2024 FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament

[ja.he2]

Latvia was damaged goods after the PHI loss. They doubted themselves and their system. After they unconvincing win against Cameroon, I thought Brazil will take them out and they did.

Gilas left scars on both Latvia and Georgia. Our defeat against Brazil is just a minor setback and exposes the team of what they need to work out.
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[paliganibossalfrancis2]

Latvia was damaged goods after the PHI loss. They doubted themselves and their system. After they unconvincing win against Cameroon, I thought Brazil will take them out and they did.

Latvia was just too reliant on threes. Also it takes so much time for them to execute their sets just to end up shooting highly contested threes or missing open shots. Not much inside presence as well just a bunch of dirty players. Zagars and Bertans were no better than the NBA guys from Brazil.

 

[paliganibossalfrancis2]

Gilas left scars on both Latvia and Georgia. Our defeat against Brazil is just a minor setback and exposes the team of what they need to work out.
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Kai needs to lift heavier weights and work on his explosiveness. Look at Caboclo he looked like a stick in his Toronto years. Gaining muscle did not slow him down and helped his game immensely. AJ and Kai are fragile AF. Up to now they are project players because they're always injured. They gotta pack some lean muscle, get fast twitch fibers and improve their durability.

 

[OverratedTabBaldwin2]

1GDL. Man... All he needs is opportunity. He's better than all the point guards we've ever had. You heard me right. Better than the Jason Castros, Jimmy Alapags and Terrence Romeos. Imagine him and Schonny manning the point. CJ and Newsome can mentor them on their way out.

Back to 1GDL, that guy is tough. A rare breed. He has that NBA aura that hasn't necessarily translated yet into his game in the pros but put him in Tim's system and you'll see the plethora of options we have with him at 1. I can see him bullying European guards and outsmarting Latino guards. And downright toying with Asian guards.

Him, Robert Bolick and Schonny are bonafide POINTS GUARD. They're Terrence Romeos in 6'1-6'3 frame. Once they're hot, they're hot. And no they're not limited to teardrops and jump stop threes. All of them can shoot off the dribble and drive at will. Let's move Dwight again to 2 and JC at 3, and have these 3 mentioned PGs run the offense.

Agree with everything you say. Love to see 1GDL and Bolick playing for CTC.

 

[reamily2]

Gilas left scars on both Latvia and Georgia. Our defeat against Brazil is just a minor setback and exposes the team of what they need to work out.
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Aco shouldve thank Tim Cone for basketball guidance..

 

[Silent Killer2]

I’m not against B league or KBL but both are low level leagues compare to Europe… Having our players playing in Europe is like we have already borderline NBA players… many big name Europeans who are already settling continue playing in Europe rather than being a bench player in the NBA…

You never give credits on japan's rise in both NT and the league..

The "low level league" you pertaining to is where the the best 2 guard and the best center currently plays.. and look at their improvements on to their game.. and now that "low level league" has the best PG sign a exhibit 10 with memphis. And that low level league just get yuta watanabe..

And the Other "low level league" you're pertaining the 195k guy improved his playmaking and defending and the 6'8 guy from UP will play there for 195k for 2 yrs plus..

You always look down on this asian leagues..

 

[ja.he2]

You never give credits on japan's rise in both NT and the league..

The "low level league" you pertaining to is where the the best 2 guard and the best center currently plays.. and look at their improvements on to their game.. and now that "low level league" has the best PG sign a exhibit 10 with memphis. And that low level league just get yuta watanabe..

And the Other "low level league" you're pertaining the 195k guy improved his playmaking and defending and the 6'8 guy from UP will play there for 195k for 2 yrs plus..

You always look down on this asian leagues..

Dwight and Kai (B.League), Carl (KBL) and Brownlee (IBL) are overseas players now. They were contributors this recently-concluded OQT. I don't get why these leagues are called "low-leagues" when these guys are playing as imports competing against other imports.

 

[Sikatrix2]

Dwight and Kai (B.League), Carl (KBL) and Brownlee (IBL) are overseas players now. They were contributors this recently-concluded OQT. I don't get why these leagues are called "low-leagues" when these guys are playing as imports competing against other imports.

IBL is a low level league. Cmon thats too much.

 

[OverratedTabBaldwin2]

The B. League is the best Asian league at the moment. Even better than the CBA. Individually, B. League players are less athletic than PBA players but they're better shooters and have higher basketball IQ. The average B. League player has better decision-making than the average PBA player, IMHO.

 

[ja.he2]

IBL is a low level league. Cmon thats too much.

That's not the point. I am talking about them being imports in the same vein as those players from other national teams. They are imports because they cut above the rest.

 

[Sikatrix2]

That's not the point. I am talking about them being imports in the same vein as those players from other national teams. They are imports because they cut above the rest.

Even this isn't a proper comparison. Brownlee being an import regardless of nationality while the others are there as asian imports. If that was Barefield or Brickman, who are good enough to be imports regardless of nationality then fair but situations are different obviously. Them not having to compete with products of top basketball countries for their spots being the big one.

 

[deku_midoriya2]

I forgot where I heard or read about this. The best players of each team in Riga are either playing in the NBA or Europe while our top player is playing in Indonesia.

That is how wide the individual talent gap is. If not for system, we would have no business playing in the OQT. At least in the WC we had an NBA player

 

[deku_midoriya2]

The B. League is the best Asian league at the moment. Even better than the CBA. Individually, B. League players are less athletic than PBA players but they're better shooters and have higher basketball IQ. The average B. League player has better decision-making than the average PBA player, IMHO.

Not really, its champion has to win the BCL first. Best organized, yes.

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

IBL is a low level league. Cmon thats too much.

Low level league that beat Iranian and Korean champions last BCL... Hehehehehehehehe...

 

[Giannis34GOD2]

You never give credits on japan's rise in both NT and the league..

The "low level league" you pertaining to is where the the best 2 guard and the best center currently plays.. and look at their improvements on to their game.. and now that "low level league" has the best PG sign a exhibit 10 with memphis. And that low level league just get yuta watanabe..

And the Other "low level league" you're pertaining the 195k guy improved his playmaking and defending and the 6'8 guy from UP will play there for 195k for 2 yrs plus..

You always look down on this asian leagues..

Still low compared to Europe... In Asia, they might be the best league but European leagues are twice or thrice higher competition than any Asian leagues... Caboclo, the MVP of OQT in Riga plays in Partizan , a club from Serbia who plays in Euroleague.... That's how tough Euroleague tournaments are...

 

[reamily2]

So dweet playing for levabga a low level b league was a blessing in disguise as it pushes dweet to be a scorer..we all knew how kai performed with yuki kawamura nad both are in a mid level b league team.. too bad for thirdy san en was good they just faced the eventual champions early

 

[ja.he2]

Even this isn't a proper comparison. Brownlee being an import regardless of nationality while the others are there as asian imports. If that was Barefield or Brickman, who are good enough to be imports regardless of nationality then fair but situations are different obviously. Them not having to compete with products of top basketball countries for their spots being the big one.

Asian import quota is similar to quota set by many European leagues for EU citizens. Same quota set by the Mexican league to South Americans. It is also the same with SRP in NBL.

​​​​​​Asian imports cover atleast 10 countries with Philippines having the most number of them. Same is true with the KBL but Filipino players cover them all. I mean they have a competition in the East Asia and ASEAN but Filipino players are dominating this quota. Tell me if it is not cut above the rest.

Asian leagues may not be European level but an import is still an import and that's the point and still a good first step for every Filipino players aspiring to play overseas. Before we try to go Europe, we need to conquer Asian leagues first.

 

[Sikatrix2]

Asian import quota is similar to quota set by many European leagues for EU citizens. Same quota set by the Mexican league to South Americans. It is also the same with SRP in NBL.

​​​​​​Asian imports cover atleast 10 countries with Philippines having the most number of them. Same is true with the KBL but Filipino players cover them all. I mean they have a competition in the East Asia and ASEAN but Filipino players are dominating this quota. Tell me if it is not cut above the rest.

Asian leagues may not be European level but still an import and that's the point and still a good first step for every Filipino players aspiring to play overseas. Before we try to go Europe, we need to conquer Asian leagues first.

I think if we want to improve, its not about conquering these leagues but rather our youth ending up in D1 programs or the equivalent in Europe/Australia. KBL and BLeague have yet to prove to send talent to the top level and I dont see it anytime soon in the KBL's case.

Also yes we dominate our subregion but that has been the case since you and me were born.

 

[paliganibossalfrancis2]

I think if we want to improve, its not about conquering these leagues but rather our youth ending up in D1 programs or the equivalent in Europe/Australia. KBL and BLeague have yet to prove to send talent to the top level and I dont see it anytime soon in the KBL's case.

Also yes we dominate our subregion but that has been the case since you and me were born.

We have/had bunch of D1 players in Gilas. Lassiter, Lutz, Pringle, Kelly, Ahanmisi, Gabe, Dillinger, Standhardinger, Japeth, Asi, Ross, Dwight, AJ, Kobe, Jamie, Rike... D1 doesn't matter that much in FIBA, it's your professional pedigree. How does the market appraise a player's value in the pro ranks? Pang PBA lang ba or pwede sa mas competitive na league? Sadly a lot of our D1s are international league/NBA rejects.

Plus it's a long shot for our youth to end up in D1 since these programs will always prioritize American citizens, we should rather focus on improving our domestic competition from grassroots to pros. Problem is we get too complacent because tayo tayo lang naman ang naglalaro. Really, Philippine basketball is only for local consumption, too insular. Also be open to players playing overseas if our leagues have no vision on how to increase level of competition. Bleague has done it in a very short amount of time why can't PBA at least try?? PBA has to improve its league. Its marketability and profitability so our players don't leave. Our players are improving because we continue to play but the cream of the crop opt to go outside because of better competition and opportunities. We have to entice them and give them a reason to stay home. If we wanna be the "best league in Asia", PBA needs to market itself as such. Find ways to increase audience locally/internationally and revamp the whole concept of the league. BLeague and NBL's beeen doing this and look at their growth. Astronomical.

 

[ARMIR2]

Yeah… Japeth should be gone for national team.. I respect him and passion to play for national team but he should give way to others… Castro before take early retirement for Gilas in early 2019 before the World Cup even we all know he can still play.. he knows that he needs to give his spot to the younger players and not to rely on him… We have Baltazar as the best replacement for Japeth but he was politicised… Baltazar is a great fit for triangle because he’s like a younger Joe DeVance.. can shoot threes, versatile, agile player and very talented player.. I hope once Baltazar enters the PBA this season then SBP and CTC give him a chance… he’s the first one should be priority for additional players.. Please Japeth, retire now with Gilas… You done your part already…

With Balti,CTC will be confident enough that when he sits AJ,for longer minutes,he has a competent player that he can play combo forward,we just have to convince Long Hair to eat humble pie and extend a hand to his benefactor,who also have other players that can be tapped.