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2025 Fiba u16 Asian Championship

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...and this is a big reason why we don't have a lot of elite shooters. World-level shooters shoot hundreds to thousands of shots a day. It will be hard to find anyone who does that in the whole country. It's skills training that doesn't even need a coach. Same thing with dribbling. All the effective dribbling drills are on youtube, one just needs a ball.
 
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Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.[/QUOTE]​

Metta said:
...and this is a big reason why we don't have a lot of elite shooters. World-level shooters shoot hundreds to thousands of shots a day. It will be hard to find anyone who does that in the whole country. It's skills training that doesn't even need a coach. Same thing with dribbling. All the effective dribbling drills are on youtube, one just needs a ball.
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Compressing the 3 conferences of the PBA schedule into 8 months period will do wonders for our local players. It will give them enough time to rest, work out, skill training, and conditioning. It'll separate those who work hard from the bums.
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bluenote49 said:
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Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.
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Compressing the 3 conferences of the PBA schedule into 8 months period will do wonders for our local players. It will give them enough time to rest, work out, skill training, and conditioning. It'll separate those who work hard from the bums.
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They should just go back to the 2 conference format and find a way to maximize viewership in one conference.
 
Metta said:
The thing with skills training is...it is really something that is left to the player to do on his own time (and on his own dime). It is like the amount of time a student studies on his own, the teachers can't mandate everyone to study outside of school hours. It's like if all the schools offered Kumon classes or Singapore Math to all students, the highest-achieving students will then take advanced calculus on their own to stay ahead. Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.

And yes of course, those with the means have an advantage. But it shouldn't be the case anymore, just on youtube alone, all the latest training methods can be learned for free.
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Sir Mets,

exactly.

I just want to emphasize on that "bold" part.

young and old, all of us had different work ethics in life

when we were all studying and now part of the work force

we encountered many people with different philosophy and principle as well

and honestly, during my younger years I used to compare myself to others esp. to those so-called "dreaded batugans".

opps!! sorry man you must not do that, that is why I'm improving myself and not be judgemental because that ain't the biblical way the christian way.

now before I become preachy here, I totally agree about you said about your view on skills training

worth mentioning is about Dwight and that "youtube" thing you mentioned wherein KQuiam is an example.

realistically, it's all about "self motivation" not only in sports but in life in general

for discussion sake,

in a perfect situation, SBP should also(must)invest in skills training program for those kids with potentials

as I said, self motivating type of skills training as Dwight as a perfect example is an ideal example

if the intention is to be "ahead" of the contemporaries

it is really an advantage to a particular NF if they had in-house skills training coach for kids

I stand to be corrected on this, I think USA Basketball had this thing with the intention of

maximizing the potential under their pool aside from their respective session with their respective private coaches
 
Yes, I understand what you're trying to say. I guess the closest to what you're pertaining to is the European model. When it comes to skills training, teams there provide the same as in the US. The biggest difference is the "allotted time" for practice. While in the US youth players practice 3 or more times during the weekdays and then have tournaments in the weekends (with 4 to sometimes more than 8 games in a weekend), Europeans practice the whole week and only play about 1 game a week.

And it's not that what the skills work they're doing is that much more advanced than the US (it's not an issue of skills coach quality), the main difference is again allotted time. If they practice passing, they would practice passing for a whole week. Sometimes one particular pass (let's say bounce pass) for a whole day.

It's a difference in philosophy. In the Philippines, we are more of the American mindset where most people think players get better the more they are playing in actual games.

For me, when it comes to youth players, the European model is much better. As the players get older, that's when practice becomes less important and playing actual games and working on the body becomes just as important.

So in essence, for youth players, there's really no need to get more qualified skills trainers or train coaches to become better coaches. It's more of allot more time towards practice and master skills one at a time. This somehow forces even the youth players with low work ethic to spend more time working on skills.
 
CoJ said:
Expect LA and Chua to stash those U16 recruits @ espana
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Good Day Sir CoJ,

as much as we despise the so-called "Pirates of the Caribbean" in our youth landscape

I think the right move for both coach LA, Grandpa Chualay and coach Gabe

is to set a meeting with all those stake holders in the HS level because that thing

is really an onion

unless they decided that the propose youth pool are compose of overseas hafus

then they could stash all they want

but that's not the case

I think only the likes of James Sanderson, Kainoa Patton, Trey Pinkard, Jordan Mize

had a chance to crack that F12 and the rest will be full-blooded.

we do hope there will be no "jerking around" because as a fan

I am sick and tired of reading and hearing news about certain schools are holding back

because there's a snake in the pit.
 
Id really like Cabagnot to be included so they can coordinate closer with fil-am nation, though cabagnot looks like a good skills coach regardless
 
Joe Yabuki said:
Id really like Cabagnot to be included so they can coordinate closer with fil-am nation, though cabagnot looks like a good skills coach regardless
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Sir Joe,

exactly.

you hit the right button.

him alongside coach Jimmy Alapag and coach Ronnie Magsanoc deserve to be in that bench as well

hmm..just to add a little bit of fantasy thing here

it is also confirmed that coach Byron Scott will guide the Fil-Nation Select team for next year's NBTC/Manila Live Games

and he also mentioned from several newspaper link as well that he is interested to coach here in the PHI specifically in the PBA(?)

having a Team Consultant with that caliber for our boys team??

well Grandpa Chualay of SMB group and Grandpa Al P. of the MVP group

playing beautiful music together for quite sometime now

those two empires had so many excess as per yearly gross earnings

the next question is "are they willing to spend wisely?
 
BJ_Reloaded said:
Sir Joe,

exactly.

you hit the right button.

him alongside coach Jimmy Alapag and coach Ronnie Magsanoc deserve to be in that bench as well

hmm..just to add a little bit of fantasy thing here

it is also confirmed that coach Byron Scott will guide the Fil-Nation Select team for next year's NBTC/Manila Live Games

and he also mentioned from several newspaper link as well that he is interested to coach here in the PHI specifically in the PBA(?)

having a Team Consultant with that caliber for our boys team??

well Grandpa Chualay of SMB group and Grandpa Al P. of the MVP group

playing beautiful music together for quite sometime now

those two empires had so many excess as per yearly gross earnings

the next question is "are they willing to spend wisely?
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I wonder if Converge will bite, smc has Tim unless they desperately need someone to coach SMB i dont think anyone locally can handle that team right now.
 
So basically, the NGBL tournament that Long Hair and LA established was for LA, as head coach of Batang Gilas, to scout talent further? I guess this was planned a long time ago.
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They gonna have probably have a tall lineup for this team,imagine having a 6'10 and a 7'0 in the middle,I hope the rest of the team will be tall and talented.I would like to see them in the finals against Australia.
 
Actually, I like that they are installing a person under Tim Cone. LA understands the triangle alot. Since these youth players will, one day, take spots in the senior's team, might as well learn the system of the team as early as the youth program.

Hopefully, LA will be able to identify taller players since triangle offense will not be that effective without a legit bigman and a tall wing scorer.
 
ja.he said:
Actually, I like that they are installing a person under Tim Cone. LA understands the triangle alot. Since these youth players will, one day, take spots in the senior's team, might as well learn the system of the team as early as the youth program.

Hopefully, LA will identify taller players since triangle will not be that effective without a legit bigman and a tall wing scorer.
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On the wings, hope we can get tall wing defenders as well. I repeatedly say that the 3 is a key defensive position.
 
ja.he said:
Actually, I like that they are installing a person under Tim Cone. LA understands the triangle alot. Since these youth players will, one day, take spots in the senior's team, might as well learn the system of the team as early as the youth program.

Hopefully, LA will identify taller players since triangle will not be that effective without a legit bigman and a tall wing scorer.
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Tim Cone was on record when he said the NT should be comprised of players tall enough to compete internationally. Which means, 6'5 and above for wings, and 6'9 for the bigs.

If the program director adheres to this plan, which in all indications, he would, he is expected to sync up both Seniors and Youth teams for easier transition.
 
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