24th FIBA-Asia Championship [Jul 28-Aug 5 Japan]

[jrb0yd2]

not to mention rp is missing one key player in their lineup...

but when taiwan beat lebanon in jones cup, lebanon played their hearts out... both khatib and vogel played the whole game...

 

[saints132]

kazakhstan is not really a bad team. they dominated qatar, egypt, USA in qatar invitational. it just happened they played bad early in the part of the jones cup (because of the loss of a team mate and because the team came from a tough tournament). but during their last game, they really wanted to win. their motivation was greater than RP's motivation, as RP relaxed a bit after 3 straight wins over strong teams.

before this loss, all RP losses were close games. their weakness was basically that they can't maintain the lead and close out games. so if RP solves this weakness, they are likely to proceed to the semis in tokushima

agree bro!

I believe Kazakhstan is a team bound to dominate Asia in the years to come

 

[joel232]

click this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrB0NqRkZ7w

P.S. watch this at 8mins

 

[joel232]

Here's the normal real Philippine NT level play at the start of 4th quarter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LGL9Z3NlDo

 

[joel232]

Showtime!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Qjmw-PJeE

The Philippines NT look a like american brand of basketball of asia,. more slamdunk-jams!!! They're highflyer!

 

[joel232]

Another Norwood finishes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CFARCXThwU

 

[joel232]

Great pass by Norwood during collegiate day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am06C4TL4FU&mode=related&search=

 

[VIPER232]

naaaaah
Philppines should be seeded no. 10
Philippine NT is the underdog here
beating the other 9 teams will be an upset for Philippine NT

Agree with u bro. Based on recent FIBA rankings we're at the bottom of the table. No pressure for our NT. With luck we might pull lots of upsets over these highly rank teams.

"NEW BEGINNING FOR THE OLD SCHOOL"

 

[psychopath2]

@karim of lebanon

you looked at the RP team as a lowly team as if ur team lebanon is a great 99x one
lebanon is just a 2-man team (vogel, el-khatib), the way i see it at the jones cup and manila invitationals
and we all know vogel is a naturalized player, not even a fraction of lebanese blood flows in his veins

i admit lebanon's sudden rise in asian basketball is really fantastic
back in 2002, china is #1 and #2 is between RP and korea
i acknowledged el-khatib's skills which is exceptional
but lebanon's sudden rise in asian bball was when RP team was suspended, and when they had an american reinforcement in vogel
after those events, voila!!! their the team to beat next to china

but unlike china, these lebanese team is beatable
the vogel-el khatib tandem had a hard tym winning against RP team
they beat RP team in the recent jones' cup by a buzzer-beater 3 pointer
the final score was 84-87? and that final score was the first lead of lebanon in that game
in the manila invitationals, RP team has just proven that lebanon's jones cup win against them was just a fluke
RP team beat them twice in a row in the manila invitationals CONVINCINGLY
with lebanon always playing catch-up against the RP team

RP team only sends their professional team in international competitions when its worth sending (we dont really care in fiba asia, we care only now coz its price is an olympic slot)
so next tym, i hope you'll NOT evaluate our team based on the performance of the college players we've send in some international competitions

 

[pachador2]

for me all the asian powers from lebanon to south korea to china to philippines , etc have their strengths and weaknesses. in the end, it boils down to preparations, having outstanding players, luck, etc. may the best team win !

 

[saints132]

i admit lebanon's sudden rise in asian basketball is really fantastic back in 2002, china is #1 and #2 is between RP and korea

ei bro, no offense, but I think there's no chance in hell that RP is placed as #2 together with South Korea. the only time Philippines played in 2002 with a strong showing was the Busan Asian Games (which is a non-qualifier to FIBA events), and they didn't even manage to win a medal, the host South Korea got gold, China got silver and Kazakhstan manage to win against Philippines to get the bronze.

since 2001, Lebanon was 2nd to China in FIBA Asia, and back in 2005 they were again the 2nd placer next to China and Qatar was 3rd place, so the 3 teams mentioned got a ticket to the World Basketball Championship 2006 in Japan. And from those time since 1999, the only 2nd team next to China was South Korea in 1999 and 2003, while having 3rd place finish next to Lebanon in 2001. The Philippines was nowhere to be found in FIBA Asian Basketball Championship standings. The last time Philippines got a place in FIBA Asia Championship was in 1985 at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, wherein Coach Ron Jacobs used naturalized players to beat China.

kindly check the history first, or else you'll piss other nationalities here. we should know where our basketball is at before we overrate our NT.

 

[psychopath2]

@china_team of china

well, you can do the bragging here about your NT
you have the bragging rights

but,

china dominates asian basketball because of their #1 superior size and #2 superior basketball program (they're a rich country, lolz)

but hey, my point is you really are supposed to dominate the asian region bec. of that superior size that you have or else i dunno wat to call your team if they failed to do so

THAT IS, china only owns asia bec. they are bigger (add to dat their bball programs)
when china faced teams with the same size as they are, they shrink and looked withered
they cant win when they dont have the HEIGHT/SIZE advantage

look at these people, in World Championships height advantage is never an issue, teams are well-matched when it comes to size
so, the better team wins
in Asian Championships, size is a big factor
its not the better team wins but more of the BIGGER team wins

sorry, but china can only beat teams which are undersized but when matched with teams of their same size (USA, Spain, Argentina etc...), they stink

thats why im proud of our RP team
our center which is mr. taulava is just 6'9 and our power forward mr. williams is just 6'5 but we still managed to beat teams with 7 foot centers and 6"9-6'10 PFs
we beat them not because of our size (definitely) but because we played better than them (more knowledge of the game)
i even remember instances where opposing teams outrebounded as but we still won the game

lastly, i think you are also the same chinese who asked "When did the Filipinos last beat China?"

but, let me ask you, "Have you won against team USA in your bball history?"

i have to ask this bec. china and RP are not matched in terms of size
but how about China and USA? Both teams are matched in size
how come china cant even win at least one game every decade against team USA

with all of that being said, i hope u learn some weaknesses of your NT
we filipinos own southeast asian basketball but we seldom brag that bcoz we know that's not our level of basketball and its not really that significant winning it

i hope you feel the same
owning asia should not be that very signifiant to china to the extent you insult other NTs, bcoz this is not your level of competition as far as size is concerned
if your team china wins at least a bronze medal at the 2008 olympics, then, thats something that you should be bragging here in asia and no one will stop you from boasting that achievement

 

[donmar2]

Agree with u bro. Based on recent FIBA rankings we're at the bottom of the table. No pressure for our NT. With luck we might pull lots of upsets over these highly rank teams.

"NEW BEGINNING FOR THE OLD SCHOOL"

Every win we have in the Asian Championship would be an upsets... and we've been doing it for the last few weeks

 

[psychopath2]

ei bro, no offense, but I think there's no chance in hell that RP is placed as #2 together with South Korea. the only time Philippines played in 2002 with a strong showing was the Busan Asian Games (which is a non-qualifier to FIBA events), and they didn't even manage to win a medal, the host South Korea got gold, China got silver and Kazakhstan manage to win against Philippines to get the bronze.

since 2001, Lebanon was 2nd to China in FIBA Asia, and back in 2005 they were again the 2nd placer next to China and Qatar was 3rd place, so the 3 teams mentioned got a ticket to the World Basketball Championship 2006 in Japan. And from those time since 1999, the only 2nd team next to China was South Korea in 1999 and 2003, while having 3rd place finish next to Lebanon in 2001. The Philippines was nowhere to be found in FIBA Asian Basketball Championship standings. The last time Philippines got a place in FIBA Asia Championship was in 1985 at Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, wherein Coach Ron Jacobs used naturalized players to beat China.

kindly check the history first, or else you'll piss other nationalities here. we should know where our basketball is at before we overrate our NT.

saints, ok...
i have my errors there bec. i didnt specify wat ranking i am talking about
but wat im citing there (the#2 ranking) is in the asian games 2002
i know its hilarious, "ranking in the 2002 asian games"

but hey, i wont be talking here of RP rankings in FIBA ASIA, of course, bec. i know for a fact that our PROFFESIONAL STARS do not participate in that tournament (i told you guys already that the only reason the philippines is participating now is bec. of that OLYMPIC BERTH!!!)

lebanon is ranked higher than us bec. they send their all-stars in fiba asia competitions unlike the RP team who doesnt really care to partipate in that event

the world knows lebanon is 2nd in asia
but the filipinos know otherwise

but are you believing on that ranking FIBA gave us???
you think its legit?
even japan is ahead of us i think in that way of ranking......

we beat that lebanon team (ranked#2) twice this month with el-khatib and vogel
and that african team of qatar (ranked#3), we beat them handily in jones' cup with their ace player MUSA playing for their team

if the world thinks that way of the RP team,
well its ok
let the RP team do the talking on the court in tokushima

 

[manu_bol2]

saints, ok...
i have my errors there bec. i didnt specify wat ranking i am talking about
but wat im citing there (the#2 ranking) is in the asian games 2002
i know its hilarious, "ranking in the 2002 asian games"

but hey, i wont be talking here of RP rankings in FIBA ASIA, of course, bec. i know for a fact that our PROFFESIONAL STARS do not participate in that tournament (i told you guys already that the only reason the philippines is participating now is bec. of that OLYMPIC BERTH!!!)

lebanon is ranked higher than us bec. they send their all-stars in fiba asia competitions unlike the RP team who doesnt really care to partipate in that event

the world knows lebanon is 2nd in asia
but the filipinos know otherwise

but are you believing on that ranking FIBA gave us???
you think its legit?
even japan is ahead of us i think in that way of ranking......

we beat that lebanon team (ranked#2) twice this month with el-khatib and vogel
and that african team of qatar (ranked#3), we beat them handily in jones' cup with their ace player MUSA playing for their team

if the world thinks that way of the RP team,
well its ok
let the RP team do the talking on the court in tokushima

me thinks that circa 2002, RP is 2nd or 3rd in asia. if there was a tournament in 2002 where all teams in asia participated at full strength, RP would have been 2nd or 3rd or 4th. we almost beat korea and korea beat china (with yao)... don't you think that performance merits us at least a 3rd place standing in 2002?

fiba ranking do not necessarily reflect the true strength of a team

 

[psychopath2]

me thinks that circa 2002, RP is 2nd or 3rd in asia. if there was a tournament in 2002 where all teams in asia participated at full strength, RP would have been 2nd or 3rd or 4th. we almost beat korea and korea beat china (with yao)... don't you think that performance merits us at least a 3rd place standing in 2002?

fiba ranking do not necessarily reflect the true strength of a team

your last statement is my point
i dunno why your telling me my point

 

[daniab2]

You never beat us in a official game till now.Rp wins lebanon 4 times in a friendly games .

 

[bolabasket2]

All games between Philippines and Lebanon are always humdingers...you'll never know who's gonna win until the final minute. Just that Philippines came out the winner in recent games. Nevertheless, both teams are really even and only the breaks of the game will decide the winner at the end....

 

[manu_bol2]

your last statement is my point
i dunno why your telling me my point

im not contradicting you, bro...

i was merely supporting your views...

 

[apiSigbinz2]

You never beat us in a official game till now.Rp wins lebanon 4 times in a friendly games .

how can you call Manila Invitational Tournament a friendly games?!!!