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Anadolu Efes 2020/21

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Worrax said:
I will agree with you, at least we have reason (last season) to hope... and yes, i was talking about pivotal trouble second year in a row. If something happens with Dunston ect... last year Pleiss stepped well but now also suffering with injuries. On the other hand Dunston is already 35 if i'm not wrong, time to prepare somebody else. It's a known case 2-3 years and Ataman will get it. (Actually i insist on adding a 4 and a half style guy, can play 4 and 5, and keep Dunston and Şanlı.)
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Efes played without Dunston most of the last season and still they were by far the best team in EL. So Sanli is quite capable to take the bigger role and Dunston's spot. He was center with maybe the best statistics per minute last season. the most underrated player in Turkey
 
janketa said:
Efes played without Dunston most of the last season and still they were by far the best team in EL. So Sanli is quite capable to take the bigger role and Dunston's spot. He was center with maybe the best statistics per minute last season. the most underrated player in Turkey
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Agree with you... Dunston is the most important part of Efes's bigs but because of unluckily injuries kept him away from team last (and this) season and Pleiss-Şanlı stepped well enough succesfully. But now no Pleiss and (especially only with 2 bigs; Dunston and Şanlı) it won't be enough. Not counting Singleton or Moerman. Of course in my opinion Şanlı is good enough back up for Dunston, even sometimes could be 1st choice... For deeper big rotation i think we need 1 more player. And (maybe i'm wrong) but i insist he should be a #5, can also play #4. I'm not counting on Pleiss next season even though i like his personality and performance. His knee injury is problematic and not carrying his body anymore.
 
Anybody saw Dzanan Musa? Is he alive? By the way; my inner voice telling me that Ataman have an eye on Kyle Gregory Wiltjer of Turk Telekom... Don't know why, just a feeling after Efes' Telekom game.
 
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Efes won it's weak opponent Fethiye in TBL; 101-85. Ataman used his bench players and seems Musa also performed well... here are the numbers:

Tuncer: 31 min; 29 pts, 1 reb, 4 ast.
Pleiss: 31 min; 18 pts, 14 reb, 3 ast.
Saybir: 25 min; 17 pts, 5 reb.
Musa: 24 min; 10 pts, 8 reb, 9 ast.
Balbay: 23 min; 3 pts, 3 reb, 8 ast.
Geçim: 21 min; 13 pts, 3 reb, 5 ast.
Gazi: 21 min; 2 pts, 1 reb, 2 ast.
Singleton: 9 min; 5 pts, 1 ast.
Sezgün: 7 min; 2 pts.
Şanlı: 9 min; 2 pts.
 
So on the verge of the season its time to debate about the new seasons requirements. I am writing this under following pre assumptions:

Micic is gone. Hell leave after this season and its safe. His role should be filled by Beaubois and Gazi. Tuncer is a talented play maker but he is not willing to develop or to be more precise he is a lazy bitch.

Larkin is happy in Istanbul and I dont think the NBA is gonna give him the role he wants to fill out. He should stay.

Simon is not a guy who relies much on speed, strength or athleticism so I see him playing one more year before taking a position in Efes management

Singleton is the biggest problem. A lazy bitch who plays as much as it needs to survive. The next season will be his last, so he has to play though. Would send him away if I could.

Old man Dunston has two more years with Efes. Maybe he cant fill out the gaps in the defense like he did some years ago but he found his rhythm back in the playoffs. A center is a must and since Pleiß strengths and weaknesses are similar to Sanli there is no need for him imo. A guy like Reynolds should be targeted here or better a guy who can play 4/5 and stretch the floor.

Moerman is the only guy who is a plus rebounder. His shots werent falling this season but Efes will extend his contract. He has a good offensive skill set with shooting + a running floater very smooth but I would be happy if they dont extend with him.

Lets come to the Turks: Tolga Gecim showed in these last two years it is not enough. He must go and find his pace again. I lost my trust in him.

The most interesting point is Saybirs future though. I was and still am one of the biggest fans of Saybir but I have to admit he had a very underwhelming season. He is 21 year old and the Efes management should decide if keep or laon him. If he stays they must give him a fair chance to show himself another season without playing would endanger his career.

I hope Efes wins the EL this time to finish the journey and start a rebuild with taking some risks using young guns.
 
Saying that Saybir maybe, just maybe, owns hint of the talent probably shows that someone who said that is basketball ignorant.

But statement that you are fun of Saybir is serious mental problem.
 
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janketa said:
Saying that Saybir maybe, just maybe, owns hint of the talent probably shows that someone who said that is basketball ignorant.

But statement that you are fun of Saybir is serious mental problem.
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Maybe I gave you the impression of being interested in your opinion or you have been trying to get my attention but I am neither interested in your Opinion that you write down with your pathetic and decrepit English nor in your not existent Basketball knowledge.

Dont get me wrong you can write down anything you want but you should do it in a way without getting personally. You may be used to discus in Tarlabasi where the street gave formed your personality but I am not.
 
Toruko said:
Maybe I gave you the impression of being interested in your opinion or you have been trying to get my attention but I am neither interested in your Opinion that you write down with your pathetic and decrepit English nor in your not existent Basketball knowledge.

Dont get me wrong you can write down anything you want but you should do it in a way without getting personally. You may be used to discus in Tarlabasi where the street gave formed your personality but I am not.
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First of all I am not interested of Teletubbies opinion, but it's funny look on their reaction when you poke them.

Of course you are basketball ignorant and troll but I am ok with that. I respect every opinion, even if it's poor and unmature like yours. But regarding you crossed some red lines jumping in comunication between me and Worax(who is great guy btw) it's priceless for me to follow and comment every stupid statement you write( from now on) just to show your picture in mirror, how on duty troll looks like.

As you admited your parents failed with you, it's easy to recognize some complexes but we will work on that, take it easy
 
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Guys...
Of course sorry for disturbing, but...
We don't need to love eachother cause we won't start emotional or sexual relationship with eachother, we just talk basketball... and when anyone says his thoughts we don't need to agree or disagree with eachother, so... please let's go back to talk basketball. Any analysis or opinion can change our perspective. Any information could be valuable. Thank you and sorry for my poor English.
 
As i remember Efes made 2,5 years contract with Dzanan Musa, but i don't see him around. He's not playing in EL because of rules or because of Ataman?
 
I had some hopes about Musa, but his shooting is childish and decisions making on retard level
 
Worrax said:
Still don't understand why Efes made this move. Let's wait and see...
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Though Ataman's game decisions and overall basketball knowledge is at least doubtful, I have to say that market moves and transfers are mostly smart and in right direction(except Moerman)

But this move is realy strange and weird, like you said let's see what happen
 
Worrax said:
Still don't understand why Efes made this move. Let's wait and see...
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Its an investition for the future. Ataman said its an investition for next season, cheap and has potential. What is it that you cant understand?
 
@janketa;
Thank you.

@Toruko;
Just don't understand why he's not in the roster and having no time in EL. At least he's coming from an active league, if i'm not wrong. I didn't know that Ataman said he's a next season investition. Thanks...
 
Saying that Musa has potential is such nonsence like statement that earth is flat.

One ond only mistake I made in this forum is about him because I had some hopes aftrer watching some highlights. Guy is dumb as night(after watching his games in BSL)

Not next season but next 100 seasons he will just be what he is, dumb bosnian without brain and willingness for imrovement.

Anyone who writes here that he is investition for the future is even dumber then him.
 
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