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2025 Fiba u16 Asian Championship

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live_evil said:
Sir WinningGuy, one piece of advice, never let anyone named Josh Reyes coach your son.
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This is just bad advice. Part of the reason why Bayla and Konov had teams lining up to recruit them is because of there FIBA experience. Teams got to see a ton of film and the kids performing in high leverage situations plus intel on how the kids are as people.
 
Sikatrix said:
This is just bad advice. Part of the reason why Bayla and Konov had teams lining up to recruit them is because of there FIBA experience. Teams got to see a ton of film and the kids performing in high leverage situations plus intel on how the kids are as people.
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I think it was meant to be a joke. At least that's the way I took it.
 
obviously, teams and coaches nowadays preferred 2-way players and can play multiple positions as well.

also if one of the aspiration is to play in FIBA tournaments moving forward, addressing all possible weaknesses is a must

i don't want to use that "10,000 hour" principle that I borrowed on behalf of Sir Metta for this discussion,

because I assumed that the kids are already in the mid-way journey of their basketball career.

it should really starts in the 6,7 and 8 yr. old to reach that elite level/Olympic level

we already learned this as per different interviews to those athletes nowadays.
 
I know this wont happen for many reasons, among which the toxicity surrounding the Josh Reyes coaching spell but my wish for Gilas is to forgo results in favor of allowing the best prospects to enter the Gilas program as early as possible. If that means getting 2-3 kids with zero practice but great pedigree, then go do that. At the end of the day, I want our youth program to be a feeder for the seniors team. I dont want a redux of the Nieto led WC team where a total of zero players are now Gilas prospects.

https://www.fiba.basketball/world/u17/2014/Philippines#|tab=roster
 
Sikatrix said:
This is just bad advice. Part of the reason why Bayla and Konov had teams lining up to recruit them is because of there FIBA experience. Teams got to see a ton of film and the kids performing in high leverage situations plus intel on how the kids are as people.
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Good thing the Father is intelligent enough to know it was meant as a joke. Better take that stick that's stuck up your ass out.
 
live_evil said:
Good thing the Father is intelligent enough to know it was meant as a joke. Better take that stick that's stuck up your ass out.
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Dude youve literally been warned multiple times to stop wishing that Chot Reyes and Al Panlilio would die. Youre a bit of a psycho hence no benefit of the doubt.
 
It will really be nice to read from honest "investigative jounalists" who moonlight as sportswriters as to why joke seyer keeps the youth coaching chair mighty bonded to his as*. Some mysteries are good stories, even as blind items.
 
Sir Sikatrix,

we really do hope that HS games both for boys and girls alongside the 3x3 tourney should be televise in some way to gave us basketball fans an opportunity to watch those kids play on a regular basis because as much as we want to go the venues, we as an ordinary dudes cannot afford it all the time due to the fact that we also had commitments for our respective work places

other socmeds account are good options but watching it on free channels(but with subscription) is still the best thing

dead spots are still a major issue here in PHI esp. if you are assigned in some remote areas

Jr. MPBL use to have live games during weekends @ cha. 98 but for unknown reason it ain't that way this season.

oh dear

that is why.
 
Good thing this promising batch won't be handled by that coach anymore.
 
BJ_Reloaded said:
obviously, teams and coaches nowadays preferred 2-way players and can play multiple positions as well.

also if one of the aspiration is to play in FIBA tournaments moving forward, addressing all possible weaknesses is a must

i don't want to use that "10,000 hour" principle that I borrowed on behalf of Sir Metta for this discussion,

because I assumed that the kids are already in the mid-way journey of their basketball career.

it should really starts in the 6,7 and 8 yr. old to reach that elite level/Olympic level

we already learned this as per different interviews to those athletes nowadays.
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Research "Koshien Baseball" of Japan.

It's the secret of why guys like Shohei Ohtani (now in the conversation of All-time Baseball GOAT and has a $700M contract) is produced and many more Japanese baseball players are now dominating MLB.

Him and guys like Ichiro start as young as 3 and by the time they reach HS, players live military-like lives where practice is about 8 hours a day. They're now implementing a little bit of this into their basketball program.

This is a good case study because the Japanese know that when it comes to size and natural athleticism and abilities they are at a disadvantage...their answer...they will outwork you.

Now contrast that to a country where size and athleticism is rare and yet training is also carefree and no multi-sport youth culture to speak of. Thankfully there are hafus.
 
Metta said:
Research "Koshien Baseball" of Japan.

It's the secret of why guys like Shohei Ohtani (now in the conversation of All-time Baseball GOAT and has a $700M contract) is produced and many more Japanese baseball players are now dominating MLB.

Him and guys like Ichiro start as young as 3 and by the time they reach HS, players live military-like lives where practice is about 8 hours a day. They're now implementing a little bit of this into their basketball program.

This is a good case study because the Japanese know that when it comes to size and natural athleticism and abilities they are at a disadvantage...their answer...they will outwork you.

Now contrast that to a country where size and athleticism is rare and yet training is also carefree and no multi-sport youth culture to speak of. Thankfully there are hafus.
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Sir Mets,

when I watched the Aug. 31, 2024 edition of Power n' Play wherein the PSC Com Dickie was one of the guest

he mentioned that one of the main agenda of the PSC is to focus more on grassroot development and at the same time build and rehabilitate new and old facilities in Rizal Memorial like the Baseball field, Football and Ultra among others. He mentioned that BCDA will transfer the New Clark Sports facilities to the PSC wherein he mentioned that once the turn over are completed they are planning to establish several more facilities intended for training and possible hosting of sports events.

he mentioned about the Batang Pinoy games to be held either by November or December in(as part of) preparation for next year's SEA Games @ THA

he also mentioned that tapping young hafus from all over will continue as part of talent identification both locally and internationally.

once they've identified the possible elite then they will enroll those lads in NAS or National Academy of Sports

Sir Mets, I think the very basic approach to all kids out there to start into sports is to show them like a playground or parlor games approach

I think Japan is very effective on that so-called "military kind of training" because of the culture in my own personal observation.

for us Filipino it's different, I think to avoid being jaded on the sports at the young age, I think that approach is more effective on us "di agad agad napapagod ang mga bata pag maraming kalaro sa playground". we all experience that feeling. "typical na napaka kulit at malikot aged 2,3,4,5,6 and even 7 that's a normal behavior for that age".

now when they a certain age like 9,10, 11 and 12 we will now see who is shaping to become a possible elite

I totally agree on you that because we lack many physical attributes, the key is "we really outwork" them.

Sports is already in the DNA of every Filipinos now it's all about re-ignite that, re-awaken it

gone are the days that we are still being conservative and holding back because "waray kwarta tayo mga dong at day"/ awan te kwarta manong at manang".

but now we are talking about billions of PHP for Philippine sports

we should now aim and focus to become a consistent champion in the SEA, Asian Games and Olympics

we can do it...paging NG, LGU and Private sectors.
 
BJ_Reloaded said:
Sir Mets,

when I watched the Aug. 31, 2024 edition of Power n' Play wherein the PSC Com Dickie was one of the guest

he mentioned that one of the main agenda of the PSC is to focus more on grassroot development and at the same time build and rehabilitate new and old facilities in Rizal Memorial like the Baseball field, Football and Ultra among others. He mentioned that BCDA will transfer the New Clark Sports facilities to the PSC wherein he mentioned that once the turn over are completed they are planning to establish several more facilities intended for training and possible hosting of sports events.

he mentioned about the Batang Pinoy games to be held either by November or December in(as part of) preparation for next year's SEA Games @ THA

he also mentioned that tapping young hafus from all over will continue as part of talent identification both locally and internationally.

once they've identified the possible elite then they will enroll those lads in NAS or National Academy of Sports

Sir Mets, I think the very basic approach to all kids out there to start into sports is to show them like a playground or parlor games approach

I think Japan is very effective on that so-called "military kind of training" because of the culture in my own personal observation.

for us Filipino it's different, I think to avoid being jaded on the sports at the young age, I think that approach is more effective on us "di agad agad napapagod ang mga bata pag maraming kalaro sa playground". we all experience that feeling. "typical na napaka kulit at malikot aged 2,3,4,5,6 and even 7 that's a normal behavior for that age".

now when they a certain age like 9,10, 11 and 12 we will now see who is shaping to become a possible elite

I totally agree on you that because we lack many physical attributes, the key is "we really outwork" them.

Sports is already in the DNA of every Filipinos now it's all about re-ignite that, re-awaken it

gone are the days that we are still being conservative and holding back because "waray kwarta tayo mga dong at day"/ awan te kwarta manong at manang".

but now we are talking about billions of PHP for Philippine sports

we should now aim and focus to become a consistent champion in the SEA, Asian Games and Olympics

we can do it...paging NG, LGU and Private sectors.
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Yes and to add to that, I also think a very regimented approach won't work in basketball. Compared to baseball, basketball needs dynamism and creativity. Baseball is all about repetition (the point of action is always singular) so military-like training works. Japan realizes this too that's why their basketball training is a bit different. However, they implement this in their shooting (thousands of shots a day) where repetition is key and it shows in their game.

But yes, the key concept here is to outwork the competition. At the end of the day, the athletes who work the most become the elite. The US has their own method and so does Europe, but the common denominator for all elites...they all get to that 10,000 hours one way or another.
 
Metta said:
Yes and to add to that, I also think a very regimented approach won't work in basketball. Compared to baseball, basketball needs dynamism and creativity. Baseball is all about repetition (the point of action is always singular) so military-like training works. Japan realizes this too that's why their basketball training is a bit different. However, they implement this in their shooting (thousands of shots a day) where repetition is key and it shows in their game.

But yes, the key concept here is to outwork the competition. At the end of the day, the athletes who work the most become the elite. The US has their own method and so does Europe, but the common denominator for all elites...they all get to that 10,000 hours one way or another.
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Sir Mets,

Personally, it is very important to add more units in the Physical Education subject in the same breath as English and Mathematics on all levels that's my take

we don't want to force kids to fell in love right away into sports, as I said a playground/parlor games atmosphere is very effective to us Filipinos.

children loves to see very colorful things, clowns and visualization, to make them more focus on something...we all experience that kind of behaviour during our kiddie days.

that is why all sports stakeholders should put up a gimmick as part of enticing the typical Filipino parents/guardians and their kids to embrace sports as part of their daily lives.

that is why, facilities is very critical on all barangays it should be nearer to the community, that is why basketball is very much popular to us because the facilities are inside the community

basketball courts must be flexible and should cater other disciplines as well when no one is playing.
 
FEU high school seems have become a factory of young good size players for our Batang Gilas teams.
 
earldeboy said:
I believe he's only around 6'5-6'6. Aside from Carino and Pasinos, another JHS player from FEU who is worth to watch is 6'4 athletic wing Mark Dulin. Too bad he's born-2008 so he's overage for next year's U16.
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I hope Dulin is invited for the U18 in 2026.
 
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