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24th FIBA-Asia Championship [Jul 28-Aug 5 Japan]

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spanishman said:
1.- CHINA (even with Team B is the best national team in Asia)
2.- JAPAN (playing like hosts and Pavlicevic progresses will be important factors to this second place even without Yuta Tabuse and Walter Brown).
3.- SYRIA (black horse of tournament... Crack Madanli)
4.- JORDAN (another black horse... Excellents players like Wright and Daghlas)
5.- LEBANON (traditionally the second best team in Asia, but lately is worsening his level)
6.- SOUTH KOREA (height is a problem)
7.- ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN (I do not discard surprises and this team obtain a better result)
8.- PHILIPPINES

I´M SORRY, PHILIPPINE FRIENDS, BUT YOUR NATIONAL TEAM IS NOT OF THE BEST AND TAULAVA ISN´T GASOL, ALAPAG ISN´T CALDERON AND NEITHER I THINK SEIGLE IS LIKE "THE BOMB" NAVARRO. I WISH COULD BE FILIPINOS COMPETITIVE IN A FUTURE.

so what is this? is this your ranking of the teams?

and ofcourse Rp team aint no Gasol or any player from you NT... Pinoy to! So we'll play Filipino Basketball!!! Peace :)
 
spanishman said:
1.- CHINA (even with Team B is the best national team in Asia)
2.- JAPAN (playing like hosts and Pavlicevic progresses will be important factors to this second place even without Yuta Tabuse and Walter Brown).
3.- SYRIA (black horse of tournament... Crack Madanli)
4.- JORDAN (another black horse... Excellents players like Wright and Daghlas)
5.- LEBANON (traditionally the second best team in Asia, but lately is worsening his level)
6.- SOUTH KOREA (height is a problem)
7.- ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN (I do not discard surprises and this team obtain a better result)
8.- PHILIPPINES

I´M SORRY, PHILIPPINE FRIENDS, BUT YOUR NATIONAL TEAM IS NOT OF THE BEST AND TAULAVA ISN´T GASOL, ALAPAG ISN´T CALDERON AND NEITHER I THINK SEIGLE IS LIKE "THE BOMB" NAVARRO. I WISH COULD BE FILIPINOS COMPETITIVE IN A FUTURE.
well we just see who will be? Our country is still underdog in ASIA but who knows...But evry FILIPINOS HEART we are still NO.1....GOD BLESS RP TEAM.....
 
spanishman said:
1.- CHINA (even with Team B is the best national team in Asia)
2.- JAPAN (playing like hosts and Pavlicevic progresses will be important factors to this second place even without Yuta Tabuse and Walter Brown).
3.- SYRIA (black horse of tournament... Crack Madanli)
4.- JORDAN (another black horse... Excellents players like Wright and Daghlas)
5.- LEBANON (traditionally the second best team in Asia, but lately is worsening his level)
6.- SOUTH KOREA (height is a problem)
7.- ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN (I do not discard surprises and this team obtain a better result)
8.- PHILIPPINES

I´M SORRY, PHILIPPINE FRIENDS, BUT YOUR NATIONAL TEAM IS NOT OF THE BEST AND TAULAVA ISN´T GASOL, ALAPAG ISN´T CALDERON AND NEITHER I THINK SEIGLE IS LIKE "THE BOMB" NAVARRO. I WISH COULD BE FILIPINOS COMPETITIVE IN A FUTURE.
Good ranking:rolleyes:
 
spanishman said:
1.- CHINA (even with Team B is the best national team in Asia)
2.- JAPAN (playing like hosts and Pavlicevic progresses will be important factors to this second place even without Yuta Tabuse and Walter Brown).
3.- SYRIA (black horse of tournament... Crack Madanli)
4.- JORDAN (another black horse... Excellents players like Wright and Daghlas)
5.- LEBANON (traditionally the second best team in Asia, but lately is worsening his level)
6.- SOUTH KOREA (height is a problem)
7.- ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN (I do not discard surprises and this team obtain a better result)
8.- PHILIPPINES

I´M SORRY, PHILIPPINE FRIENDS, BUT YOUR NATIONAL TEAM IS NOT OF THE BEST AND TAULAVA ISN´T GASOL, ALAPAG ISN´T CALDERON AND NEITHER I THINK SEIGLE IS LIKE "THE BOMB" NAVARRO. I WISH COULD BE FILIPINOS COMPETITIVE IN A FUTURE.
I do not agree with u spanish man for many reasons:
1-Of course Chine is the best team in asia but i don't think their B team will be like Team A and u know that Chine A without Yao And Lebanon without Fadi el khatib in Doha 2006 game chine defeat Lebanon by 2 pts,and in last asian championship in Quatar 2005,chine defeat lebanon by difficulty.
2-Second,before to give the rankings of asia team hope lebanon participate .Lebanon now in a war and anything clear about our NT.
3-Also we should wait Waba cup,Seaba cup,Gulf cup,Middle asia cup...to give our first opinion about the asia 2007 rankings.
4-If u want to talk about the rankings Lebanon and quatar is much better than jordan and syria even jordan naturalized Rasheim and syria joined 3 Syrian brazilian players.But i'm not sure about that like i said we should wait waba champ to know.
And japan,in Doha 2006 they didn't qualified to semi final,they lost many games.
Finally,10x for ur Opinion and i respect ur choice.
 
there are plenty of big man in the Phils. Some of those are in amateur leagues. Watch some of them in the future.

FYI Danny Seigle once ranked top 100 prospect in the NBA.

I never seen Gian Chiu play but hopefully he can play here in Phils. I read some stories of him and man he's good. One of the future prospects of RP team.
 
You might not see RP team play but watch them play in FIBA asian and the mini tournaments that RP will play. They will train in belgrade next month. You will see the RP style of Basketball.
 
spanishman said:
1.- CHINA (even with Team B is the best national team in Asia)
2.- JAPAN (playing like hosts and Pavlicevic progresses will be important factors to this second place even without Yuta Tabuse and Walter Brown).
3.- SYRIA (black horse of tournament... Crack Madanli)
4.- JORDAN (another black horse... Excellents players like Wright and Daghlas)
5.- LEBANON (traditionally the second best team in Asia, but lately is worsening his level)
6.- SOUTH KOREA (height is a problem)
7.- ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN (I do not discard surprises and this team obtain a better result)
8.- PHILIPPINES

I´M SORRY, PHILIPPINE FRIENDS, BUT YOUR NATIONAL TEAM IS NOT OF THE BEST AND TAULAVA ISN´T GASOL, ALAPAG ISN´T CALDERON AND NEITHER I THINK SEIGLE IS LIKE "THE BOMB" NAVARRO. I WISH COULD BE FILIPINOS COMPETITIVE IN A FUTURE.

I like your rankings even if you ranked our country as no.8. We were out of the international stint for two years, so our current team is a bit rusty. But let me remind you that our NT likes to play as the under dog. Most under dos show lots of surprises, so lets just wait and see who wins.
 
Try to understand Spanishman... we indios are acting a little too uppity for his taste, so naturally he has to try to put us down. ;)

Hmmm... your rankings actually make sense, though I wouldn't put Japan so far high in that list... they've never won a game against an all PBA selection (remember that the one win they did get against us in the 1994 Asian Games was against the San Miguel team wearing the national colors) and I predict though they will give us trouble at the start, we'll get our act together in the endgame, even with the homecourt advantage. Kinda like WWII. :D

I'm thinking Qatar and Chinese Taipei will also pull out some surprises at Tokushima-- I'd at least rank them above Iran.

And don't forget Kazakhstan-- they've managed to pull out upsets in the past, even winning Bronze in the 2002 Asiad. They are the greatest country in the world, after all. All other countries are run by little girls. HIGH FIVE! JAGSHEMASH!:D
 
I am grateful for the persons who have respected me. Is my opinion. I have put to lebanon in a low position because there is instability in the country and it has to be obvious in the field.
IN REFERENCE TO THE FILIPINOS' POSITION I WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS BECAUSE THE FILIPINOS ARE NOT SO GOOD AS THEY THINK AND PHILIPINES WHEN PLAY IN SERBIA THEY WILL SEE THEY DO NOT RETURN TO CALL ME IDIOT. THE BASKETBALL IN EUROPE IS ON THE MAXIMUM LEVEL AND FILIPINOS I DON´T KNOW THEY CAN COMPARE WITH THE WORST TEAMS THAT PLAY AT EUROBASKET (POLAND OR CZECH REPUBLIC). A GREETING AND I HOPE THAT THEY PROGRESS, BECAUSE I LIKE PHILIPPINES´ PASSION FOR THE BASKETBALL.
 
no spaniard u cant say syria 3rd just cuz u saw jalaa.....jalaa is much stronger than syria cuz it has maybe the top 10 of the NT players in addition to julius nwosu and vincent jones who is maybe half the team.......their still missing another guy under the basket where they have only 1 brazilian/center and missing 1 wing where they only have maadanli and this is talking about the starting 5 , which i also dont know how good this center this........until now they have only 1 good player(maadanli) and japan man common we beat them 3 straight times even wen we were a weak team back in 1999 , we were still better than japan.......and abt jordan they never got to the semis(best finish 7th) !! how could u put all these teams above Lebanon who got 2nd twice(2001 and 2005),got to the semis with their team B in 2003 and beat france and venezuala last year......if it is cuz u saw Lebanon during the asian games last year , lebanon lost all their games last year cuz of the absence of players , a coach and no preperation , except their win against syria ;) ....and how is philippines 8th.......it won in friendlies against lebanon and qatar....have u ever watched asian championship man :p and abt the instability in lebanon , last year there was war and leb won 2 games at the WBC , including a win against France so if theres a bad situation in the country , on the contrary our guys will play ever harder so they can give every win they can get to the country and hopefully a top 2 finish and a qualification to the olympics...+ i think lebanon can beat china if u remove yao ming....they almost did it missing el khatib , beshara and ali f by losing just by 2 pts ...china is not that deep they have only like 5 or 6 players in the team A who r good....china B is definitely weaker than leb......
 
To spanishman:

Peace, hermano! No one said that the Philippine Team would actually win in Belgrade. They're just saying that since the games might be televised in Europe, you might get the chance to see how the RP team plays first-hand and be better equipped to make a judgment.

You guys are the World Champs. You have nothing left to prove. Let us poor indios have our fun. :)
 
Karim, I Think You Have Reason With This Post. Lebanon Is A Heavily Team In Asia And Maybe Play Final Game Versus China...
Fadi El Khatib Is An Excellent Scorer, Joe Vogel Is A Good Center With A Lot Of Experience, But Philippines Isn´t Top Five In Asia.
 
Gian wasn't that good when he played for Ateneo. I have a feeling it's because he was being forced to play center even though he's skinny for his size. I'm hoping that he makes the transition to the 3 or 4 position in the States since it's more suited to his body type and he seems more comfortable facing the basket. In 4-5 more years, he could be better than Danny Siegle.
 
Presidente, I´m Very Excited To See Philippines National Team In Europe. I Would Like To See Philippines To Be Able To Judge Level Of Your National Team. When I See A Rp Five Match, Probably I Will Make A New Asia´s Rank.
 
karim said:
no spaniard u cant say syria 3rd just cuz u saw jalaa.....jalaa is much stronger than syria cuz it has maybe the top 10 of the NT players in addition to julius nwosu and vincent jones who is maybe half the team.......their still missing another guy under the basket where they have only 1 brazilian/center and missing 1 wing where they only have maadanli and this is talking about the starting 5 , which i also dont know how good this center this........until now they have only 1 good player(maadanli) and japan man common we beat them 3 straight times even wen we were a weak team back in 1999 , we were still better than japan.......and abt jordan they never got to the semis(best finish 7th) !! how could u put all these teams above Lebanon who got 2nd twice(2001 and 2005),got to the semis with their team B in 2003 and beat france and venezuala last year......if it is cuz u saw Lebanon during the asian games last year , lebanon lost all their games last year cuz of the absence of players , a coach and no preperation , except their win against syria ;) ....and how is philippines 8th.......it won in friendlies against lebanon and qatar....have u ever watched asian championship man :p and abt the instability in lebanon , last year there was war and leb won 2 games at the WBC , including a win against France so if theres a bad situation in the country , on the contrary our guys will play ever harder so they can give every win they can get to the country and hopefully a top 2 finish and a qualification to the olympics...+ i think lebanon can beat china if u remove yao ming....they almost did it missing el khatib , beshara and ali f by losing just by 2 pts ...china is not that deep they have only like 5 or 6 players in the team A who r good....china B is definitely weaker than leb......

Well frankly Karim iam not interested about history and achievments of lebanon...Serbia since 2002 coudlnt make anything europe,,world cup,,and olympics games..while they have best players and coaches in europe!! jordan ranked 7th big deal last time they played in asiad they were ranked 4th without Sam daghlas playing and with 2 months of preparation new coach and new playing style..by far lebanon doesnt have a coach no preparation and so sadly
those bad events in the north of lebanon will affect ur NT.
we all saw what happened last time labanon played without traning they got f10th spot..which means there is nothing can be taking for granted.this asian cup wont be like other once...IT will be win or go home!!!
 
spanishman said:
Presidente, I´m Very Excited To See Philippines National Team In Europe. I Would Like To See Philippines To Be Able To Judge Level Of Your National Team. When I See A Rp Five Match, Probably I Will Make A New Asia´s Rank.

Como estas amigo ;) I won't argue with your asian ranking because that's your opinion hehehehe, but i won't accept having japan as 2nd with being host as your consideration. Japan's crack players are aging :o no offense but its true, while tabuse we dont know if he would suit up. While their present national players are young, raw and not that talented to play for international tournament :rolleyes:
 
Philippines' national Team Budget

Philippines' national Team Budget

Do you have guys any idea how much is Philippines National team budget for this dream to the Olympics???

I was impressed to know that Coach Chot got a total budget for his NT the sum of


PHP70,000,000.00 that is roughly equivalent to ..........US$1.5 MILLION

Anybody please correct me... are my figures correct???
 
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