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2023 SEA Games (Cambodia)

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zuma169 said:
IND vs. Gilas will really be a dogfight.. remember they really did everything and prepared so hard to qualify for the World Cup.. plus of course they also prepared for for this as defending champions.. this will really be an entertaining and interesting game...

for as long as we play our game and not eff up, we will win.. that's on chot..
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Indonesia vs Thailand is a must watch game on the tournament... Thailand is more talented on paper but Indonesia are very cohesive unit and more chemistry than Thais... I see a close win by Indons here since some of Thais are only came days only before the tournament, So chemistry will be the issue for Thais in this SEAG....
 
Philippines can beat Cambodia tomorrow, Their bench was shallow and those 6 Naturalized players will be tired after 3rd qtr... They can manage to hang on vs PHL in first 3 qtrs but because of fatigue, they will run out of gas come 4th qtr.... This version of Cambodia team is the same version that we see on Guam national team when they playing FIBA competitions... But the difference is that Guam have better bench players than current Cambodia reinforced by 6 NPs....
 
DAdmiral said:
Of course the blame is on the organizer or SEAG committee, but it's team management responsibility to protect your team from the incompetence of 3rd parties.

It's like a car accident , even if it's the fault of the 3rd party , you aa the driver of your passenger have a responsibility to protect your passenger from the mistakes of the 3rd party.

If 3rd party SEAG committee has a history of incompetence and Cambodia as host has not been tested, a good responsible manager will ensure 1st things are acceptable before deciding to join and risk the safety of the players he is responsible for .

BTW the Reyes family, are good deer freinds , there the last people I would hate . As a professional I just say things as they are , it's actually worst if I'm not honest and don't tell when things they need to address or correct.
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Well, we all know that, But they don't want to be messed up w/ NSAs federation such as POC and PSC... In this event likes of SEAG or Asian Games, It's POC and PSC are higher power than SBP since this is not FIBA sanctioned event... If they decide to pull out their teams, The NSAs is the one who will pay the price for possible heavy fines... Remember when PHL was supposed to withdraw 2018 Asian Games due to lacked of "supposed players"? If not for NSAs who convinced them to return then the they would be fined by OCA to not bring their team to event... POC and PSC doesn't want to pay fines that's why they forced SBP to field any team to atleast have representation to escape fines....
 
Giannis34GOD said:
Well, we all know that, But they don't want to be messed up w/ NSAs federation such as POC and PSC... In this event likes of SEAG or Asian Games, It's POC and PSC are higher power than SBP since this is not FIBA sanctioned event... If they decide to pull out their teams, The NSAs is the one who will pay the price for possible heavy fines... Remember when PHL was supposed to withdraw 2018 Asian Games due to lacked of "supposed players"? If not for NSAs who convinced them to return then the they would be fined by OCA to not bring their team to event... POC and PSC doesn't want to pay fines that's why they forced SBP to field any team to atleast have representation to escape fines....
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Incorrect, of course there are fines if you already confirmed participation and withdraw.
but an NSA and Gilas have the discretion to not accept join participation by informing in advance. For Gilas they also have full discretion on which players to put at risk ( they can send MPBL players to avoid unacceptable conditions).

As discussed clearly here, we all know why Gilas joined at all cost despite risk of poor conditions, obviously it's to redeem reputation.. none other than that. NOW the question is , is it worth putting players at risk for one's redemption of reputation? That's when leadership hard decisions are made.
 
It's the manner at which one addresses the concern (safe conditions ), just privately lodge the complaint in proper channels, (no drama)..

You don't hear other nations going to the press asking for sympathy. As if the the public can do anything.

Again why is sympathy being asked? Hint. reputation. This answeres Chot's question on why are we even here !

Hope people can see things. .
 
I think the SBP was caught off guard by the quality concerns. Plus the SEA Games is also a political exercise, I don't think we can just pack up our bags and leave without political consequences for embarrassing Cambodia.
 
Sikatrix said:
I think the SBP was caught off guard by the quality concerns. Plus the SEA Games is also a political exercise, I don't think we can just pack up our bags and leave without political consequences for embarrassing Cambodia.
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If we packed & leave, people will think that we are scared of a soup up Cambodia team & our traditional SEA rivals Indonesia & Thailand. It would be a cowardly act, people may think.
 
JAMSKIE said:
If we packed & leave, people will think that we are scared of a soup up Cambodia team & our traditional SEA rivals Indonesia & Thailand. It would be a cowardly act, people may think.
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yup it's too late for that.. and because it's too late and you essentially are already at war, you cannot have your leader making comments like why are we here , we should quit or something. ,, you've already crossed the line of no return.. all complaints just do it privately with organizers,, none of these media drama rants
just imagine what the opposition is thinking, here are these guys who don't want to be here and are afraid to play on the the court.. OK..
 
DAdmiral said:
Incorrect, of course there are fines if you already confirmed participation and withdraw.
but an NSA and Gilas have the discretion to not accept join participation by informing in advance. For Gilas they also have full discretion on which players to put at risk ( they can send MPBL players to avoid unacceptable conditions).

As discussed clearly here, we all know why Gilas joined at all cost despite risk of poor conditions, obviously it's to redeem reputation.. none other than that. NOW the question is , is it worth putting players at risk for one's redemption of reputation? That's when leadership hard decisions are made.
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What's incorrect there? They have the right to declined invitation (and you right about that) But my explanation was NSA's (POC & PSC) are the ones who will decide first if they will parade a basketball team in events such as SEAG or Asiad, Then they will talk to country's basketball federation (In PHL it's SBP) If they can parade a team, If not, then NSA can tell SEAG organizers or OCA that they will not send a team, But if have then they will tell them that they will join.. Did you read or understand my post there? Now, if they agree to join then they have to send a team and they can't withdraw unless it's necessary but they have to pay heavy fines...
 
JAMSKIE said:
If we packed & leave, people will think that we are scared of a soup up Cambodia team & our traditional SEA rivals Indonesia & Thailand. It would be a cowardly act, people may think.
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That's the negative impact of Social media to you... If this was happened before social media then they can withdraw participation w/o notice by public...
 
Robert , didn't you just repeat what i just posted... decline invitation or send alternative players in advance after due diligence of situation. that simple...
Once you confirm participation there should be no complaining discussed with the media , for player moral sake .. let management lodge complaints internally , no drama..
 
DAdmiral said:
yup it's too late for that.. and because it's too late and you essentially are already at war, you cannot have your leader making comments like why are we here , we should quit or something. ,, you've already crossed the line of no return.. all complaints just do it privately with organizers,, none of these media drama rants
just imagine what the opposition is thinking, here are these guys who don't want to be here and are afraid to play on the the court.. OK..
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Other countries complained it too, But they have no options.... Cambodian social media pages was flooded with hate message by all of the countries participating... And even Indonesia, Vietnam coaching staff also furious on not good facilities Cambodia has...
 
DAdmiral said:
Robert , didn't you just repeat what i just posted... decline invitation or send alternative players in advance after due diligence of situation. that simple...
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No... you post about hate about Chot, and you blame SBP, But you didn't tell about the consequences until one poster there replied that you just only blame SBP and Chot... In this situation, this is not SBP or Chot's negligence here... Back read your previous post...
 
Again as usual you're not reading i repeatedly said it's too late to withdraw now and there will be fines ( of course as i have said, back read) ,, have also repeatedly said it's the organizers fault.

that doesn't excuse Chot of responsibility for how to respond to the obstacle or address the matter earlier. there are professional appropriate ways of handing faults of others , ranting to media is not one of them, and not knowing the possibility of risk before making the decision is one of them .. basic stuff .. if you only read to comprehend
 
We might see breunig by olympic quailifiers for thailand.. amy not be 6'8 but he is tough.. can play small ball 5..
 
Giannis34GOD said:
That's the negative impact of Social media to you... If this was happened before social media then they can withdraw participation w/o notice by public...
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Bro, prior to the advent of your social media, this would be the tendency of people (to see it as a cowardly act) if ever we pull out of the tournament. Don't ever think that people 25 years ago are much less reactive than people today who have the benefit of social. You talk as if in case we did this thing (pull out of the tournament) 25 years ago (prior to the era social media), it won't be a big deal to the public, Pinoy basketball fans in particular. Hello sir!!! Have U been living in a cave for sometime?
 
When dealt a problem, you come up with solutions, not excuses. The only difference with this floor compared to parquet is it is harder. The slippery part is just the same when both are wet. The gym were renting right now happened to have the same surface so I’m quite familiar.

The one thing players are in control of that coukd mitigate the issue is to pad their feet cushion. A sole pad or an extra sock would do. If they’re worried about slippage, choose shoes with the best traction. Then again this is quite insignificant if you happen to step on a wet spot. Ke vinyl pa yan o tabla, same.

Backing out are for those with defeatist mentality. Remember all the treams play on the same courr.
 
Excited for tonight's game vs. a soup up Cambodia-Africa team. If this is the same Cambodia team from past editions of SEA Games, then I won't bother watching it at all becoz I know Cambodia will have a zero chance of winning & it is going to be a sure massacre.

Hope youngsters Mike Philipps, Mason Amos & Jerom Lastimosa get adequate playing time tonight.
 
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