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2025 Fiba u16 Asian Championship

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Homer Sayson

The search to replace Josh Reyes as Gilas Youth coach appears to be shallow as a kiddie pool.
One extremely qualified coach was interviewed and then quickly removed from consideration allegedly because he is an outsider, sources told.

A private entity, SBP can choose whatever it wants.

But instead of insisting on selecting from a small carousel of familiar faces, what's the harm in exploring what the big, wide coaching world has to offer?

The brains behind the most successful basketball programs in the are not purely local.

Ginebra. Meralco. Ateneo.

Just a thought.
 
Silent Killer said:
From Twitter

Homer Sayson

The search to replace Josh Reyes as Gilas Youth coach appears to be shallow as a kiddie pool.
One extremely qualified coach was interviewed and then quickly removed from consideration allegedly because he is an outsider, sources told.

A private entity, SBP can choose whatever it wants.

But instead of insisting on selecting from a small carousel of familiar faces, what's the harm in exploring what the big, wide coaching world has to offer?

The brains behind the most successful basketball programs in the are not purely local.

Ginebra. Meralco. Ateneo.

Just a thought.
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I think they have to find a sufficient backer first before they find a coach. A lot of the problems can be fixed by a good backer.
 
Sikatrix said:
I think they have to find a sufficient backer first before they find a coach. A lot of the problems can be fixed by a good backer.
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The SMC already handles the SBP now right? or just the seniors? I mean the SMC is a backer itself.
 
Youth basketball can be abit of a fruitless endeavour, of course its important to expose our youth to international competition but theres no certainty if these kids will be able to develop as senior players. Not saying we should give up the endeavour but I understand the apprehension from stakeholders.
 
Joe Yabuki said:
Youth basketball can be abit of a fruitless endeavour, of course its important to expose our youth to international competition but theres no certainty if these kids will be able to develop as senior players. Not saying we should give up the endeavour but I understand the apprehension from stakeholders.
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Talent fluctuates as well every batch, Kai’s generation was a really good batch with size and talent. Caelum, Konov, Bayla generation wasn’t bad but didn’t have a next level talent like Kai, if Yuto Kawashima didn’t exist they could have gone to the World Cup. And the most recent batches have only had 1 or 2 guys that are really talented
 
I want Rajko Toroman to Coach our u16 and u18 .. I'm watching the MPBL playoffs right now Pampanga versus San Juan and I saw Troman bring a Serbian trainer to help the Pampanga Delta. I like what Dennis Pineda doing bringing Serbian trainer to help the Kampangan.
 
onggok said:
I want Rajko Toroman to Coach our u16 and u18 .. I'm watching the MPBL playoffs right now Pampanga versus San Juan and I saw Troman bring a Serbian trainer to help the Pampanga Delta. I like what Dennis Pineda doing bringing Serbian trainer to help the Kampangan.
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Conflict of interest. Toroman is under the payroll of SGA and Delta. And we all know which schools SGA and Delta support.
 
there are 2 dilemmas of a narrative that's bugging the ill-fated Gilas-under boys team.

the Pirates of the Caribbean storyline of now Cong. Franz and coach Eric Altamirano of then NU program

then the Sandy Arespacho's stint where the so-called "The Loose Cannon bros." was coined and overwhelmed

the "Generalizational Talent" storyline at that time.

then enter the "Dayunyur" storyline wherein my tears literally falls without notice when our hapless "it it kids" was

literally bulldozed by the other lads and resulted to that historic blowout games.

that is why fans like me coined the "Never Again" storyline.

now, the previously "Open Secret" discussion on lack of financial support and lukewarm treatment of the stakeholders

on the boy's program is now really "Open" excluding the "Secret" word.

many people are clamoring that a foreign coach with a competitive resume as far as youth basketball is the first order of things

to start the "Year Right" and somehow starts the new program on the right foundation.

now it boils down again to that "show me the money" thing and the Grandpas are not that enthusiastic on that

because "The Gilas Senior Mens Team" is the very top priority no questions ask.

names like Sean Chambers, Jimmy Alapag, Alex Compton, Ronnie Magsanoc, Tab Baldwin, Rajko Toroman among others

keeps on popping nowadays.

now let the new ED decides on everything about the boys program

because she admits issues like this makes here literally(sticky) sweat just like the previous issues when DDO Sr. stepdown

after that very very forgettable "WC 2023 experience".
 
there are 2 dilemmas of a narrative that's bugging the ill-fated Gilas-under boys team.

the Pirates of the Caribbean storyline of now Cong. Franz and coach Eric Altamirano of then NU program

then the Sandy Arespacho's stint where the so-called "The Loose Cannon bros." was coined and overwhelmed

the "Generalizational Talent" storyline at that time.

then enter the "Dayunyur" storyline wherein my tears literally falls without notice when our hapless "it it kids" was

literally bulldozed by the other lads and resulted to that historic blowout games.

that is why fans like me coined the "Never Again" storyline.

now, the previously "Open Secret" discussion on lack of financial support and lukewarm treatment of the stakeholders

on the boy's program is now really "Open" excluding the "Secret" word.

many people are clamoring that a foreign coach with a competitive resume as far as youth basketball is the first order of things

to start the "Year Right" and somehow starts the new program on the right foundation.

now it boils down again to that "show me the money" thing and the Grandpas are not that enthusiastic on that

because "The Gilas Senior Mens Team" is the very top priority no questions ask.

names like Sean Chambers, Jimmy Alapag, Alex Compton, Ronnie Magsanoc, Tab Baldwin, Rajko Toroman among others

keeps on popping nowadays.

now let the new ED decides on everything about the boys program

because she admits issues like this makes here literally(sticky) sweat just like the previous issues when DDO Sr. stepdown

after that very very forgettable "WC 2023 experience".​
 
Tenorio should take over so there will be synergy between the youth and senior teams. And he won't be having problems with money since he is an Alfrancis man.
 
Already,they're dubbing the next year's team as the second tallest ever,might have a 6'11 or 7'0 next year,but talent wise,it's not as talented as the Kai and Co years.
 
ARMIR said:
Already,they're dubbing the next year's team as the second tallest ever,might have a 6'11 or 7'0 next year,but talent wise,it's not as talented as the Kai and Co years.
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Who might that 6'11"/7'0" player be next year? With so many avid Gilas fans, we should have an idea of who he is by now. Maybe he's already been featured on Zero Buckets. Unless, of course, the SBP is keeping him a secret to prevent opponents from getting wind of him.
 
I stand to be corrected on this.

one thing I've been observing, even during the BAP days

that the NF of sports are not into the so-called "Skills Training on all kids identified by their respective scouts".

rather they are more(?) focus on the "Coaching Seminars to those who are aspiring to become a basketball coach someday".

I haven't read nor heard that the previous and the latest NF are venturing(on a long term basis) into the Skills Training stuff to those identified and discovered.

the thing that I've seen so far is when they are opening or conducting a "Basketball Training Seminars on a particular region

sessions with the kids are just for a limited time only because after the seminar "it's now your thing".

lucky to those kids who had parents that can afford to hire a skills coach and unfortunate to those talented but impoverished kids

if Sir Metta reads this he knows what I'm talking about.

I do hope it's high time to SBP to somehow focus more on the skills training stuff esp. to those kids with potentials but lack many resources

I remember the statement of CCR before when Sta. Lucia drafted the Machine Gun/Rasengan Kelly

"Ako ang nagsaing pero iba ang kumain". I think he is referring also to JDV, JWash and Gabe as well

allegedly(?) he is the one who discovered those hafus before when he still shopping around at Uncle Sam's backyard before

luckily nowadays they already had some collaboration with Filam Nation Select and several Filipino organization thru the recently concluded "Las Vegas Camp"

whom I think will now be on a yearly basis in preparation as well to the annual NBTC Manila Live Games

I do hope that's not the case at the domestic front because as per Sir Armir "U16 might just have a 7'0 and 6'10 now".

SBP should put up a program and collaborate with the parents, guardians, the schools, the handlers among others

to those who are already identified for further training for future Batang Gilas itinerary.

but then again, money issues keeps on bugging our Youth Team since the time of Adam

when was the last time we've won a medal on a FIBA Asia youth level??

oh dear..

that is why.
 
BJ_Reloaded said:
I stand to be corrected on this.

one thing I've been observing, even during the BAP days

that the NF of sports are not into the so-called "Skills Training on all kids identified by their respective scouts".

rather they are more(?) focus on the "Coaching Seminars to those who are aspiring to become a basketball coach someday".

I haven't read nor heard that the previous and the latest NF are venturing(on a long term basis) into the Skills Training stuff to those identified and discovered.

the thing that I've seen so far is when they are opening or conducting a "Basketball Training Seminars on a particular region

sessions with the kids are just for a limited time only because after the seminar "it's now your thing".

lucky to those kids who had parents that can afford to hire a skills coach and unfortunate to those talented but impoverished kids

if Sir Metta reads this he knows what I'm talking about.
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The thing with skills training is...it is really something that is left to the player to do on his own time (and on his own dime). It is like the amount of time a student studies on his own, the teachers can't mandate everyone to study outside of school hours. It's like if all the schools offered Kumon classes or Singapore Math to all students, the highest-achieving students will then take advanced calculus on their own to stay ahead. Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.

And yes of course, those with the means have an advantage. But it shouldn't be the case anymore, just on youtube alone, all the latest training methods can be learned for free.
 
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