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24th FIBA-Asia Championship [Jul 28-Aug 5 Japan]

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China's Invincibility is a Myth

China's Invincibility is a Myth

It appears China couldn’t care less about winning in Tokushima with an Olympic ticket to Beijing a sure thing as host nation.

At the recent Manila Invitationals, the Tokushima-bound Chinese squad finished fourth and last. There were rumors that coach Adijan Chang Bin would recruit at least three players from China’s A team to reinforce the squad but in the end, only 6-5 Chen Lei was brought in to replace Zhang Qingpeng.

Curiously, Adijan took out one of his four original picks from China’s 22-man national pool. Zhang’s dismissal left only Wang Yong, Han Shuo and Yang Ming from the pool in China’s selection for Tokushima.

China’s A team is playing in the Stankovic Cup while Adijan’s squad is trying to keep head above water in the Olympic qualifiers.

China’s vulnerability was evident in its opening day 78-65 loss to Jordan in Tokushima yesterday. The Philippines plays China today in a crucial match that could determine the second team from Group A to advance to the quarterfinals.

Without Yao Ming, China is just an ordinary team.

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The only naturalized players in Tokushima rosters are Lebanon’s Joe Vogel of Colorado State and Jordan’s Rasheim Wright of District of Columbia.

Vogel, 33, was drafted by the Seattle SuperSonics in the 1996 NBA draft. He played as an import in Turkey, Japan and Saudi Arabia before taking out Lebanese citizenship in time to lead Lebanon to second place in the FIBA-Asia Championships in 2001. The 6-11 center has represented Lebanon in the last two World Championships.

Wright, 26, has guaranteed an Olympic ticket for Jordan.

A player whom Jordan tried to smuggle into Tokushima has been disqualified. Seven-foot center Dshmal Schoetz (renamed Maitah) averaged 6.2 points and 4.1 rebounds for Jordan’s title squad in the recent Jones Cup where the MVP was Wright.

But it was discovered that Schoetz played for Germany’s under-18 national squad in 1998. Under FIBA rules, a player may see action for only one national team in his lifetime. So if Schoetz ever hopes to play in a FIBA tournament again, it’ll be only for Germany.

IN OTHER NEWS......

Iran shocked South Korea, 89-75, and edged Japan, 69-64, to end a 55-year absence from the semifinals of the Asian Games in Doha last year. Iran lost to Qatar in the semifinals and settled for the bronze by crushing Jordan, 84-78.

Iran’s 6-6 forward Samad Bahrami was the Asian Games’ leading scorer and heads the squad in Tokushima with brother Aydin who is 6-7.

Iran’s coach is Serbian Rejko Toroman who was an assistant coach of the Yugoslavian national team with head coaching experience in the Hungarian and Dutch leagues.

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vogel and rasheem the only naturalized players ?? what about henderson of japan ?? and i heard korea have a naturalized player as well............
 
rycorpz said:
i believe this will happen:

RP 2-1
Jordan 2-1
Iran 2-1
China 0-3

Wishing and Hoping but still I believe our team will progress

in the other hand, a 2-1 record does'nt assure Pilipinas of getting a quarters slot...we just have to wait and see how the other teams will perform. i also believe on the RP Team, but it's the players who must believe that they can do it. playing tentatively won't help. they just have to learn from this lost and move on.
 
karim said:
vogel and rasheem the only naturalized players ?? what about henderson of japan ?? and i heard korea have a naturalized player as well............

Opps my mistake, you're right South Korea has Daniel Robert Sandrin (6'7") and Japan got J. R. Henderson now known as Sakuragi (6'8").:)
 
dreamwalker said:
Opps my mistake, you're right South Korea has Daniel Robert Sandrin (6'7") and Japan got J. R. Henderson now known as Sakuragi (6'8").:)

The Philippines will naturalize Inuyasha and Naruto next time just watch, you'll see....hehehe..:D
 
they are allowed just 1 player to naturalize ....i dont think FIBA will allow them to naturalize more than that unless their qatar(open access) :p .....
 
dreamwalker said:
The Philippines will naturalize Inuyasha and Naruto next time just watch, you'll see....hehehe..:D

oh i taught they'll naturalize hanayori danggo..
 
dreamwalker said:
IN OTHER NEWS......

Iran shocked South Korea, 89-75, and edged Japan, 69-64, to end a 55-year absence from the semifinals of the Asian Games in Doha last year. Iran lost to Qatar in the semifinals and settled for the bronze by crushing Jordan, 84-78.

Iran’s 6-6 forward Samad Bahrami was the Asian Games’ leading scorer and heads the squad in Tokushima with brother Aydin who is 6-7.

Iran’s coach is Serbian Rejko Toroman who was an assistant coach of the Yugoslavian national team with head coaching experience in the Hungarian and Dutch leagues.

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Iran is rle underrated. theyre silent beasts. i think theyre rle good at shutting down perimeter plays from teams that rely on it. Sokorea, japan, RP play very similar.. and they all have ended up victims by Iran. that's their specialty. anyway, i guess that team is kindof having problems on teams like Jordan,qatar,lebanon
 
ya we were down 3 with 40 seconds left but lots of turnoovers and fouls made the difference in the end....btw japan is not that good but they will win the championship.......it is obviously fixed with the referees , the people who watched the game would have to agree on me .....khatib and vogel got 4 fouls and none of them were fouls they were all blocks and steals !!!
 
Wat d hell happen with Lib defense? when I saw in FIBA boxscore, Lib up by 3 pts under 5mins of 4th qtr, and for just a minutes that im not be able to stay on my pc...when I checked...Lib was loss by 10pts!:eek:

Lib NT outmatched by takeuchi and sakuragi of japan?! WTF!

But Lib were still lucky..they can still make it in quarter final...while RP-NT is in 50-50 situation!

Hold your breath RP bros...the knockout game for quarter final has just begun!

LongLive Filipinas! Be Victorious over mighty meaty CHN-NT!!!
 
karim said:
ya we were down 3 with 40 seconds left but lots of turnoovers and fouls made the difference in the end....btw japan is not that good but they will win the championship.......it is obviously fixed with the referees , the people who watched the game would have to agree on me .....khatib and vogel got 4 fouls and none of them were fouls they were all blocks and steals !!!

Karim don't you think our coach is very bad ? We owned the game eventhough we have no system,no coaching at all ,and our players not themself as usual,,,plus as you said some mistakes with referees calls, and God help whoever plays Japan in such "surroundings" though I put the biggest blame on the coach who didn't rest Fadi against kuwait when were winning b y 42 pts !:eek: dunno what happened in the 4th simply BAD COACH ! we should not collapse now we must continue maybe we can beat Qatar and winner of group A Iran or Jordan and Taiwan...


should the coach stay you think? can we continue with koussay and Kelzi instead ????
 
39-27 for China, Rp kept it close with a good full court
press but their playing sloppy offense right now.
 
no man kousay is not a coach ...dont u remember the asian games ;) ?? hes maybe even worse than draggan racca.....we were outscored 25-7 in the last quarter against japan cuz the players were tired from playing 40 min against kuwait yest , whereas the japanese were well rested even though both teams won by 40+ margins , you can see how japan scored all their pts on the break where the lebanese were too tired to catch up so the coach really sux .....i dont know how far we can go with this coach...maybe to the semis MAX............hopefully 2morrow if we,re winning by 40 against UAE he will rest vogel and khatib and not play them 40 min but i doubt he would rest them....i dont know why , this is a first for me i,ve never seen a coach like this b4........
 
mate what's going on now bet phi vs. china.

ajaxballer said:
39-27 for China, Rp kept it close with a good full court
press but their playing sloppy offense right now.
 
karim said:
no man kousay is not a coach ...dont u remember the asian games ;) ?? hes maybe even worse than draggan racca.....we were outscored 25-7 in the last quarter against japan cuz the players were tired from playing 40 min against kuwait yest , whereas the japanese were well rested even though both teams won by 40+ margins , you can see how japan scored all their pts on the break where the lebanese were too tired to catch up so the coach really sux .....i dont know how far we can go with this coach...maybe to the semis MAX............hopefully 2morrow if we,re winning by 40 against UAE he will rest vogel and khatib and not play them 40 min but i doubt he would rest them....i dont know why , this is a first for me i,ve never seen a coach like this b4........

i know man but can it get any worse than this ? i was waiting to explode and now i did it...i can't take this anymore... 3 worst coaches in the same team at the same time... why this when we have sarkis and fac who can take the charge on the team...too bad both won't agree to come now.... i just hope there would be calls to night to bring them in to japan ASAP we need them now......
 
phil vs china update

phil vs china update

any1? can u pls update the score bet phil & china
 
no man i doubt they will come over night and i doubt the players will learn their systems over night as well............lek man its not that bad cuz leb proved to be successful after every coach maybe they can do that with this coach as well...its gonna be hard but lets just concentrate on the UAE game ...even though its simple but its critical so hopefully we win this game easily and the most imp thing is that the coach gives the players their rest after they increase the margin.........nshallah
 
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