DR will be better than Brazil if their All NBA players will suit up… KAT, Horford, Duarte and Quinones are very tough already… plus they have young sensation Jean Montero… DR beat Argentina already, who the latter beat Brazil in the finals of Americup in their home last year…
Horford, with his age, is highly unlikely to play in their national team. Quinones is a meh. KAT is the real deal there. adding Duarte alone can't change the fortunes for the Dominicans. the Dominicans were already beaten by Puerto Rico with only Tremont Waters (benchwarmer) as their sole NBA player.
Brazil, with or without NBA players, is still a good team. Not even a debate.
honestly there is no way we can win that tournament. Especially Latvia. assuming same core of their WC team plus Porzingis. usual players of the other teams also. if the PBA wants to concentrate to their league for now, give them. maybe college and overseas players will be ideal and set this as learning experience for future tournament. no more JC this time. unless if they want to spend 1M dollars again..Haha.
And, Dwight, Kai, RJ, SJ, Abando, Carl, Lopez, Quiambao, and Ange are FIBA veterans. AJ is capable too. Like sir DAdmiral said, and I echoed that sentiment, we need to use this to build for 2027.
Brazil is also inconsistent bro… they always lose to Argentina… DR beat Argentina even w/o KAT… Argentina beat Brazil in their home court last Americup finals last year w/ all same rosters both teams… so don’t tell Brazil is better because game style of Latin Americans are different… DR can beat Brazil any day…
Where is Argentina now actually? And where is Brazil now?
Which team did not qualify for the World Cup and the Olympics, let alone the OQT?
My point here is Brazil has never disppeared in the World Cup and that's consistency.
Per DR, their team with Horford, Duarte, Quinones and KAT is just a speculation until they play together.
Where is Argentina now actually? And where is Brazil now?
Which team did not qualify for the World Cup and the Olympics, let alone the OQT?
My point here is Brazil has never disppeared in the World Cup and that's consistency.
Per DR, their team with Horford, Duarte, Quinones and KAT is just a speculation until they play together.
But Argentina are better in terms achievement than Brazil all time… If consistency is your basis… Argentina is more consistent since 1980s… Brazil can’t even past 2nd round of any World Cup appearance, plus when was the last time Brazil played in Olympics? The last time they played when they are the host in 2016… they can’t qualify to the Olympics w/o hosting it… is that consistent?
"Brazil can't even past 2nd round of any World Cup appearance"
- Brazil only missed the 2nd once (2006). Imbento ka. Hahaha
- Again, Brazil never missed a World Cup.
"When was the last time Brazil played in Olympics?"
- Brazil last played in the Olympics in 2016 - not so long ago. They made it in 2012 and UK was the host. You talking about?
My point here is Brazil is still one of the top teams in the Americas, regardless of players.
"Brazil can't even past 2nd round of any World Cup appearance"
- Brazil only missed the 2nd once (2006). Imbento ka. Hahaha
- Again, Brazil never missed a World Cup.
"When was the last time Brazil played in Olympics?"
- Brazil last played in the Olympics in 2016 - not so long ago. They made it in 2012 and UK was the host. You talking about?
My point here is Brazil is still one of the top teams in the Americas, regardless of players.
Remember, there are multiple teams right now are very good in basketball today, unlike 10 or 20 years ago… before, maybe 10-12 teams are very good in basketball, Now, I can name 30 or more teams who can beat top tier teams in international basketball… before, 12 teams in Olympics is enough, now I can’t say 12 teams is enough… remember, only one of Luka or Giannis might play in Olympics, they are in the same group playing in Greece.. that means a possible Greece vs Slovenia in the final round of OQT Greece … Spain might be beaten by Bahamas, especially if guys like Hield, Ayton, Gordon and Jones will play their best game in Bahamas uniform… Lithuania might be beaten too if they will be caught off guard by either Italy or Puerto Rico… If you look at the pairings of OQT… the easiest 1st round schedule is only Spain because they are grouped with Lebanon and Angola.. easy 1st round opponents for them, but other groups are tough already… Finland, Bahamas and Poland are tough… all of them deserve to be atleast in 2nd round… NZL, Croatia and Slovenia also tough… Brazil, Montenegro and Cameroon are also tough especially if NBA players of Cameroon will show up…
But still beatable… your point is Brazil is more stronger than the likes of DR or PR even though they not.. and you say they are consistent, Argentina is more consistent than them… since 1980s, Argentina is always at Olympics, they won the gold in 2004… if I do betting, you can’t see Brazil overwhelm favorites… overall, Brazil is in tier B in Americas… the only tier A there is USA and Canada… Brazil, Argentina, DR and PR are all equal strength… they can be beaten each other… Bahamas is also in the conversation within Brazil and Argentina too because of their multiple nba players…
If we really prepare hard, we can win this tournament(mga 2 percent)... hahah hot take..as long as no kp in equation
Now if we form an early core ( coach and young players for 2027 WC) this July for OQT, we have around 80 % chance of making the 2027 WC and maybe a 10 % chance of making 2nd round of WC and making the 2028 Olympics outright as lone Asian Olympic qualifier. Now tell me which is more sensible planning ? this decision does not need to be experimented or proven , as time and time again it is long term planning that works ( period)
Now if we form an early core ( coach and young players for 2027 WC) this July for OQT, we have around 80 % chance of making the 2027 WC and maybe a 10 % chance of making 2nd round of WC and making the 2028 Olympics outright as lone Asian Olympic qualifier. Now tell me which is more sensible planning ? this decision does not need to be experimented or proven , as time and time again it is long term planning that works ( period)
You did not get my point - teams should not rely on certain players.
DR is all about KAT. Take out KAT, DR will take a dip in terms of competitiveness.
When the Golden Generation of Argentina retired, they struggled to stay relevant in recent years.
This is where Brazil is commendable - no letdowns despite of change of guard. I do believe that no one in Asia-Pacific can beat this team except Australia
If we really prepare hard, we can win this tournament(mga 2 percent)... hahah hot take..as long as no kp in equation