Yup , but how can we able to proof dicumentation of residency if they cant provide that passport is done 3 years ago.. only because they play in pba..@reamily
as we all know OCA was all about passport and must have reside in the country for at least 3 years.
same wisdom with FIBA.
it's not all about bloodline nor heritage but based on hard copy and documentation.
But this is the starting lineup of Philippines if all stakeholders got togetherEuropean teams during the 60's(?) 70's and 80's are parading naturalized players more than one
same thing with Oceania teams they paraded several non-oceania players during those time.
South American teams has done the same thing.
as far as numero uno USA Basketball during the 70's they paraded Ernest Grunfeld of Romania in 1976 Olympics
the 90's and 2k's the likes of Patrick Ewing of Jamaica, the dream Hakeem of Nigeria, Tim Duncan of Carribean Island
and recently Joel Embid of Cameroon played for Uncle Sam as well.
whatever reason or justification why they choose there adopted country instead of their birth place
the bottomline here it's a reality even during those days.
it's just that here in Asia it started late, only the late Boss Danding has the audacity to copy what those western are doing during the early 80's
and Japan are starting to do the same thing in the late 80(?). 90's and until now.
this would be able to face China. of course, it would be an uphill battle with Yao Ming as the biggest obstacles but this team would have a boxer's chance against the Great Wall.But this is the starting lineup of Philippines if all stakeholders got together
Asi
Menk
Sonny
Danny
Olsen
Bench
Chris clay
Rob Parker
Rudy Hatfield - might be cut for andy
Jeff Flowers
Kenneth
Dondon
Dennis
This team is deep as as you can sound
A lot of slashing and drop off are needed in the game to make yao in foul trouble..this would be able to face China. of course, it would be an uphill battle with Yao Ming as the biggest obstacles but this team would have a boxer's chance against the Great Wall.
I might replace Jeff Flowers with James Walkvist or Mick Pennisi, bigs who can shoot outside.But this is the starting lineup of Philippines if all stakeholders got together
Asi
Menk
Sonny
Danny
Olsen
Bench
Chris clay
Rob Parker
Rudy Hatfield - might be cut for andy
Jeff Flowers
Kenneth
Dondon
Dennis
This team is deep as as you can sound
I never imagine atime James freaking walkvist being named in a national team hahahI might replace Jeff Flowers with James Walkvist or Mick Pennisi, bigs who can shoot outside.
Flowers is an erratic poor man's version of Taulava. He relies mainly on power which where Asi and Menk thrived. I would even choose Ildefonso over him.I never imagine atime James freaking walkvist being named in a national team hahah
But andy seigle was too...but its dennis espino is our best pf and asi too.. if jeff was serviceableFlowers is an erratic poor man's version of Taulava. He relies mainly on power which where Asi and Menk thrived. I would even choose Ildefonso over him.
How did Andy Seigle come out in the equation? I'm not even talking about him. My point is, we would have needed bigs who can shoot outside to to bring out Yao and the rest of the bigs of China out of the shaded lane.But andy seigle was too...but its dennis espino is our best pf and asi too.. if jeff was serviceable
Asi developed his 3 point shot in 2002... Janes walkvist cant even.push mike hrabak what more seo jang hoon ( before beating china we have to hurdle koreans)..the best big outside of asi os already dennis espino and extent mick pennisi but im only basing on jong tendencies where penissi wasnt even considered making the lineup.up until the danny seigle injury..How did Andy Seigle come out in the equation? I'm not even talking about him. My point is, we would have needed bigs who can shoot outside to to bring out Yao and the rest of the bigs of China out of the shaded lane.
@reamily
as we all know OCA was all about passport and must have reside in the country for at least 3 years.
same wisdom with FIBA.
it's not all about bloodline nor heritage but based on hard copy and documentation.
Off- topic: Reports circulated that Zamboanga Valientes are augmenting their personnel for Dubai International tournament. They secured commitment from former NBA no.1 draft pick Anthony Bennett; returnees Sam Deguara and Malick Diouf; Terence Romeo and MPBL Finals MVP Jason Brickman. This looks formidable crew than last year’s edition. And they can be a good sparring partner for Gilas in preparation for FIBA 2nd window…
Valientes is not yet complete and if they are hell- bent to compete it would be good idea if they ring Mike Phillips, Kymani Ladi or Remy Martin for this short gig.
Strong Group Athletics reportedly begged off to participate with said tournament. Yeah, after controversial referee calls last year’s tourney.
And speaking of Jason Brickman it seems that he has not signed yet for Meralco…
So based on OCA rules players Scuba Holt, Zavier Lucero, Mike Phillips and even Malick Diouf if naturalisation papers completed can play but the likes of Barefield, Remy Martin, Boogie Ellis, Kihei Clark, Kamaka Hepa, Kymani Ladi and even Jason Brickman can’t.
Sir Fil,
Lucero, Philips, and Malick is a sure thing bec. they've already satisfied that 3 year residency rule. Article 53: 2. b to c
as for Barefield, Martin and Brickman they are in the boundary level, it now depends on how the interpretation of the below provision
considering they've been in and out of the country during those times.
Article 53: Necessary Conditions for representing a Country
2. Competitors will be eligible if they comply with the following qualifications:
b. That they are nationals or citizens of the country they represent and have lived there continuously for a period of not less than 3 years.
c. That they have become naturalized in the country they represent and have permanent residence there.
as for Ellis and Clark unless they've establish a permanent residence here a long time ago during off-season from their respective D1 and club teams.
as for Hepa the only recorded stay was during his NBTC days but after that no available data was available.
as for Ladi he hasn't satisfied that 3 year residency.
Espino for me is the best player during the 1998 AG and a vital cog in the 2002 edition together with Asi, although the latter was not known for his shooting. The best shooting bigs during this time were Pennisi and Walkvist. Jeff Flowers? There are other deserving players than him. I don't even remember him playing in the PBA.Asi developed his 3 point shot in 2002... Janes walkvist cant even.push mike hrabak what more seo jang hoon ( before beating china we have to hurdle koreans)..the best big outside of asi os already dennis espino and extent mick pennisi but im only basing on jong tendencies where penissi wasnt even considered making the lineup.up until the danny seigle injury..