jump, put the Spurs up by as many as 17 late in the period before the Hornets started their burst....
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Ginobili was 4-8 from three-point land too.

Classic Ginobili
...or is this classic Ginobili?
The Headless Horsemen
Mid-Air Pass

The new kid in class
 
Ginobili must win the best 6th man award with hands down...

In case you haven't noticed, many (especially non-Americans) players didn't make it to the All starts Game although they deserved it... I guess there is racism even in this aspect.
 
ArkadiosV2 said:
Ginobili must win the best 6th man award with hands down...
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Without a doubt.

Delfino had 23 points and 5 rebounds, shooting 6-7 3-pointers and 7-9 overall in a victory over Indiana.
Toronto 102, Indiana 98 -- by CLIFF BRUNT, AP, Feb 25, 2008

Indiana Pacers coach Jim O’Brien thinks the Toronto Raptors might have the best set of backups in the NBA.

Toronto’s reserves scored 55 points, led by Carlos Delfino’s 23, in a 102-98 win Monday night. T.J Ford had 16 points and seven assists in 26 minutes, the most he’s played since missing 24 games with an arm stinger.

“It’s hard for anybody in the NBA to match bench for bench,” O’Brien said. “That’s a formidable group, and it speaks to their depth that those players come off the bench.”

Delfino, who was 6-for-7 on 3-pointers, and Ford gave Chris Bosh all the help he needed. Bosh had 24 points and 10 rebounds.

...“With our guys getting healthy, I think we now have a second-team punch with T.J. getting into shape and into rhythm,” Delfino said. “It opens things up for us offensively, and it sure can change our game.”

...The Pacers said Delfino was the difference.

“He didn’t miss,” Granger said. “We let him get open a few too many times. Anybody in the NBA can make those shots when you’re that far open. He put the dagger in us.”

...Bosh said the performance by Delfino wasn’t surprising. Delfino ranks in the top 20 in the league in 3-point percentage.

“When he gets hot, he’s going to let it go,” Bosh said. “He’s done a great job all year. He also does a great job on the defensive end. He also got to the free-throw line again tonight. He just helped us out a lot.”
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A good shooter
A good shooter in action
A good defender
 
Ginóbili: 30 pts + 4 rebs + 4 assists + 3 steals as the Spurs beat the Bucks.
 
rikhardur said:
Ginóbili: 30 pts + 4 rebs + 4 assists + 3 steals as the Spurs beat the Bucks.
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And, I just read that he had the last bucket in this two-point game. I really wish I could watch more San Antonio games. For me, Ginobili is the funnest player in the game. He's a delight to watch and has been wonderful for the league since he joined.
 
18 points and 14 rebounds for Luis in a victoy over Denver. Scola is rolling, as are the Yao-less Rockets. 15 in a row.
 
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