2025 SEA Games

[Metta2]

Yep, facilities are important. It's such a common sense thing and us not doing anything about it is mind-boggling.

Let's say you're a kid growing up and you fall in love with baseball...where can you play? Good luck finding 2 whole teams who knows the rules, have the equipment to play with and an open field to play in where you won't accidentally hit anything.

And the thing with baseball (and futbol) is it requires a lot of muscle-memory movements that has to be learned really young and over a long time. It takes much longer to master than basketball. So it's imperative that you play it as a kid as much as possible. How do you do that in the Philippines, it's impossible.

We got a headstart in baseball and basketball because of our American connection. We lost our lead/advantage in Asia the moment the other countries has had time to outwork us.

 

[Metta2]

For those with young kids or are going to have kids...if you want the highest probability team sport where your child can get an athletic scholarship (or at least make it to a varsity team) in the Philippines...get them into baseball or softball (for girls).

It doesn't require elite size/athleticism. And if you start training before high school age, you will be in the upper 1% of the population.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

Yep, facilities are important. It's such a common sense thing and us not doing anything about it is mind-boggling.

Let's say you're a kid growing up and you fall in love with baseball...where can you play? Good luck finding 2 whole teams who knows the rules, have the equipment to play with and an open field to play in where you won't accidentally hit anything.

And the thing with baseball (and futbol) is it requires a lot of muscle-memory movements that has to be learned really young and over a long time. It takes much longer to master than basketball. So it's imperative that you play it as a kid as much as possible. How do you do that in the Philippines, it's impossible.

We got a headstart in baseball and basketball because of our American connection. We lost our lead/advantage in Asia the moment the other countries has had time to outwork us.

Sir Mets,

Definition of What is a Pinoy Pride?

Pinoy Pride stands for Pabibo bibo Pabida bida; False Bravado; Amor Propio

no wonder Philippine Revolution is a disaster because one of the many reason/factor are those( don't want to dwell to much on it really, it's very lengthy if I open up about politics, business and

personal agendas of our forefathers during those early years). "yan lang po muna".

we talk about sports.

those definitions that I mentioned was one of the main reasons why we lost our lead and advantage

"lahat kasi puro Pa pogi, makinis, maporma at madunong during that time trans. bickering and more bickering of the old gens of stakeholders

anyway fast forward.

it's all over the news that the historic Rizal Memorial Baseball Field will have a major renovations alongside those in the Ultra area.

someone mentioned to as well that there's also a new baseball field alongside that New Clark City in Capas, Tarlac

many investors are literally salivating in that humongous area because of it's very vast open spaces

I think there's an on-going(?) club tournament amongst those baseball stakeholders

if your a typical backpackers there's still a lot of open spaces in the Southern part in the Mamplasan area besides Brent In'l. School, Canlubang, Batangas and Cavite area

in the provinces like Occ and Oriental Mindoro, Visayas and the mainland of Mindanao

it's all about working hand in hand with the LGU, Private Sectors, PSC and POC thru it's NF of the Sports.

it's never too late to produce our own Shohei moving forward.

now let's talk about Football..

as for the newly elected PFF Pres. well I think after that very controversial issue on former womens manager billionaire Jeff Cheng and some questionable stuff about his kind of leadership

now it's the time to prove us wrong thar his new set of officers had a better visions to uplift and revive the glorious days of Philippine football.

news about this brings new fresh air on all sports loving Filipinos who only wants joy and happiness after a hard day's work thru sports.

"napakasarap manood at magbasa anything about Philippine Sports if the show and the narrative is all about "The Philippine team is now the top seed after dethroning the reigning top seeded teams".

let's make it happen.."libre lang mangarap".

“The PFF aims to produce young talents who are highly skilled ball masters,” John Gutierrez, who’ll mark his first year as PFF president next month.

“With this foundation, these young talents will be ready for team activities and can be honed by coaches towards becoming competitive players who can eventually play for the national pool,” he said.

Philippine football made a historic breakthrough when national women’s team, known as Filipinas, made its debut in the FIFA Women’s World Cup last year in New Zealand, and years ago, the men’s squad, or the Azkals, made an impact in Southeast Asian play thus trumpeting the country as a football force in the region and in the world.

Yet the long haul tops Gutierrez’ totem pole of priorities with emphasis on the grassroots – specifically the Filipino family.

“It all starts at home, with the family, Dad and Mom encouraging the kids to do football,” Gutierrez said. “Fast forward and we have a mass base of potential talent ripe for the national team program.”

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https://www.philstar.com/sports/2024/10/15/2392519/pff-goes-deep-grassroots-family

 

[paolylo2]

Sir Mets,

Definition of What is a Pinoy Pride?

Pinoy Pride stands for Pabibo bibo Pabida bida; False Bravado; Amor Propio

no wonder Philippine Revolution is a disaster because one of the many reason/factor are those( don't want to dwell to much on it really, it's very lengthy if I open up about politics, business and

personal agendas of our forefathers during those early years). "yan lang po muna".

we talk about sports.

those definitions that I mentioned was one of the main reasons why we lost our lead and advantage

"lahat kasi puro Pa pogi, makinis, maporma at madunong during that time trans. bickering and more bickering of the old gens of stakeholders

anyway fast forward.

it's all over the news that the historic Rizal Memorial Baseball Field will have a major renovations alongside those in the Ultra area.

someone mentioned to as well that there's also a new baseball field alongside that New Clark City in Capas, Tarlac

many investors are literally salivating in that humongous area because of it's very vast open spaces

I think there's an on-going(?) club tournament amongst those baseball stakeholders

if your a typical backpackers there's still a lot of open spaces in the Southern part in the Mamplasan area besides Brent In'l. School, Canlubang, Batangas and Cavite area

in the provinces like Occ and Oriental Mindoro, Visayas and the mainland of Mindanao

it's all about working hand in hand with the LGU, Private Sectors, PSC and POC thru it's NF of the Sports.

it's never too late to produce our own Shohei moving forward.

now let's talk about Football..

as for the newly elected PFF Pres. well I think after that very controversial issue on former womens manager billionaire Jeff Cheng and some questionable stuff about his kind of leadership

now it's the time to prove us wrong thar his new set of officers had a better visions to uplift and revive the glorious days of Philippine football.

news about this brings new fresh air on all sports loving Filipinos who only wants joy and happiness after a hard day's work thru sports.

"napakasarap manood at magbasa anything about Philippine Sports if the show and the narrative is all about "The Philippine team is now the top seed after dethroning the reigning top seeded teams".

let's make it happen.."libre lang mangarap".


​

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2024/10/15/2392519/pff-goes-deep-grassroots-family

Woah slow down.

Football here is quite bizarre. This Philippine team that just played in Thailand doesn't look like a bottom 30% FIFA international squad that they are... at times they looked like an upper 35% squad.

We've had capable players abroad for the past 15 years but the level drops when the pa-sosyal keyboard warriors who don't even watch the PFL and are oblivious to the actual level of our local football insist on developing grassrots (which the PFF has done since football became a thing in 2010), see a national team of homegrown players play, but are in denial of the results that putting in team of homegrown guys from the PFL that the federation developed all the way from ASEAN U16 'til they played as "ADT"... is still lightyears behind Fil-Foreign players who went to a football academy in Europe, Japan or even the US (punyeta) and have more experience at the lower levels and are signed professionals.

Sure, we can point to a Sandro Reyes... but he's just one out of eleven at the end of the day. Football is just at a significant cultural disadvantage in the Philippines because it's not a viable career unless they get signed by bigger clubs where people actually watch. It's really painful to see Kaya FC blowout a team of semi pros 13-0 here then lose 0-7 in Thailand because some homegrown players from here actually deserve to be recognized but never will just 'coz no one watches their games.

The women are still on that high trajectory because no one has demanded to rush "grassroots" just like people did to the men... but unlike the men, they've had those local talents that didn't come from the suburban scene and just dominate women college teams so it's just a matter of them getting on the Filipinas squad on their own merit.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

off-tpoic:

I'm so biased here because I'm playing the game more on a recreational side with some friendly be__ing as the other motivation.

I'm just being real and straight

if their is one sports discipline that I think we could be a force to reckon with moving forward

is the board game of Chess

even though it's not yet an Olympic sports just like Billiards, Bowling and Obstacle Race wherein we Filipinos are the elite and dangerous

I would say we could produce young players in the same breath as Gary Kasparov, Bobby Fisher, Anatoly Karpov and Magnus Carlsen

because we Filipinos had the DNA to play the sports on the elite level

therefore we could produce a lot of Super Grandmasters if the PSC could provide a more funds to bring them on a every elite tournament out there

specifically in Europe wherein the best of the best dwells.

yes travelling in Europe nowadays are very very expensive but if the purpose and aspiration is to expose our kids to become an elite to the discipline moving forward

then "it is what it is" Investing in Youth Sports is very essential in Nation Building.

we could tap some private sponsors, LGU's who also are also fanboy and fangirl of the sports and mind you there's a lot of them really.

forget Wesley So, it's all in the past now and we cannot rewind those bitterness he experienced

we could produce more better version of him

and for that both Daniel Quizon and Ruelle Canino caught my attention

our sports leaders should invest on those kids "Malupit maglaro and halos walang tapon".

actually there's a lot more and I was amazed but those two are spearheading the future of Philippine Chess.

The Lady Baby Tamaraw delivered a stellar performance at the FIDE Chess Olympiad last month in Budapest, Hungary, scoring six points in eight rounds and dropping only one game.

Canino’s efforts helped the Philippines secure its first-ever gold medal in Category B of the tournament.

Canino, who hails from Cagayan de Oro City, was the youngest member of the team and the only one without a master title.

Despite this, she played like a seasoned professional, gaining a significant 102-point boost to her FIDE rating, with a tournament performance rating of 2245.

Her Woman International Master-level performance earned her the Woman FIDE Master title at just 16 years old.

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https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/...k-meeting-chess-idols-at-fide-olympiad/316577

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

Woah slow down.

Football here is quite bizarre. This Philippine team that just played in Thailand doesn't look like a bottom 30% FIFA international squad that they are... at times they looked like an upper 35% squad.

We've had capable players abroad for the past 15 years but the level drops when the pa-sosyal keyboard warriors who don't even watch the PFL and are oblivious to the actual level of our local football insist on developing grassrots (which the PFF has done since football became a thing in 2010), see a national team of homegrown players play, but are in denial of the results that putting in team of homegrown guys from the PFL that the federation developed all the way from ASEAN U16 'til they played as "ADT"... is still lightyears behind Fil-Foreign players who went to a football academy in Europe, Japan or even the US (punyeta) and have more experience at the lower levels and are signed professionals.

Sure, we can point to a Sandro Reyes... but he's just one out of eleven at the end of the day. Football is just at a significant cultural disadvantage in the Philippines because it's not a viable career unless they get signed by bigger clubs where people actually watch. It's really painful to see Kaya FC blowout a team of semi pros 13-0 here then lose 0-7 in Thailand because some homegrown players from here actually deserve to be recognized but never will just 'coz no one watches their games.

The women are still on that high trajectory because no one has demanded to rush "grassroots" just like people did to the men... but unlike the men, they've had those local talents that didn't come from the suburban scene and just dominate women college teams so it's just a matter of them getting on the Filipinas squad on their own merit.

Good Day Sir Pau,

Yup I totally agree on you on this

to be honest with you my impression is that "Philippine Mens Football is an enigma".

sometimes they play above their current rankings but most of the time they play below expectations

I think one of the many factor is that coaches they come and go..same with players

majority of the core players came from different backyards with limited time to jell therefore no actual continuity moving forward

because of that PFF decided to put more premium on Grassroot Development and establish strong domestic exposure

as you said, after that 2010 Hanoi thing then thru PFL afterwards thru ADT

all the while I thought 2019 SEA Games composed mostly of young guns from ADT would be a jumpstart for something good for PH Mens Football

but unfortunately, Covid envelopes us and wipeout all the momentum we are slowly building up

I like that ADT program, I think that's the right path with Sandro Reyes, Jarvey Gayoso, Dennis Chung, Andres Aldeguer, Pochol Bugas, Christian Rontini, Oskari Kekkonen, those Tuloy FC kids, FEU kids etc. etc

so many to mention I forgot and my impression to those lads, well they could be the future of the Azkals not yet elite on the same level as Phil Younghusband of 2009, 2010 to 2015 version.(for me that's his peak) and Schrocky.

I think to able to be consistent and became an elite moving forward they should hire a Bundesliga type of a skill coach to train our kids or those skill coach trainer from Japan Football

and PFF should not rush things

it's really hard to explain everything here with limited spaces

I'm not a football techy type of a fan but I do watch a whole game if I had an opportunity

for now mostly on live TV and internet links...on the actual game at the pitch very very rare now bec. of work,time and distance of the venues.

as for our Womens Team, well the good thing their system is already in place despite the backing out of the previous Billionaire Manager

the new PFF management should really do their darn best because they had a big chip on their shoulders.

 

[paolylo2]

Good Day Sir Pau,

Yup I totally agree on you on this

to be honest with you my impression is that "Philippine Mens Football is an enigma".

sometimes they play above their current rankings but most of the time they play below expectations

I think one of the many factor is that coaches they come and go..same with players

majority of the core players came from different backyards with limited time to jell therefore no actual continuity moving forward

because of that PFF decided to put more premium on Grassroot Development and establish strong domestic exposure

as you said, after that 2010 Hanoi thing then thru PFL afterwards thru ADT

all the while I thought 2019 SEA Games composed mostly of young guns from ADT would be a jumpstart for something good for PH Mens Football

but unfortunately, Covid envelopes us and wipeout all the momentum we are slowly building up

I like that ADT program, I think that's the right path with Sandro Reyes, Jarvey Gayoso, Dennis Chung, Andres Aldeguer, Pochol Bugas, Christian Rontini, Oskari Kekkonen, those Tuloy FC kids, FEU kids etc. etc

so many to mention I forgot and my impression to those lads, well they could be the future of the Azkals not yet elite on the same level as Phil Younghusband of 2009, 2010 to 2015 version.(for me that's his peak) and Schrocky.

I think to able to be consistent and became an elite moving forward they should hire a Bundesliga type of a skill coach to train our kids or those skill coach trainer from Japan Football

and PFF should not rush things

it's really hard to explain everything here with limited spaces

I'm not a football techy type of a fan but I do watch a whole game if I had an opportunity

for now mostly on live TV and internet links...on the actual game at the pitch very very rare now bec. of work,time and distance of the venues.

as for our Womens Team, well the good thing their system is already in place despite the backing out of the previous Billionaire Manager

the new PFF management should really do their darn best because they had a big chip on their shoulders.

I don't expect a World Cup appearance in this lifetime because it's so unlikely given the disadvantages in our sporting culture, but whatever the PFF was doing in the early 2010's got replicated in the women's game years later and it earned them a World Cup spot plus all the well-deserved hype that came after... and there were less of the epals who dare question our women's Pinay identity because the Azkals took the blunt of the bs years before.

It's too much to ask for another Sandro Reyes as far as grassroots, but the way to go for now is what guys like Deyto did along with Aguinaldo in Thailand and now Gayoso and Bugas in Cambodia. Homegrown players signing contracts abroad when it used to be exclusively a Fil-Foreign thing.

The PFL clubs can't do any more to put butts on seats and maybe bigger sponsors along the way if people are more likely to consume basketball and volleyball content. But the hope is that as more local players are getting better abroad, PFL clubs can pay its football players as well as volleyball or even basketball players so that those who went to football schools here and got scholarships to play in college can consider a pro career and slowly build the local game. It goes without saying that supporters should do their part and actually watch their games when they can and not just the national team when they're winning.

 

[Metta2]

Woah slow down.

Football here is quite bizarre. This Philippine team that just played in Thailand doesn't look like a bottom 30% FIFA international squad that they are... at times they looked like an upper 35% squad.

We've had capable players abroad for the past 15 years but the level drops when the pa-sosyal keyboard warriors who don't even watch the PFL and are oblivious to the actual level of our local football insist on developing grassrots (which the PFF has done since football became a thing in 2010), see a national team of homegrown players play, but are in denial of the results that putting in team of homegrown guys from the PFL that the federation developed all the way from ASEAN U16 'til they played as "ADT"... is still lightyears behind Fil-Foreign players who went to a football academy in Europe, Japan or even the US (punyeta) and have more experience at the lower levels and are signed professionals.

Sure, we can point to a Sandro Reyes... but he's just one out of eleven at the end of the day. Football is just at a significant cultural disadvantage in the Philippines because it's not a viable career unless they get signed by bigger clubs where people actually watch. It's really painful to see Kaya FC blowout a team of semi pros 13-0 here then lose 0-7 in Thailand because some homegrown players from here actually deserve to be recognized but never will just 'coz no one watches their games.

The women are still on that high trajectory because no one has demanded to rush "grassroots" just like people did to the men... but unlike the men, they've had those local talents that didn't come from the suburban scene and just dominate women college teams so it's just a matter of them getting on the Filipinas squad on their own merit.

We have to be clear when we say Grassroots and Homegrown. I agree that homegrowns should not be included in national teams just for the sake of having homegrowns, but grassroots development is a different matter. We can never go wrong in uplifting the conditions of our grassroots development (as in kids).

We've had a lengthy discussion here about people clamoring for a pro/semi-pro women's basketball league, and that is my exact sentiment...just like in the futbol league, it's going nowhere unless there's been considerable development in the youth grassroots level (and not just towards player development, but fan development/sport popularity as well). It's a breeding ground for mediocrity. It's similar to including homegrowns in the Azkals team, "hinog sa pilit." And if producing world-level homegrowns is the goal, they would be better off making it their goal to play in overseas pro leagues from the very beginning like Sandro et al.

The quickest most efficient way for our homegrowns to be world-level is to aspire to play overseas as soon as possible (local environment just won't cut it). But by definition of homegrown, they start out inside the country so there's no going around it, we have to provide an adequate training environment for kids. Sandro is the template.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

We have to be clear when we say Grassroots and Homegrown. I agree that homegrowns should not be included in national teams just for the sake of having homegrowns, but grassroots development is a different matter. We can never go wrong in uplifting the conditions of our grassroots development (as in kids).

We've had a lengthy discussion here about people clamoring for a pro/semi-pro women's basketball league, and that is my exact sentiment...just like in the futbol league, it's going nowhere unless there's been considerable development in the youth grassroots level (and not just towards player development, but fan development/sport popularity as well). It's a breeding ground for mediocrity. It's similar to including homegrowns in the Azkals team, "hinog sa pilit." And if producing world-level homegrowns is the goal, they would be better off making it their goal to play in overseas pro leagues from the very beginning like Sandro et al.

The quickest most efficient way for our homegrowns to be world-level is to aspire to play overseas as soon as possible (local environment just won't cut it). But by definition of homegrown, they start out inside the country so there's no going around it, we have to provide an adequate training environment for kids. Sandro is the template.

Good Day Sir Mets,
cc: Sir Pau,

I forgot to mention on my previous msg.

aside from hiring a world class skill coach who are specifically focus on youth development

I think PFF should collaborate those high profile club teams from Spain, England, Germany, France and even Japan a Training Center

as far as I know, I stand to be corrected on this. those deep pocketed club teams had an out-reach programs

just like in the NBA whom I think had invested a lot in African basketball

we've heard and read news that several overseas club teams conducted seminars and short term training courses every now and then here in the PHI

why not convince them to invest on a long term deal, I think it's a great idea for PFF to do that.

I'm talking about kids here, if they could train them all the best practices of their respective club teams, nurture them in that propose Training Center,

for a possible overseas gig like Bundesliga, EPL among others if those kids are already ripe for the big-time, not the "hinog sa pilit" that you've mentioned

the good intention of the so-called "Farm Team", that's the idea

being a 90's kid I keep on reading sports articles about the nationwide "Coke Go For Goal" on a youth level

now that I am a grown-up I realized that the tournament is noble thing for Philippine Football

but unfortunately, we haven't produce an elite footballers for that until the main sponsors discontinue the program

top level sports facilities are now popping up here and there and several more in the pipeline as per news link just like the recently inaugurated

Rome inspired a Billion funded Sorsogon Sports Complex

also I remember that Milo Best Basketball Clinic unfortunately we haven't produce a world-class baller on that program

I've already mentioned this before in sports in general

it's really high time to those NSA's to hire a really top-notch coaches all over if the aspiration is to compete against the top levels.

if the prospective sponsors e.g. big companies, wealthy individuals or group of people sees that there's an incoming high caliber coaches to train our kids

I don't think convincing them to invest on the program will be that hard.

we can produce more elite athletes along the way.

PSC are entitled for that windfall of Billions nowadays...as per Supreme Court decision

as a fan we should not hold back compared to yesteryears.

 

[paolylo2]

For argument's sake:

Grassroots is the conditions of how a player started until such time that said player is able to progress to higher levels regardless where you place them. Sandro.
Homegrown is basically having a player make it to the professional level without the need to take them away from where they started. Deyto, Amani, Bugas, Gayoso.

We've probably got thousands of 3-year-olds every year enrolled in some form of football class all over the country. How many of them will still be playing by age 10? How many of them will make their school's varsity team or play at a football academy? Let's stop here first because it's at this age where the country as a whole doesn't offer a lot for those who could be good enough to play professionally unless they're handpicked by the PFF to play U16 after seeing dozens of local competitions from Palaro, various inter-regional meets, RIFA and its equivalent in other places if they're still around, and good old scouting in those bigger academies.

If Sandro is the template, he's quite the exeptional one because not every kid will come from the same background and support system that he had growing up. There will be more who will turn pro after graduating from college (some aren't even in college and are either AFP reservists or those Tuloy FC orphans) and I think that's even better than waiting for three more 9-year-old phenoms with rich parents who are supportive of a move to Europe if it's on the table. But this is like the local Philippine football equivalent of 5 playing years in the UAAP/NCAA. So what now?

That's the PFL's problem. I like how the PFF is going back to picking the best available players after COVID forced them to throw PFL players into the fire, but during those FIFA breaks when we don't have a Sandro, Holtmann, or Rublico... sana lang it gets to a point where we see the team sheet and still be confident of getting results regardless if they field an all-PFL squad or our A-team. The way it is right now, these PFL players don't play a lot of matches and aren't even good enough at the ASEAN level.

 

[Metta2]

For argument's sake:

Grassroots is the conditions of how a player started until such time that said player is able to progress to higher levels regardless where you place them. Sandro.
Homegrown is basically having a player make it to the professional level without the need to take them away from where they started. Deyto, Amani, Bugas, Gayoso.

We've probably got thousands of 3-year-olds every year enrolled in some form of football class all over the country. How many of them will still be playing by age 10? How many of them will make their school's varsity team or play at a football academy? Let's stop here first because it's at this age where the country as a whole doesn't offer a lot for those who could be good enough to play professionally unless they're handpicked by the PFF to play U16 after seeing dozens of local competitions from Palaro, various inter-regional meets, RIFA and its equivalent in other places if they're still around, and good old scouting in those bigger academies.

If Sandro is the template, he's quite the exeptional one because not every kid will come from the same background and support system that he had growing up. There will be more who will turn pro after graduating from college (some aren't even in college and are either AFP reservists or those Tuloy FC orphans) and I think that's even better than waiting for three more 9-year-old phenoms with rich parents who are supportive of a move to Europe if it's on the table. But this is like the local Philippine football equivalent of 5 playing years in the UAAP/NCAA. So what now?

That's the PFL's problem. I like how the PFF is going back to picking the best available players after COVID forced them to throw PFL players into the fire, but during those FIFA breaks when we don't have a Sandro, Holtmann, or Rublico... sana lang it gets to a point where we see the team sheet and still be confident of getting results regardless if they field an all-PFL squad or our A-team. The way it is right now, these PFL players don't play a lot of matches and aren't even good enough at the ASEAN level.

Yes for me Sandro is the template in terms of how early he started training right, he's a 1 in a million but that is our reality given our current environment. That's why I said if we want to produce world-level homegrowns, the goal from the very beginning should be to eventually play pro overseas. It's similar to how I advocate for producing homegrown D1 bball players, to be able to achieve that, steps have to be taken from the very beginning.

I often use Gemao as an example. The family is not that rich, but the essential ingredients (to just have a realistic chance to make it to D1 and higher) was put into place right from the beginning. Skills and athleticism training really young, plus constantly playing up levels and now overseas training/competition. Basically, his family provided for him what I consider good "grassroots development" with meager means (scalable). Now, he still has a chance at D1 (would've been done by now if he was 2+ inches taller imo), but even if he doesn't make it, he'll still be a pretty good player for our homegrown standards.

Among those thousands of 3 yr olds, we now have better chances to develop a few more Sandros compared to before. Kids training that early is a recent phenomenon. Just like how basketball skills trainers have recently proliferated and are training kids younger...it is just now starting to reflect where we now have bigs more skilled than previous generations. If you're from an older generation, I'm pretty sure you're aware of how sports training in the country has drastically improved. But it is still miles away from world standard and there is still much room for improvement.

Now having said all of that, given current conditions, better players will still come from those who grew up overseas (just like in basketball). But if we're not going to even try on the home front then what are we even doing.

 

[Metta2]

And to add to richer kids getting a leg up in some sports, it's been the case around the world.

Money has become a gatekeeper to access elite coaches and elite competition in a lot of sports. Just the time and logistics required to produce a top athlete is something unrealistic for average families. The very best prospects still eventually find their way to join, but rich kids get to join from the very start. Bronny is a hyper example.

Locally, this will be more evident in sports like football because unlike basketball, coaching and competition is that much more rare.

 

[Metta2]

For argument's sake:

Grassroots is the conditions of how a player started until such time that said player is able to progress to higher levels regardless where you place them. Sandro.
Homegrown is basically having a player make it to the professional level without the need to take them away from where they started. Deyto, Amani, Bugas, Gayoso.

For me, Gemao, if he makes it to D1, is a Homegrown D1 player. And of course, if he makes it to NBA/Euro/Gleague, etc he is homegrown too. Just like how we can have homegrown youth Euro academy players.

Grassroots for me is age defined, from when an athlete can begin his athletic journey up until high school.

 

[Silent Killer2]

And to add to richer kids getting a leg up in some sports, it's been the case around the world.

Money has become a gatekeeper to access elite coaches and elite competition in a lot of sports. Just the time and logistics required to produce a top athlete is something unrealistic for average families. The very best prospects still eventually find their way to join, but rich kids get to join from the very start. Bronny is a hyper example.

Locally, this will be more evident in sports like football because unlike basketball, coaching and competition is that much more rare.

In tennis, we’re lucky to have alex eala in WTA circuit.. but not all are eala rich to play tennis and trained abroad

now the la liga camp in new clark city attract thousands of kids.. now it’s the question who among them will get invited to spain?

https://www.spin.ph/football/laliga-youth-tournament-kicks-off-in-the-philippines-with-80-teams-from-8-different-countries-a1373-20241018?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20241018-fbnp-football-laliga-youth-tournament-kicks-off-in-the-philippines-with-80-teams-from-8-different-countries-a1373-20241018-fbfirst&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1mYVwa-Xonkbenul54hD88hcRuGJ2uOEG0Jw6czgYU92rxjjmLZ4nrtYo _aem_7p2asxHUKISJsTKbjC8V3g

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

In tennis, we’re lucky to have alex eala in WTA circuit.. but not all are eala rich to play tennis and trained abroad

now the la liga camp in new clark city attrack thousands of kids.. now it’s the question who among them will get invited to spain?

https://www.spin.ph/football/laliga...gYU92rxjjmLZ4nrtYo_aem_7p2asxHUKISJsTKbjC8V3g

Good Day Sir SK,
cc: Sir Mets, Sir Pao

thank you very much for sharing those links

as I said many times before, I felt some sort of joy in my heart everytime I read, watch and heard news

like this, aside from sports facilities, grassroot programs, development, tournaments among others

"nakaka tanggal pagod at stress after a days or weeks work".

we, Filipino sports loving fans badly needed this thing moving forward

I do hope and pray that events like this should be a permanent fixture in Philippine Sports from now on

yes, the possibility that we our kids may or may not get the number of invitees at their home base in Spain for now

is all about "transfer of technology" and Philippine Sports badly needed that."WE NEED TO PLANT SOMETHING".

we already had facilities, Philippine Sports already had the Billions but we need the world class expertise to maximize the Sports talent of each Filipino kids

collaborating with LA LIGA is a good first step

I do hope the PSC, POC thru PFF, some other Government agencies should also work hand in hand to somehow convince with other high profile leagues such

Bundesliga, EPL among others to form such youth leagues like this as part of their charity works like "Football for All" kind of thing

just like the NBA are doing with their "NBA Care", I think they are one of the main stakeholders in that "Basketball without Borders with collab with FIBA

in the continental Africa( I stand to be corrected on this).

surely, private sponsors and companies will pour in once they've saw the main intentions and the people/organizations involved

"Oi!! LA LIGA yan ah, Bundesliga, EPL, NBA, Major League Baseball pala ang involve dyan, let's join the party, surely. our investment are in good hands".

this message of mine seems overwhelming but I think those high profile leagues may somehow buy with that ideas.

as I said "Philippine Sports needs to plant and start on something if the aspiration is to reach the high level.

 

[Artek2]

We should be sending collegiate players to the SEA Games. The senior Gilas team deserves better competition. SEA is non-FIBA bearing so it doesn't matter if the college players lost to the senior teams of other countries. They're a good practice for the young guns

 

[BadEnglish2]

We should be sending collegiate players to the SEA Games. The senior Gilas team deserves better competition. SEA is non-FIBA bearing so it doesn't matter if the college players lost to the senior teams of other countries. They're a good practice for the young guns

I agree with this but can we take a loss? Haha

You know Filpinos Haha

 

[Artek2]

I agree with this but can we take a loss? Haha

You know Filipinos Haha

It won't hurt for college or high school kids to lose to the senior teams.of other countries. Focusing the senior team to Southeast Asia is detrimental to our progress

 

[IPC2]

We should be sending collegiate players to the SEA Games. The senior Gilas team deserves better competition. SEA is non-FIBA bearing so it doesn't matter if the college players lost to the senior teams of other countries. They're a good practice for the young guns

I agree with this but can we take a loss? Haha
You know Filpinos Haha

I think we might need to inquire about availability as well. SEA Games next year is on December. That's Finals season in the UAAP and NCAA. Who will we be able to call up?

Now that said, I also think that we should be using our kids for tourneys like the SEA Games. Maybe add 1-3 professional vets for winning.

 

[BadEnglish2]

It won't hurt for college or high school kids to lose to the senior teams.of other countries. Focusing the senior team to Southeast Asia is detrimental to our progress

Yes for development. But would the general public accept it if we lose in SEA? They would crucify the kids online.

My suggestion is to form a team composed of the following.

4 Top College Prospects
2 Top High School Prospects
5 PBA Players
1 Naturalized Player (Kouame)