24th FIBA-Asia Championship [Jul 28-Aug 5 Japan]

[igorotski]

my guess on what ranking may happen in ABC

1. Lebanon- they've been to WBC and sure has a lot of experience. with china using team b, makes them vulberable hence,asia's #1 contender becomes the #1. if they got through european 3rd placer France why cant it beat other asian teams?they must avoid overconfidence and fight hard as if they were the underdog always.

2.Iran-the team has improved a lot and had surprised japan and korea last asian games.they must have gained confidence from that but still less compared to lebanon. also their asset is height.

3-4. japan/philippines/korea-
japan's homecourt advntage can boost them but still not enough for them to win the gold.they're still stagnant and no improvement has been seen .

Philippines, has improved a lot too. it's starting to play the international kind of game and relies on quickness&outside shooting. but absence for 5yrs had given chance teams like lebanon and iran to learn more and surpass us. we're having problems also in height.

as for korea, their team is mysterious and may shock other teams so they shud not be taken for granted. their performance in asian games was kinda dissapointing tho.

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Now,China for me has no place given that theyll use team B.if im not mistaken, most of its players must still be kinda immature of international games and have little confidence. expose their team B more in intl' games, they can get a place in the next ABC.

 

[mikepogi]

I don't know where you get all this wisdom from? So far, refering to the Asian Club championship, no team except the Philippines could have possibly shown the real stuff, because only the Philippines are using their NT there.
Of course there could be an endless discussion now about who is stronger - a clubteam with two imports or a true national team with a certain number of players still to be added from other clubs. As for Kazakhstan, a NT with the best locals would certainly be stronger than the clubteam playing in Iran - for the teams from the Middle East I couldn't really say, and probably no other Filippino fan here either. Our friends from Lebanon could possibly come up with some info here.
Until the Asian Champs begin, and every team has to show its real face, everything is nothing but pure speculation.
Yet the Philippine team hasn't accomplished anything, that could possibly make anyone believe, that they are already a top team and a safe bet for the Olympics. Too many other teams also have a solid chance in my eyes (of course the Philippines being one of them!).

So far, losses against the iranian clubteam and the NT in a friendly match, a loss against the clubteam from Kazakhstan and a big loss against the clubteam from Syria - ont he other hand a win over a clubteam from Bahrain, that has lost big time to everyone else too and a nice win over the Bluestars.
I don't think this is yet any kind of indication for being the number one contender for the olympic ticket.

Nor is any indication that the RP squad wouldn't come out on top.. You said it yourself there is no way for us to find out since RP are the only ones that fielded a national squad.

 

[daniab]

Like i said in many posts in this thread that we can't give the top 4 teams in Asia bcz many things :
1-All asia teams changed his players like jordan,syria,....
2-A new NT will participate in asia champ(Philippine) and this last is a good team.
3-Chine will send his B team .
4-The competition is very difficult,all the teams try to get the first position to qualified to olympics games next year !!

 

[kukoc7]

True. So many things have changed. This thread should be updated only after the Asian Championships.

 

[bobo81]

Daniab is correct, we can't establish the top 4 teams yet. We have not seen this RP battle it out yet with these asian teams so everyone stop rating them.

 

[CHINA TEAM]

my guess on what ranking may happen in ABC


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Now,China for me has no place given that theyll use team B.if im not mistaken, most of its players must still be kinda immature of international games and have little confidence. expose their team B more in intl' games, they can get a place in the next ABC.

Hehe,dude,china B team just beat china a team!~oh my gud!~

 

[jiefangjun]

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Now,China for me has no place given that theyll use team B.if im not mistaken, most of its players must still be kinda immature of international games and have little confidence. expose their team B more in intl' games, they can get a place in the next ABC.

just a side notes, china B team won a tune-up game against A team last night. Now they split the record of 1-1. A team played without their top 7 key members though.

B team will play 2 games against Melbone Tigers this week.

 

[CHINA TEAM]

just a side notes, china B team won a tune-up game against A team last night. Now they split the record of 1-1. A team played without their top 7 key members though.

B team will play 2 games against Melbone Tigers this week.

So, no matter is China A team or China B team, the strength very is all formidable in Asia, as for very many friends thought " B team was inferior A TEAM " the view is very one-sided. Therefore, PR;Lebanon;S.korea and so on...do not have to think we dispatch B team to think this year the competition can very with ease defeat us, we cannot let you be very relaxed in Japan

 

[mowjow]

China is the team to beat in asian region... They got a height and power...
no question about that.. But some asian team are improving... like lebanon who beat france ( because no tony parker ) at that time. Iran who beat sokor.. Philippines who beat lebanon not once not twice but 3 times.... SOKOR.. quite still dangerous...

Talking about china's arrogant.. they send a so called B team.. i guess anyone will agree on me that doesnt matter what type of class do you have... Nevermind if you send yao ming or bruce lee the bottom line every asian team except china... want a competition among asian countries... So beware chinese team... dont say ending words yet.. maybe one day any asian team will shocked your basketball team, just like SOKOR screwed you on ASIAN GAMES...

 

[mowjow]

If you talking about history..

RP team won bronse medal in OLYMPICS since 1956... long time ago....
too long but we made a history...

No one asian team yet overcome or level that achievement when it comes on basketball competition...

 

[PRSURF]

If you talking about history..

RP team won bronse medal in OLYMPICS since 1956... long time ago....
too long but we made a history...

No one asian team yet overcome or level that achievement when it comes on basketball competition...

Bahh thats old

 

[igorotski]

If you talking about history..

RP team won bronse medal in OLYMPICS since 1956... long time ago....
too long but we made a history...

No one asian team yet overcome or level that achievement when it comes on basketball competition...

dude we know that we got it and we've been teling it to others for several times.no people here on asian bball forums dont know it. let's stop bringing out past stuffs and focus on the present, our RP 5, cus it's useless. they jus tend to say "the only thing u can do is brag about something happened long time ago."

peace

 

[d'dreamer]

I don't know where you get all this wisdom from? So far, refering to the Asian Club championship, no team except the Philippines could have possibly shown the real stuff, because only the Philippines are using their NT there.
Of course there could be an endless discussion now about who is stronger - a clubteam with two imports or a true national team with a certain number of players still to be added from other clubs. As for Kazakhstan, a NT with the best locals would certainly be stronger than the clubteam playing in Iran - for the teams from the Middle East I couldn't really say, and probably no other Filippino fan here either. Our friends from Lebanon could possibly come up with some info here.
Until the Asian Champs begin, and every team has to show its real face, everything is nothing but pure speculation.
Yet the Philippine team hasn't accomplished anything, that could possibly make anyone believe, that they are already a top team and a safe bet for the Olympics. Too many other teams also have a solid chance in my eyes (of course the Philippines being one of them!).

So far, losses against the iranian clubteam and the NT in a friendly match, a loss against the clubteam from Kazakhstan and a big loss against the clubteam from Syria - ont he other hand a win over a clubteam from Bahrain, that has lost big time to everyone else too and a nice win over the Bluestars.
I don't think this is yet any kind of indication for being the number one contender for the olympic ticket.

hey, can u name an asian country aside from china who can beat a team with 7'3" monster import? and bottomline is, our NT team went there not to aspire for the championship but just to learn or at least see how other countries have developed. i mean their NT players who are playing there.
and one thing more, if we bring the worst team in our div1 and put a 7'3" monster import and another who has a very good touch in shooting. i think they can beat the saba battery of iran convincingly.

 

[d'dreamer]

daniab/karim, do you know the complete line up of lebanon who will be at the tokushima games? do they naturalized some players too just for the july games? i believe series of exhibition games between lebanon NT and philippine NT will be played here in the philippines just before the olympic qualifier in japan.

 

[jiefangjun]

China is the team to beat in asian region... They got a height and power...
no question about that.. But some asian team are improving... like lebanon who beat france ( because no tony parker ) at that time. Iran who beat sokor.. Philippines who beat lebanon not once not twice but 3 times.... SOKOR.. quite still dangerous...

don't forget that china is improving too.
Your lebanon and Iran cases are supportive to your point. but couple wins in some friendship games mean nothing for philippines. IMHO, philippines basketball is still as same as his before if not worse, but other asian countries are playing much better basketball now.

 

[TechSupport]

hey, can u name an asian country aside from china who can beat a team with 7'3" monster import? and bottomline is, our NT team went there not to aspire for the championship but just to learn or at least see how other countries have developed. i mean their NT players who are playing there.
and one thing more, if we bring the worst team in our div1 and put a 7'3" monster import and another who has a very good touch in shooting. i think they can beat the saba battery of iran convincingly.

he already figured out how the philippines will fare against the other asian teams when the philippines lost to iran with a 7'3" dominating import and another import good enough to be payed thousand of dollars. he is saying the rp team that lost to latvia by 8 points which of course composed of players trying out for a slot in the rp team would have lost by a bigger margin if 4 of its other nt players played inculding golden states' biendrins. he forgot that that rp team didnt have the 10 players(im going to repeat - not 4 but 10) from the current team. and to think that it is not really a team and lost by 8 points against a real team with 8 of its players are from the nt. he only sees his side. no other else. now, may i ask the same question? where did he get all this wisdom from? watch out! he'll dunk on you.

 

[bsgermany]

Why don't we just wait for the Asian Champs and see how dominating (or not) the Philippines really going to be?

I wrote, refering to the results of the Club Champs and the loss to Iran in the friendly:" I don't think this is yet any kind of indication for being the number one contender for the olympic ticket." I still don't know what's wrong with that statement, or did the Philippines really come up with convincing results?

As for the game against Latvia - you don't really believe the Philippines could keep up with the best in Europe do you?

 

[daniab]

daniab/karim, do you know the complete line up of lebanon who will be at the tokushima games? do they naturalized some players too just for the july games? i believe series of exhibition games between lebanon NT and philippine NT will be played here in the philippines just before the olympic qualifier in japan.

At the moment,Lebanese NT didn't have a coach ,in few days will come a new coach(Dragan ratza or Elias zoros) one of them will make a contract with lebanese federation.I will tell u the lebanese NT news when they get ready !!

 

[TechSupport]

the loss to iran in the friendly game is similar to what happened to lebanon when they lost twice against a ragtag philippine team. trying to figure out what they dont know with our brand basketball. im the only one here that is saying the win over lebanon last year is nothing. yeah we have something to read in the newspapers after those wins but lebanon got the better of it by learning more how to play good one on one players. it "might" have something to do with their wins in WC. take note of the word "might" to avoid violent reactions.

 

[TechSupport]

regarding the philippines matching up against the best of europe? hold your horses! we're talking about latvia and now you're talking about europe. lets focus with latvia and we'll do europe later. me doing a *wink* *wink*.