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2023 Lithuanian NT

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Vucevic,Dublejevic is good matchup for Valanciunas,Motiejunas.

At this point of their career Jonas or Dmo has problem defending fast bigs,not 115-120kg weight montenegro bigs.

Lithuania NT roster want that opponent played 2 real bigs


Valanciunas does well againts Nurkic,Vucevic,Gobert types. Jonas said himself he hates to play vs those small 2m06 athletic,mobile centers


LTU coaches will fear that small american PG way more than Montenegro bigs

Vucevic, Dubljevic and Simonovic can shoot, Nurkić can't. They have different profiles than Nurkić. Valanciunas and Motiejinas are good in post up defense, vs Nurkić for example, but against Montenegro they will have to step out on the perimeter to defend p&p. That doesn't seem good matchup to me.
 
Oh, shit, I posted A. Giedraitis as mediocre scrub...My bad! He's not even close, much better.
 
Andrius Giedraitis was very good, averaged 22 points in NT

Sorry, I'm trying to quit this nasty habbit of feeding the troll
 
Vucevic, Dubljevic and Simonovic can shoot, Nurkić can't. They have different profiles than Nurkić. Valanciunas and Motiejinas are good in post up defense, vs Nurkić for example, but against Montenegro they will have to step out on the perimeter to defend p&p. That doesn't seem good matchup to me.

They can step out,problem is when they step out to control opponnets penetration.

I dont see Vucevic,Dublejevic beating them on speed every time with dribble.It will be 120kg huge dudes foot race im fine with that

Dublejevic,Simonovic played last summer vs Valanciunas,Sabonis. LTU won convincingly when Montenegro played 2 bigs alot


Vucevic will have his hands full trying to hold on Valanciunas in defence too. In 2 games in 2023 nba season

game 1 Valanciunas 21+13 vs Vucevic 18+7
game 2 Valanciunas 22+7 vs Vucevic 14+10



Maybe i dont get something but i dont fair that big matchup at all + i believe ltu even with all those abcenses still will have longer bench.

I fear that little american way more.If Montenegro want to win skilled american must have 20+pts good shooting game
 
Andrius Giedraitis was very good, averaged 22 points in NT

Sorry, I'm trying to quit this nasty habbit of feeding the troll

Oh, you're up for conversation recently, ain't you?

FOA, your permanent neurotic concern with what I'm doing is sad, funny and pathetic at the same time..Your beagle pursuit is so pathetic that it makes you look like a dog who helplessly follows the leader (Stockholm syndrome), which is ironic since you pretend to be a big social justice warrior here. Your problem is that you have inferiority complex thinking that other people constantly challenge and question your capabilities, status, always look down on you, and you just bark back any times sensing a tiniest threat.

SOA, your sense of humor is not any better than your weak analytical thinking. Your humor is the insult to the working class that you represent. It's a dull and blunt and the saddest part that you don't get it. You keep running around with your whiny, touchy, butt-hurt, neurotic victim mentally thinking that others are responsible for your misery and that you can control something with your awkward, short, implicit and inadequate remarks, while all a man can do is to choose the response. Others won't treat your anger, your insecurities, you won't censor and "kill" all your imaginary oppressors and superiors and you won't shutdown all the annoying "others" (Emmanuel Levinas). Only you can deal with your self, developing EQ.

Your attempt to bite is pathetic since it's obvious frustration and anger and all you got is a silly comment. You didn't even get the context of conversation us usual. It was about the players level overall, not their impact to the NT. Slanina, f.e. had 16.6ppg kinda season in EL, but never left deeper footprint in the NT. That doesn't mean that Delininkaitis or Juskevicius were better players than Slanina f.e. Andrius Giedraitis had 13,4ppg EL career numbers and was one of the leaders of super strong Lietuvos Rytas.
 
2008-2023 not single No to LTU NTs

1st all time in rebounds
1st all time in blocks
2nd in made 2pointers
4th in made free throws
7ts in scored points
8th in played games with NT

when he will be done Jonas will be i top5 in most categories in LTU NT history
 
They can step out,problem is when they step out to control opponnets penetration.

I dont see Vucevic,Dublejevic beating them on speed every time with dribble.It will be 120kg huge dudes foot race im fine with that

Dublejevic,Simonovic played last summer vs Valanciunas,Sabonis. LTU won convincingly when Montenegro played 2 bigs alot


Vucevic will have his hands full trying to hold on Valanciunas in defence too. In 2 games in 2023 nba season

game 1 Valanciunas 21+13 vs Vucevic 18+7
game 2 Valanciunas 22+7 vs Vucevic 14+10



Maybe i dont get something but i dont fair that big matchup at all + i believe ltu even with all those abcenses still will have longer bench.

I fear that little american way more.If Montenegro want to win skilled american must have 20+pts good shooting game

If they step out on the perimeter it means they will be switched on smaller guard by simple p&r action if they play switching defense or they will try to recover to their man who is either popping or rolling. If Vucevic is popping it will be hard for Valanciunas or Motuejunas to closeout on him on time because they are not mobile. And you have to stay on smaller guard until your guard recovers and allows you to get back to your man. If you have a guy like Walkup who fights hard through screens and looks to stay with his man, then it makes life easier for slow footed bigs like Valanciunas. But reality is different, Jokubaitis will be defending there so they will be switched against Perry for example or will be forced to cover a lot of ground to closeout on shooting big like Vucevic. However, both Perry and Ivanovic are not known as great passers or p&r wizards, so it might not be that difficult for Lithuanian bigs. Interesting matchup for sure.
 
2008-2023 not single No to LTU NTs

Jokubaitis up to a good start with 2016-2022 and he's 100% in 2023 bar injuries (he never declined a NT once yet, only 2020 was a gap year because of Covid pandemic). Jokubaitis is a new torchbearer and takes it from JV and Kuzminskas. We need more of such breed to set the proper example.

If Marciulionis or Rubstavicius would make senior NT this year, it would be another case when players have direct transition to senior NT and potentially never have "free" summers. Tubelis missed U20.

 
what Jokiubaitis,Valanciunas,Kuzminskas have in common?

They were good kids always never made problems for any coach. Such people usually are loyal and dont search for excuses not to play


When young player already starts not playing for youth NT because he need work on individual shit in summer we can forget such person to be loyal for NT


With such selfish type every summer will be 50/50


From todays main 9 players Valanciunas,Kuzminskas,Jokubaitis,Butkevicius coaches dont need to ask them twice,they gonna travel half world in one day to help NT for one important window game if coach will ask their help and club schedule allows

But with most other top players coaches/federation must show attention again and again if they want to be sure they will come


in 2010s NT had like 6-7 such type,now i see only Jokubaitis,Butkevicius. Jonas and Kuz belongs more to 2010s generation players
 
To me, speaking about next generation, the most important thing will be to have Jokubaitis and Rubstavicius on a constant basis. They have a potential to be like Jasikevicius and Siskauskas were for us in 00s. When you do have those too, you have IQ, aggression, cohesion, leadership. If you have a legit backcourt core - you have a team. Jokubaitis already proves he's one of that kind, and hopefully Rubstavicius is like that too (even though he has plans to visit USA this summer and that my cover reserve NT camp, but long term I think he'll be one of those committed).
Lelevicius, despite skipping U20 last summer (not his age group though), seems to be super proper educated guy and super kind. If we will have these guards loyal we'll be alright. Plenty of fundamentals, IQ, talent and in Rubstavicius and Lelevicius case also defense too.
 
USA nearly finalized their roster. I think Haliburton, Edwards, Banchero, Bridges may be their main guys. Most of the guys will have issues to adjust to fiba half court offense, IMO. A lot will depend on their shooting. Haliburton, Reaves shooting 40% in NBA. Some others are solid shooters, but no deadly shooters us Curry obviously. For our perimeter guys it will be hard to defend, cause Haliburton and Bgridges have super long wingspans. Also looking at JV's number versus Grizzlies it's not nice (JJJ as the opponent) - 2, 4, 6, 4 points games this season...Maybe because of Grizzlies game style overall hopefully. Against other big man Kessler JV also did not too well - 6, 15, 6 points games. Both terrific shot blockers. But essentially JV is much bigger and stronger than both. NT obviously will emphasize JV's presence so maybe he can establish certain domination down low. Banchero should be held by Sedekerskis. He's still young so not necessary will go off big time. It's hard to say where Lithuania's best chances. Maybe playing perfect pick and roll offensively and scoring in the post. Obviously the goal is to slow the game down as possible. Don't see us winning, but under certain conditions we may have an interesting game.
 
USA nearly finalized their roster. I think Haliburton, Edwards, Banchero, Bridges may be their main guys. Most of the guys will have issues to adjust to fiba half court offense, IMO. A lot will depend on their shooting. Haliburton, Reaves shooting 40% in NBA. Some others are solid shooters, but no deadly shooters us Curry obviously. For our perimeter guys it will be hard to defend, cause Haliburton and Bgridges have super long wingspans. Also looking at JV's number versus Grizzlies it's not nice (JJJ as the opponent) - 2, 4, 6, 4 points games this season...Maybe because of Grizzlies game style overall hopefully. Against other big man Kessler JV also did not too well - 6, 15, 6 points games. Both terrific shot blockers. But essentially JV is much bigger and stronger than both. NT obviously will emphasize JV's presence so maybe he can establish certain domination down low. Banchero should be held by Sedekerskis. He's still young so not necessary will go off big time. It's hard to say where Lithuania's best chances. Maybe playing perfect pick and roll offensively and scoring in the post. Obviously the goal is to slow the game down as possible. Don't see us winning, but under certain conditions we may have an interesting game.

Banchero and Italy are the funniest story of the recent NT history. :D

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My prediction is best usa 2023 player will be Brunson

That dude skillset is perfect for fiba ale P.Mills type

He is matured dude 26 years old and comming after fantastic nba playoofs 2023 as nr 1 guy of top 8 team.


If im not mistaken Brunson was mvp of one of the fiba youth tournaments .So adjusting for fiba for him will be easier
 
Can’t argue with that. Everything you mentioned about Brunson is true including he’s got a man’s body. I think Mikal Bridges will open many eyes and I think Anthony Edwards fits the previous FIBA/USA Worlds profile of 21-22 year old LeBron ‘06, Durant ‘10, Anthony Davis ‘14 and Jayson Tatum ‘19 (injured early in tournament) as an extremely talented young star that is ready to breakout .He’s that good.
 
Butkevicius is injured and is out too


Lekavicius,Grigonis,Giedraitis,Butkevicius,Ulanova s,Gudaitis,Sabonis 6 euroleague players and 1 nba player OUT


Jokubaitis,Brazdeikis,Dimsa,Sedekerskis,Dmo,Valanc iunas 5 euroleague and 1 nba player IN



Balciunas again gonna come and talk his nonsenses how younger and more hungry players will replace 6 out of top 10 curent best ltu players and NT will fight for highest positions :cool:
 
Butkevicius out due to health issues...

Probably Radzevicius now is very probable.
 
Loosing by far best ltu defender will hurt badly for this bad defensive NT

We should forget about Usa,Greece in 2nd group


All attention should be how to qualife from first group now Mexico and Montengero looks like seriuos opponnets for this 2023 roster
 
All attention should be how to qualife from first group now Mexico and Montengero looks like seriuos opponnets for this 2023 roster

Sedekerskis, Dimsa, D. Giedraitis/Margiris and Radzevicius IN likely though. Butkevicius to me was an obvious starter for NT at 3 and now we barely have staring SF. A chance for Sirvydis, Kulboka, Radzevicius. Probably now we'll start to talk about this if lucky Jokubaitis, Brazdeikis, Kuzminskas, Sedekerskis, Valanciunas.
 
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