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2023 Fil Oil Pre Season tournament

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Dont tell me that Philippine colleges and universisties ean alot thru online betting sites with their gazillion of pre season tournaments
 
Jonel Policarpio scoring 7 crucial pts. in the last 2 mins to give La Salle a breather in the stretch as the Green Archers survived St. Claire, 83-74.

Mike Philipps seems has decent perimeter defense.
 
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Mike Philipps seems has decent perimeter defense.

When you evaluate upside potential, it's these very things like lateralls that you look for, i know i sound so repetitive hyping Mike, but we really have an untapped with excellent upside literally playing in our local gym, waiting for the SBP to use.
 
When you evaluate upside potential, it's these very things like lateralls that you look for, i know i sound so repetitive hyping Mike, but we really have an untapped with excellent upside literally playing in our local gym, waiting for the SBP to use.

i don't think anyone will question mike's defensive upside. however tho, what do you think about his offensive upside? i don't think there's much left to be tapped into tho. still an excellent choice for gilas of course.
 
i don't think anyone will question mike's defensive upside. however tho, what do you think about his offensive upside? i don't think there's much left to be tapped into tho. still an excellent choice for gilas of course.

Mike literally has very little basketball years of professional focus development , if you look at his dribbling he only dribbles with his right .. i really think given enough repetition he can improve. I'm not expecting him to be Larry bird or magic johnson handles Lol, but certainly there is room for improvment with reps..

just thinking of what is realistic archetype for Mike ,,, hmm, maybe a dreymond green type, i noticed his vision is actually not bad... with more reps , he will be able to read the game better
 
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Mike literally has very little basketball years of professional focus development , if you look at his dribbling he only dribbles with his right .. i really think given enough repetition he can improve. I'm not expecting him to be Larry bird or magic johnson handles Lol, but certainly there is room for improvment with reps..

just thinking of what is realistic archetype for Mike ,,, hmm, maybe a dreymond green type, i noticed his vision is actually not bad... with more reps , he will be able to read the game better

I look at Mike Philipps as a big man version of a Gabe Norwood. As we saw Norwood in Gilas, he was there as a defensive wing specialist. But his offense had always been a question mark, he didn't have a decent 3-pt. shooting for a wing & he was just too passive in offense (he was not even among the best fastbreak finishers of Gilas). But becoz of Norwood's exceptional defensive skills, he had been very serviceable for Gilas. The thing is, Philippine basketball didn't have anyone who can replicate Norwood's role as a good size wing defender during the late 2000's to the late 2010's era, which made Norwood's value to the national team even greater. I say, Norwood was more valuable than a Jeff Chan, a Japeth Aguilar or even a Junmar Fajardo during the 2013 to 2019 period.

The same might be the case of Mike Philipps. Offense wise, Philipps may never come close to the likes of a Carl Tamayo, Justin Baltazar, Jamie Malonzo or a Mason Amos, but becoz of Philipps' exceptional defensive skills & rebounding prowess, he may be as valuable or even more valuable than any of these players mentioned as far as Gilas is concerned.
 
Mike literally has very little basketball years of professional focus development , if you look at his dribbling he only dribbles with his right .. i really think given enough repetition he can improve. I'm not expecting him to be Larry bird or magic johnson handles Lol, but certainly there is room for improvment with reps..

just thinking of what is realistic archetype for Mike ,,, hmm, maybe a dreymond green type, i noticed his vision is actually not bad... with more reps , he will be able to read the game better

personally i would rather he just focus on the things he does best rebound, hustle, defend. i wouldn't want him to dabble too much into ball handling because we have other players better suited for that role anyway. i'd probably want him to be a bigger pingris and develop more post moves. his vision could be used if he's used as a hub at the high post but i really wouldn't want him to be handling the ball a lot. id want him to cut and crash the offensive boards instead.
 
I agree the defensive focus for Mike, and the Gabe comparison in terms of defensive impact, but from the 4 and small ball 5 spot
can be an invaluable player for Gilas due to the unique role needed .
 
I look at Mike Philipps as a big man version of a Gabe Norwood. As we saw Norwood in Gilas, he was there as a defensive wing specialist. But his offense had always been a question mark, he didn't have a decent 3-pt. shooting for a wing & he was just too passive in offense (he was not even among the best fastbreak finishers of Gilas). But becoz of Norwood's exceptional defensive skills, he had been very serviceable for Gilas. The thing is, Philippine basketball didn't have anyone who can replicate Norwood's role as a good size wing defender during the late 2000's to the late 2010's era, which made Norwood's value to the national team even greater. I say, Norwood was more valuable than a Jeff Chan, a Japeth Aguilar or even a Junmar Fajardo during the 2013 to 2019 period.

The same might be the case of Mike Philipps. Offense wise, Philipps may never come close to the likes of a Carl Tamayo, Justin Baltazar, Jamie Malonzo or a Mason Amos, but becoz of Philipps' exceptional defensive skills & rebounding prowess, he may be as valuable or even more valuable than any of these players mentioned as far as Gilas is concerned.

in fairness to Gabe, i recall him being a much better shooter whenever he donned the Gilas jersey. Then of course his shooting would regress back once in the PBA. lol
 
Mike P can be a Rodman type of player because of his motor, length and athleticism.

He will be lethal in the pba setting because he can be a Rodman type of player in that league and be effective.

In the Gilas setting though, he would need to have shooting. Shooting is easier to work on (as long as the form is not broken) compared to trying to learn advanced ball-handling when someone is already old. If he develops a consistent shot, he can be our Rodman-lite but with a jumper. Rodman is known for rebounding and defense but was also a really good passer.
 
60-54 win by FEU over ADMU

ADMU played w/o padrigao, mason amos, koon
 
Mike P can be a Rodman type of player because of his motor, length and athleticism.

He will be lethal in the pba setting because he can be a Rodman type of player in that league and be effective.

In the Gilas setting though, he would need to have shooting. Shooting is easier to work on (as long as the form is not broken) compared to trying to learn advanced ball-handling when someone is already old. If he develops a consistent shot, he can be our Rodman-lite but with a jumper. Rodman is known for rebounding and defense but was also a really good passer.

Agree with U that shooting is easier to improve than ball handling when a player isn't that young anymore. We've seen PBA players getting significant improvement on their shooting when they were already in their mid to late 20's. The same could not be said about dribbling or ball handling.

I'm confident, with proper trainning & focus, Mike Philipps can develop a respectable medium range jumper & have a decent offense even in FIBA level game.
 
60-54 win by FEU over ADMU

ADMU played w/o padrigao, mason amos, koon

good win by FEU atleast they played without Gonzales, Alforque, Bautista and Tempra. Good thing is they can a afford to play a bigger backcourt for some stretches, Sleat and Cholo doing PG role plus his shooting improving in the recent games. 6'4" wing baby tam Luke Felipe is usual to his shooting, Pasaol playing like a veteran. Renzo Competente is arriving this month i think. I think they have a shot atleast the last 4 spot in the UAAP F4. former ateneo/csb assistant coach gabby severino is now with FEU coaching group.
 
in fairness to Gabe, i recall him being a much better shooter whenever he donned the Gilas jersey. Then of course his shooting would regress back once in the PBA. lol

Looking at RealGM, Gabe shoots at 26% and a little bet lower than his PBA stats in 3pts. But he is a low volume not even 1 attempt a game shooter so he will not be consider a reliable shooter in FIBA or PBA.
 
Looking at RealGM, Gabe shoots at 26% and a little bet lower than his PBA stats in 3pts. But he is a low volume not even 1 attempt a game shooter so he will not be consider a reliable shooter in FIBA or PBA.

For a guy who was tall, skilled, athletic and had a good shooting motion I could never figure why Gabe didnt try to score more. Its as if he hates scoring. I would say he was the MVP of those competitive ROS teams. He was the leagues best defender for years. He passed, dribbled up the ball and could shoot if he wanted to.

It looked to me like he was consciously limiting his game and was content to be a defender facilitator. This is funny because the other ROS scorers were low FG shooters except maybe for Paul Lee. He was so good he would play a lot of minutes despite barely scoring. I dont think there has been another PBA guard/forward like that.
 
Looking at RealGM, Gabe shoots at 26% and a little bet lower than his PBA stats in 3pts. But he is a low volume not even 1 attempt a game shooter so he will not be consider a reliable shooter in FIBA or PBA.

i just remember him having a penchant for hitting clutch jumpers in FIBA lol
 
gabe was never a scorer even in college where they made it to the final 4. he scored less than 5 ppg despite playing more than 20 minutes per game
 
good win by FEU atleast they played without Gonzales, Alforque, Bautista and Tempra. Good thing is they can a afford to play a bigger backcourt for some stretches, Sleat and Cholo doing PG role plus his shooting improving in the recent games. 6'4" wing baby tam Luke Felipe is usual to his shooting, Pasaol playing like a veteran. Renzo Competente is arriving this month i think. I think they have a shot atleast the last 4 spot in the UAAP F4. former ateneo/csb assistant coach gabby severino is now with FEU coaching group.

Is coach gabby with feu now? Still saw him in today's csb v lpu game in filoil.
 
Dont tell me that Philippine colleges and universisties ean alot thru online betting sites with their gazillion of pre season tournaments

In general, it is a very common practice, but few people talk about it, for example, you can raise money at sports competitions, as well as from online casinos https://topcasinosreviews.in/online-roulette-real-money/​, and if you do everything right, you can get good amounts. So it's a matter of preference, but it's not reasonable to deny the fact that it's impossible to make a lot of money from betting, because if the same college has a lot of money due to a large number of pre-season tournaments.
 

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