2025 SEA Games

[carmelo72]

Stephen Holt is legit. He's the type that adjusts his game depending on the quality of his peers. So if you give him say the OQT roster he'd elevate his game and flourish even more.
But because of his age and if we need an emergency NP outside Brownlee, Pringle, Ange and CS, I'd pick Barefield esp if Kai, AJ & JF are all available. Our wings can be handled by committee (Dwight, KQ, Malonzo, Tamayo). Hopefully the Korean league would push Tamayo to work on his physique (ala-Kelly Williams lol)

 

[r1ck2]

All PBA "U30 team" for SEA Games

Guards:
RJ Abarrientos
Sedrick Barefield
Alec Stockton
Schonny Winston

FORWARDS:
William Navarro
Zavier Lucero
Arvin Tolentino
Kenneth Tuffin
Christian David

CENTERS:
Brandon Bates
Justin Arana
Justin Baltazar

 

[IPC2]

All PBA "U30 team" for SEA Games

Guards:
RJ Abarrientos
Sedrick Barefield
Alec Stockton
Schonny Winston

FORWARDS:
William Navarro
Zavier Lucero
Arvin Tolentino
Kenneth Tuffin
Christian David

CENTERS:
Brandon Bates
Justin Arana
Justin Baltazar

This is only if these are the only guys available around 1-2 weeks before the SEA Games. Maybe some better-qualified amateurs can still be there.

As for Arana, he really needs to improve defensively, and he should work on changing his position to the 4 with his 6'7" height in shoes as well as only 6'9" wingspan. Maybe if there's no choice as to the bigs, as in no one else is available.

 

[JAMSKIE2]

This is only if these are the only guys available around 1-2 weeks before the SEA Games. Maybe some better-qualified amateurs can still be there.

As for Arana, he really needs to improve defensively, and he should work on changing his position to the 4 with his 6'7" height in shoes as well as only 6'9" wingspan. Maybe if there's no choice as to the bigs, as in no one else is available.

I think Arana is good to go in the SEA Games level. Kasing height lang nya yung mga sentro ng most SEA teams.

I don't know if Arana has the laterals to play as a legit 4. He also needs to develop at least a mid-range jumper to be able to play the 4.

 

[Silent Killer2]

Find a replacement for kai, edu, kquiam, tamayo, papa dweet because they wont probably available for sea games

See this is what team b can be helpful but coach tim is stubborn

 

[sroth38392]

Find a replacement for kai, edu, kquiam, tamayo, papa dweet because they wont probably available for sea games

See this is what team b can be helpful but coach tim is stubborn

It’s not that hard if you think about it.

The SBP will just use a combination of SMB and GSM players with 3-4 players from other teams.

SMB:
Fajardo
Perez

GSM:
Brownlee
Malonzo
Japeth
Scottie
Abarrientos/Holt

Northport:
Navarro

Meralco:
Newsome

TNT:
Oftana
BGR

non-PBA:
Ange

Also, Bennie’s naturalization should be completed by then, so he could fill in Japeth, Ange, or Junemar’s spot.

I expect Thailand to utilize OCA rules.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

It’s not that hard if you think about it.

The SBP will just use a combination of SMB and GSM players with 3-4 players from other teams.

SMB:
Fajardo
Perez

GSM:
Brownlee
Malonzo
Japeth
Scottie
Abarrientos/Holt

Northport:
Navarro

Meralco:
Newsome

TNT:
Oftana
BGR

non-PBA:
Ange

Also, Bennie’s naturalization should be completed by then, so he could fill in Japeth, Ange, or Junemar’s spot.

I expect Thailand to utilize OCA rules.

Yes, Thailand will use OCA rules, but in 2027, Malaysia will use FIBA rules... So we need to plan in 2027 seagames who will be in the line up minus ineligibles... And why on the hell you didn't pick Felix Lemetti of ROS and Barefield of Blackwater plus UP's QMB and DLSU's Mike Phillips, they should be there... Newsome, Scottie and Perez should not play there, they need a rest plus they are too much in seagames...

 

[sroth38392]

Yes, Thailand will use OCA rules, but in 2027, Malaysia will use FIBA rules... So we need to plan in 2027 seagames who will be in the line up minus ineligibles... And why on the hell you didn't pick Felix Lemetti of ROS and Barefield of Blackwater plus UP's QMB and DLSU's Mike Phillips, they should be there... Newsome, Scottie and Perez should not play there, they need a rest plus they are too much in seagames...

Because it’s CTC and he always prefer players who already know his system.

Also, the SBP is still traumatized by that 2022 SEA games loss to Indonesia. They aren’t taking chances.

Scottie not playing? Lool the guy is en route to play till 40 if he’s healthy enough for as long as CTC is the coach.

I didn’t include QMB and Phillips because their status is still up in the air in 2025.

For all we know, both could opt to play overseas instead of the PBA.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

Because it’s CTC and he always prefer players who already know his system.

Also, the SBP is still traumatized by that 2022 SEA games loss to Indonesia. They aren’t taking chances.

Scottie not playing? Lool the guy is en route to play till 40 if he’s healthy enough for as long as CTC is the coach.

I didn’t include QMB and Phillips because their status is still up in the air in 2025.

For all we know, both could opt to play overseas instead of the PBA.

Seagames is audition for next set of future players for national team.. That 2022 Debacle was once in a blue moon.. Indonesia bring their best possible team while we bring worst possible team.. Also QMB and Phillips can't play overseas since they are FIBA ineligible, so they are not qualified for Asian import in B league while they are also not qualified in KBL as Asian import too..

 

[IPC2]

Because it’s CTC and he always prefer players who already know his system.
Also, the SBP is still traumatized by that 2022 SEA games loss to Indonesia. They aren’t taking chances.

Scottie not playing? Lool the guy is en route to play till 40 if he’s healthy enough for as long as CTC is the coach.

I didn’t include QMB and Phillips because their status is still up in the air in 2025.

For all we know, both could opt to play overseas instead of the PBA.

Seagames is audition for next set of future players for national team.. That 2022 Debacle was once in a blue moon.. Indonesia bring their best possible team while we bring worst possible team.. Also QMB and Phillips can't play overseas since they are FIBA ineligible, so they are not qualified for Asian import in B league while they are also not qualified in KBL as Asian import too..

That 2022 final was winnable. Just that, the only rotation player in that lineup who could actually play defense was Thirdy. Bringing in Tungcab, Navarro, and Lopez could have helped.

Our perimeter defense was bad that game. We allowed Indonesia to shoot 26-55 from the field, 13-31 from 3, and we gave up 25 free throws. Mix of not getting enough defenders in (in fact, everyone who played in that game was a defensive liability, except for Thirdy) and zoning against a team that shot well from 3, and late rotations.

 

[sroth38392]

Seagames is audition for next set of future players for national team.. That 2022 Debacle was once in a blue moon.. Indonesia bring their best possible team while we bring worst possible team.. Also QMB and Phillips can't play overseas since they are FIBA ineligible, so they are not qualified for Asian import in B league while they are also not qualified in KBL as Asian import too..

Except we also had a close call in 2023 where we trailed Indonesia in the semis and Cambo-lifornia beat us in the group stage. ASEAN teams took a page out of our playbook and expect them to abuse the OCA rules in the editions to come.

Losing in the SEA games is bad PR for the SBP. They will not take risks especially with Chualay now at the forefront.

There are other leagues besides the B.League and KBL that also pays higher than the PBA. lolz

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

Except we also had a close call in 2023 where we trailed Indonesia in the semis and Cambo-lifornia beat us in the group stage. ASEAN teams took a page out of our playbook and expect them to abuse the OCA rules in the editions to come.

Losing in the SEA games is bad PR for the SBP. They will not take risks especially with Chualay now at the forefront.

There are other leagues besides the B.League and KBL that also pays higher than the PBA. lolz

Then who? They would rather pay American imports than any Asian imports, unless it's Rui Hachimura or Clarkson... Did you saw Thirdy's 1st game with Dubai? He was benched even it was a pre season game (it is?).. QMB and Phillips are those affected by FIBA eligibility rules.. and they need PBA to continue their residency, Who knows, maybe after 5 years they will be considered as locals in FIBA someday...

 

[reamily2]

RObert yesterday isnt a pre season one, ABA leagiue is the mother league of dubai team (think of ABA as PBA of SMB to euroleagues easl)..

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

RObert yesterday isnt a pre season one, ABA leagiue is the mother league of dubai team (think of ABA as PBA of SMB to euroleagues easl)..

See? I think even Al Dwairi was not used there... Or maybe limited minutes.. and do we think QMB or Phillips will get any slot in foreign leagues as imports? But I do hope guys like Kai, Edu or Ramos can play there.. if we want to increase our top notch players for national team, our best players should play in higher leagues.... Even he's bench player...

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

interestingly, some SEA countries are still lobbying for that "only passport rules" to take advantage, not only on basketball but also on all other discipline, we have to be fully aware that our neighbors are also maximizing the "naturalization thing" to beef up their respective lineup.

on the other, side other members are also lobbying for that "3 years residency" as per OCA policy and that doesn't fit well to those who had athletes who are still in the middle of the naturalization process.

no way FIBA and FIVB strict guidelines will be implemented for now(?) because many will be affected.

that is why, I had the gut feelings that the "only passport rules" will still be implemented by the THA SEA org considering that they also had a large diaspora all over.

as per Com. Dickie, he is proposing for an overseas training on all athletes who will be selected for next year's Thailand Sea Games which is ideal for a short term plans

while they are still in the process of grassroot development spearheaded by the POC on his active NSA's

recently, I've watched a little bit of some age-group swimming competitions and trials for the next batches of Philippine Swimming Team participated by a huge participants

composed of locals and overseas based hafus organized by the newly created Swimming Federation led by our LODI Eric Buhain now a member of House of Rep.

I've seen some kids who had the potential to be an elite Olympic medallist and possibly the GOAT of the sports if only they will be given a world-class coach, financial resources to participate in all high level of competitions as part of exposure and experience.

we already had a world-class olympic size facilities at the New Clark City for our young swimmers

if only the PSC, LGU and Private Sectors works hand in hand, we could be a super power in the swimming competitions because it is in our DNA being a water people and literally we are surrounded by it..

Salt water is the effective way to develop that high octane stamina, strength and speed and the Philippines are super bless for that.

 

[IPC2]

Because it’s CTC and he always prefer players who already know his system.

Also, the SBP is still traumatized by that 2022 SEA games loss to Indonesia. They aren’t taking chances.

Scottie not playing? Lool the guy is en route to play till 40 if he’s healthy enough for as long as CTC is the coach.

I didn’t include QMB and Phillips because their status is still up in the air in 2025.

For all we know, both could opt to play overseas instead of the PBA.

Thing with the players who have played and trained under Cone is, a lot are past 30, and with holes at that.

Here's the list of those outside the current pool who have played and/or trained under Cone:

1985: Ross (ineligible), LA
1986: Castro
1987: Vic Manuel, Pringle (ineligible), Marcio
1988: Abueva, Greg
1989: Tautuaa (ineligible), CStand (ineligible)
1991: Alas
1992: Troy, Terrence, Arthur Dela Cruz, Pogoy, Perkins (ineligible)
1993: Wright, Kiefer
1995: Arvin
1997: Ange (NP)

It's a list of older players. The youngest, Ange, is 26 going 27.

 

[IPC2]

Ideally, we'd use the SEA Games to train our players born 2000 and later, so that we can train our players who can play beyond 2028.

But some of the best players in that range play in Japan or the UAAP, which is an issue this year, since the SEA Games will be in December 2025. In the middle of the B.League and KBL seasons, and it will be the UAAP/NCAA Finals by then.

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

Ideally, we'd use the SEA Games to train our players born 2000 and later, so that we can train our players who can play beyond 2028.

But some of the best players in that range play in Japan or the UAAP, which is an issue this year, since the SEA Games will be in December 2025. In the middle of the B.League and KBL seasons, and it will be the UAAP/NCAA Finals by then.

Sir IPC,

I totally agree on all degree.

our NF should think what is beyond 2028 specifically towards the 2031 to 2035 WC cycle.

realistically, we really cannot rely on the availability of the B. League, KBL and now UAAP/NCAA players because of conflict of schedule

besides, I've already mentioned this before, our so-called A-Team should concentrate more in participating in a more high level tournament

because of so many obvious reasons.

now, the PBA being the leading stakeholder of the National Federation must be the one who could assemble our SEA Games squad.

because our long term plan is to make our ineligibles to get a FIBA exemptions moving forward

the coming SEAG and 2026 AG is a good start for them considering they've already established their domestic connection via PBA.

off-topic:
everytime I've read news about new Sports facilities that will arise and at par with International standard

"yung pagod ko coming from work somehow nababawasan" because it really felt good inside.

this is one sports discipline that I think we could be a super power and we may produce Olympic and World Champions moving forward

A brand-new UCI-standard indoor 250-meter velodrome is on the rise in Tagaytay and is expected to be operational early next year and negotiations with the UCI, including with the international federation’s president, David Lappartient, have started in earnest.

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2024/09/30/2388978/tolentino-pushes-philippine-track-cycling-uci

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

OT: congrats to PHL's men's and women's rugby team won Asian cup division 2 title.. they will be promoted to division 1 next division...


https://www.facebook.com/share/p/8HsuYgZunrUDJEay/

 

[BJ_Reloaded2]

as I said before this is the kind of news that put a smile in my heart after a day's work in the MIS room.

with traffic, pollutions, long lines, heavy rains and flood waters I am literally soaked most of the time along the way.

aside from IAAF and FIFA level facilities, I do hope an MLB level type of facilities will be included in their aspirations.

seriously, playing "the beautiful game on the Diamond", are in the DNA of the brown race

whom was called the "Brown Monkeys" during those days by those cry babies and ill-educated G.I. Joes

because how come our ancestors are so damn good to the sports considering they just fully introduce it

when the last official Batanguenong General surrendered

we were slightly ahead of the Japs as far as H2H are concern during that time

but look now.

anyway, be it good or bad we must be thankful to our Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, English, German, Nordic and American ancestors

because we modern day Filipinos are ain't monkey looking people, in our blood runs the East and the West

the DNA of the Negritos, Indones and Malays are truly strong in our being.

Brown texture is a perfect skin.

“If we want to have international athletes, we need to have international fields, too,” said Audris Romualdez, managing director of E-Sports International Inc., in a media roundtable Wednesday at the Manila Polo Club.

“When we build a field, we have the athletes and owners in mind. That’s our very first goal. We want to have world-class athletes and they will not be born in one day, especially if we don’t give them facilities where they can train. We have committed ourselves to that.”

Also in the event was Anthony Apparailly, executive sports director of Acousto-Scan Asia that specializes in testing, certification and accreditation of sports venues for international tournaments of FIFA, FIBA, ITF and Olympics among the few.

​
https://www.philstar.com/campus/spo...ational-lines-more-football-fields-facilities