All time NT

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Top NT scorers in post-war Eurobasket final tournaments after group stage

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1 [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 132"] Karnisovas A [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 25, align: right"]492[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Jasikevicius S [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]405[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Siskauskas R [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]347[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Kalnietis M [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]322[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Einikis G [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]305[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Stombergas S [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]300[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Sabonis A [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]280[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Lavrinovic K [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]274[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Kleiza L [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]267[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Songaila D [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]247[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Jasaitis S [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]242[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Kaukenas R [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]240[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Valanciunas J [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]227[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Maciulis J [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]216[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Javtokas R [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]204[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Jankunas P [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]165[/TD]

 

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Top NT scorers in post-war Eurobasket final tournaments after group stage

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]1 [/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 132"] Karnisovas A [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 25, align: right"]492[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Jasikevicius S [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]405[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Siskauskas R [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]347[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Kalnietis M [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]322[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Einikis G [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]305[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Stombergas S [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]300[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Sabonis A [/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]280[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Lavrinovic K [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]274[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Kleiza L [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]267[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Songaila D [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]247[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Jasaitis S [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]242[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Kaukenas R [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]240[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Valanciunas J [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]227[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Maciulis J [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]216[/TD]

[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Javtokas R [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]204[/TD]

[TD="class: xl68, align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"] Jankunas P [/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]165[/TD]

Karnisovas only played in 3 euro championships (1995-1997-1999).He scored 492 in 3 eurochamps? thats alot.Jasikevicius let say played in 6 euro champs and still scored less

 

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Karnisovas only played in 3 euro championships (1995-1997-1999).He scored 492 in 3 eurochamps? thats alot.Jasikevicius let say played in 6 euro champs and still scored less

He played in 1. long tournaments, 9 games each + 2. megastar era, then leaders averaged ~20 ppg (5 best single EC ppg averages are from 95 and 97 ECs)

 

[Straight forward2]

Kalnietis rises to 3rd place with 372, JV rises to 7th spot, passing Sabas with 293.

Off course if Sabas, Marciulionis, Karnisovas, Macijauskas played more Eurobasket tournaments they all would be at the top.

PS: At this point, I'm thinking Mindozas (and some others) will agree Kalnietis deserves to be a back-up for Šaras in all time NT. Kalnietis ended the tournament with 10,6 ppg, 7,8 assists, 3 rebounds. Not too shabby at all. Compared to 2013, his shooting is only a little bit worse and he increased TOs from 2,5 to 3,7 per game, but knowing that he increased assists number it's understandable. He beat the record of Eurobasket with 70 assists, his HOB was all time NT highest in the group stage (passing Šaras in 2003). Tu sup up, he basically overachieved coming to the NT after long rehab. Too bad the rotation was crappy and he was dead walking in the finals. Let's hope Kalnietis will have the best tournament in his career next summer!

 

[Svajunas2]

Kalnietis rises to 3rd place with 372, JV rises to 7th spot, passing Sabas with 293.

Off course if Sabas, Marciulionis, Karnisovas, Macijauskas played more Eurobasket tournaments they all would be at the top.

PS: At this point, I'm thinking Mindozas (and some others) will agree Kalnietis deserves to be a back-up for Šaras in all time NT. Kalnietis ended the tournament with 10,6 ppg, 7,8 assists, 3 rebounds. Not too shabby at all. Compared to 2013, his shooting is only a little bit worse and he increased TOs from 2,5 to 3,7 per game, but knowing that he increased assists number it's understandable. He beat the record of Eurobasket with 70 assists, his HOB was all time NT highest in the group stage (passing Šaras in 2003). Tu sup up, he basically overachieved coming to the NT after long rehab. Too bad the rotation was crappy and he was dead walking in the finals. Let's hope Kalnietis will have the best tournament in his career next summer!

I felt like Kazlauskas should have used Lekavicius a tiny bit more. He was not damaging the game and Kalnietis was walking zombie at the end of tournament. Still he performed better then I expected and helped Lithuania get silver.

 

[Mindozas6]

Kalnietis rises to 3rd place with 372, JV rises to 7th spot, passing Sabas with 293.

Off course if Sabas, Marciulionis, Karnisovas, Macijauskas played more Eurobasket tournaments they all would be at the top.

PS: At this point, I'm thinking Mindozas (and some others) will agree Kalnietis deserves to be a back-up for Šaras in all time NT.

Nah, not so fast Kalnietis surpassed Saras record from 2003. Does it means he had better tournament than Saras back then? Not even close. Another thing, what I was surprised about that in this Eurobasket assists were counted closer to NBA standarts than it was f.e. in EL or previous tournaments. I've counted those and had closer look, cause was participating in EB manager I don't want to take anything away from Mantas, but he also benefited cause of that like all the PGs and players overall. Its also is quite visable if compare stats columns from previous Eurobaskets and this one, both players and teams. The same Kalnietis while having way better tournament in 2013 had only 5apg, now 7.8apg. 2 years ago Spain was leading with 17.1apg, now 14!!! teams had better result.
Overall speaking, stats are stats, but Kalnietis performance this year, even knowing all the circumstances (injuries), didn't put him above Chomicius in my book. I still rate Valdemaras as better player overall, tho none of them made it to my all-time NT what so ever

 

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Nah, not so fast Kalnietis surpassed Saras record from 2003. Does it means he had better tournament than Saras back then? Not even close. Another thing, what I was surprised about that in this Eurobasket assists were counted closer to NBA standarts than it was f.e. in EL or previous tournaments. I've counted those and had closer look, cause was participating in EB manager I don't want to take anything away from Mantas, but he also benefited cause of that like all the PGs and players overall. Its also is quite visable if compare stats columns from previous Eurobaskets and this one, both players and teams. The same Kalnietis while having way better tournament in 2013 had only 5apg, now 7.8apg. 2 years ago Spain was leading with 17.1apg, now 14!!! teams had better result.
Overall speaking, stats are stats, but Kalnietis performance this year, even knowing all the circumstances (injuries), didn't put him above Chomicius in my book. I still rate Valdemaras as better player overall, tho none of them made it to my all-time NT what so ever

Interesting. I didn't notice that. Didn't really care too much as all the games where freakin' thrillers. Outside Kalnietis, Satoransky, Teodosic no-one was putting some massive assists numbers (5-6 assists is normal even for previous FIBA rules). I thought Mantas is much more of a passing PG compared him to 2013 when he was taking tons of jumpers and going to the basket for a lay ups. But if you say so - probably you mean that the assists counts even if the receiver dribbles the ball after the pass and sort of things. Well, I'm not against that system - it will help to compare NBA players performances to FIBA tournaments. As for Chomicius, well we talk about the impact since 1992, we have to agree, not on the level of a player (otherwise Ilgauskas would be all time NT player, or even Paulauskas, Lubinas), so Chomicius simply can't make it if we look this way.

 

[Mindozas6]

Interesting. I didn't notice that. Didn't really care too much as all the games where freakin' thrillers. Outside Kalnietis, Satoransky, Teodosic no-one was putting some massive assists numbers (5-6 assists is normal even for previous FIBA rules). I thought Mantas is much more of a passing PG compared him to 2013 when he was taking tons of jumpers and going to the basket for a lay ups. But if you say so - probably you mean that the assists counts even if the receiver dribbles the ball after the ball and sort of things. Well, I'm not against that system - it will help to compare NBA players performances to FIBA tournaments. As for Chomicius, well we talk about the impact since 1992, we have to agree, not on the level of a player (otherwise Ilgauskas would be all time NT player, or even Paulauskas, Lubinas), so Chomicius simply can't make it if we look this way.

Ilgauskas is actually on my list if you would look at my all-time NT on first page Didn't put the ones like Paulauskas or Lubinas cause it was way before 1992 and couldn't measure how good they were in comparison with last 25 years. With Chomicius it's way easier and I'm counting not only his achievements with NT, but how good overall he was, I liked him more than Kalnietis and I think he was better, we also had discussion about it, so don't want to repeat myself
Regarding assists, yes, I mean even after receivers dribbled the ball, it still counted as assists in most of the cases I noticed, atleast regarding the players I followed and had in my manager team

 

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EC+OG+WC

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 155"]Karnisovas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 64, align: right"]820[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jasikevicius S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]816[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kleiza L[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]707[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Stombergas S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]667[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Sabonis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]606[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Siskauskas R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]588[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Songaila D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]563[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Einikis G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]556[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kalnietis M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]547[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Lavrinovic K[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]474[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Maciulis J[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]467[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Valanciunas J[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]438[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Marciulionis S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]434[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lavrinovic D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]422[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Javtokas R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]413[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jasaitis S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]409[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kaukenas R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]370[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jankunas P[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]357[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Macijauskas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]344[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Pocius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]341[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Zukauskas E[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]318[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kurtinaitis R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]309[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Seibutis R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]300[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lukminas D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]224[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Zukauskas M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]218[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Adomaitis D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]201[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Delininkaitis T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]193[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Kuzminskas M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]136[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Praskevicius V[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]132[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Timinskas M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]123[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Masiulis T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]123[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Motiejunas D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]120[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Petravicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]117[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Gustas G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]90[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]35[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lukauskis M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]76[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]35[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Juškevičius A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]74[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Chomicius V[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]73[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Krapikas G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]63[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]39[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Maskoliunas D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]58[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]40[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kavaliauskas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]49[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]40[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Gecevicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]46[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]42[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Ginevicius V[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]45[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]42
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]43[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Marciulionis K[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]40[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Milaknis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]36[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]43
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]45[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jurkunas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]27[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]43
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]45[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Klimavicius T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]27[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]45
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jomantas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]25[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]46
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]48[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Slanina D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]24[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]48
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jovaisa S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]22[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]48
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Giedraitis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]22[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]50
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Visockas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]21[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]50
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Salenga D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]21[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]52
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Pacesas T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]19[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]53
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Vasiliauskas Š[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]18[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]54
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Vaisvila R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]15[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]55
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]56[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Mazutis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]12[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]56[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Sabonis D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]12[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]56
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Markevicius G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]11[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]57
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]59[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Brazdauskis R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]59[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Gailius D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]58
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Andriuskevicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]58
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Pazdrazdis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]60
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Sestokas K[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]60
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Serapinas S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]65[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lekavicius L[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]5[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]62
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Dimavicius D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]62
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Prekevicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]64
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]68[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Silinskis D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]

 

[Straight forward2]

If we are still talking about 1992 and onwards (like in the beginning of the thread), then maybe yes, it might be Maciulis...or M.Zukauskas, only then Jasaitis

I realised we have one really underrated payer in this thread. It's Timinskas. It's just that he had very inadequate NT career. But generally he was at the level of Maciulis/Zukauskas/Jasaitis at 3 spot and it would be hard to judge who's better. Speaking about NT impact now it's surely Karnisovas/Siskauskas/Stombergas/Maciulis and only than Jasaitis/Zukauskas.

 

[Mindozas6]

I realised we have one really underrated payer in this thread. It's Timinskas. It's just that he had very inadequate NT career. But generally he was at the level of Maciulis/Zukauskas/Jasaitis at 3 spot and it would be hard to judge who's better. Speaking about NT impact now it's surely Karnisovas/Siskauskas/Stombergas/Maciulis and only than Jasaitis/Zukauskas.

Timinskas on his own forced us to underrate him He could easily play for NT way more years, he was really good in Sidney, we was one of couple bright things in 2001, where he and Siska tried to carry NT on their shoulders, but after that 2001 fiasco, he somehow lost interest and probably faith in NT. Well, before 2003 Eurobasket lot of people were kinda sceptical and cautious about our chances.
Overall, IMO he was even better than those 3 you mentioned. He had toughness of Maciulis, defense of Zukauskas, offensivelly maybe wasn't that great shooter like Jasaitis, but he was more versatile, explosive, also decent rebounder for a wing player. Timinskas in his peak would most likely be a starter in current NT, but probably as SG, he could play there too, at times he could even be a point forward

 

[Hepcat2]

EC+OG+WC

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67, width: 155"]Karnisovas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, width: 64, align: right"]820[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jasikevicius S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]816[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kleiza L[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]707[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Stombergas S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]667[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Sabonis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]606[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Siskauskas R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]588[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Songaila D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]563[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Einikis G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]556[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kalnietis M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]547[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Lavrinovic K[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]474[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Maciulis J[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]467[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Valanciunas J[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]438[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Marciulionis S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]434[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lavrinovic D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]422[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Javtokas R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]413[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jasaitis S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]409[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kaukenas R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]370[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jankunas P[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]357[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Macijauskas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]344[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]20[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Pocius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]341[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Zukauskas E[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]318[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]22[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kurtinaitis R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]309[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]23[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Seibutis R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]300[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]24[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lukminas D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]224[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]25[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Zukauskas M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]218[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]26[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Adomaitis D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]201[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]27[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Delininkaitis T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]193[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: xl68"]Kuzminskas M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]136[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]28[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Praskevicius V[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]132[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Timinskas M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]123[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Masiulis T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]123[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]31[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Motiejunas D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]120[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]32[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Petravicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]117[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]33[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Gustas G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]90[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]34[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]35[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lukauskis M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]76[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]35[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Juškevičius A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]74[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]36[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Chomicius V[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]73[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]37[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Krapikas G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]63[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]38[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]39[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Maskoliunas D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]58[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]40[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Kavaliauskas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]49[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]40[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Gecevicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]46[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]41[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]42[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Ginevicius V[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]45[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]42
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]43[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Marciulionis K[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]40[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]44[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Milaknis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]36[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]43
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]45[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jurkunas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]27[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]43
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]45[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Klimavicius T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]27[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]45
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]47[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jomantas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]25[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]46
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]48[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Slanina D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]24[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]48
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Jovaisa S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]22[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]48
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]49[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Giedraitis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]22[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]50
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Visockas A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]21[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]50
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]51[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Salenga D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]21[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]52
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]53[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Pacesas T[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]19[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]53
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]54[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Vasiliauskas Š[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]18[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]54
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]55[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Vaisvila R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]15[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]55
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]56[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Mazutis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]12[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]56[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Sabonis D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]12[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]56
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]58[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Markevicius G[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]11[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]57
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]59[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Brazdauskis R[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]59[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Gailius D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]8[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]58
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Andriuskevicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]58
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]61[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Pazdrazdis A[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]7[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]60
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Sestokas K[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]60
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]63[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Serapinas S[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]6[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]65[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Lekavicius L[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]5[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]62
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Dimavicius D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]62
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]66[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Prekevicius M[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]64
[/TD]
[TD="class: xl66, align: right"]68[/TD]
[TD="class: xl67"]Silinskis D[/TD]
[TD="class: xl65, align: right"]2[/TD]

Good input!

 

[auris12]

What is OG ?
And if it is you who made this table,can you included non scorers ? And games played ?
I meant Ludux

 

[LuDux2]

What is OG ?

Olympic games

 

[LuDux2]

What is OG ?
And if it is you who made this table,can you included non scorers ? And games played ?
I meant Ludux

http://s000.tinyupload.com/download.php?file_id=49770642064125827938&t=4977064206412582793850676

 

[Svajunas2]

http://s000.tinyupload.com/download.php?file_id=49770642064125827938&t=4977064206412582793850676

thats a virus.

 

[LuDux2]

thats a virus.

Not according to Avast and Trendmicro

 

[auris12]

Olympic games

I feel stupid. But i always was bad at remembering/guessing acronyms .
CSKA - central soviet club army?
http://www.cskabasket.com/history/?lang=en
Actually even now there is no explanation on that official CSKA webpage of what exactly them letters stands for.

 

[auris12]

thats a virus.

Looks like.

 

[Mindozas6]

I feel stupid. But i always was bad at remembering/guessing acronyms .
CSKA - central soviet club army?
http://www.cskabasket.com/history/?lang=en
Actually even now there is no explanation on that official CSKA webpage of what exactly them letters stands for.

sport. centralnyj sportivnyj klub armiy (Central Sport Club of the Army)