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2022-2023 NBA Season

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Rds said:
Jokic and Luka showing us another pathway to basketball excellence not requiring superb athletic ability. Jokic has superb stamina and strength but you could say he is below average in athleticism among NBA centers. But the guy is showing us that below average athleticism and speed in the center spot is not a requirement to excel. Or course it took him a lot of tries but with a good team around him the Nuggets have looked dominant in the playoffs.

Jokic is showing us that the slow strong big is not extinct in the NBA you have to be just more skilled and have superior BBIQ. The slowness of his body is more than made up by how quick his mind processes plays. Also, he may not be an excellent rim protector but with his length and strength it is not that easy to score layups against him. Just ask AD and Hachimura.

Also, with his "slow" game. It doesn't seem his level will change anytime soon. He barely runs, barely jumps. Barring any freak accident he is unlikely to get any injury. So unless teams find a way to match up against him this might not be the last Finals we will see him.
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They're not considered athletic in the traditional sense but they're ridiculously strong and coordinated. You won't find a lot of bigmen with the same coordination and movements that Jokic possess. Most of them move awkwardly and mechanical. Just look at the difference on how Ayton and Jokic moves. Ayton is far more "athletic" and well built but Jokic looks 10x smoother on the court.

Luka could make another jump if only he takes his conditioning seriously..
 
C2Hamm said:
Denver beat Phoenix 4-2. Jokic did great, but we were beaten by Murray and the quality mins of the other guys. I do not think there is 1 player who can control, not beat, Jokic in a 7 game series. his strength has always been his ability to make plays for himself and his teammate. same with the LAL series, all eyes where on Jokic and he did great, but Murray and Gordon did a lot of damage too. KCP and Brown are also stepping up whenever needed.
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I knew it was over the moment CP3 got injured. DA was unreliable as usual and KD's injury after being traded didn't help but with CP3 out the burden on KD and Booker was toi much and it showed in the last game especially without someone like Ayton to body up Jokic
 
Rds said:
I agree on paper Denver > Miami. LA had a hard time against Jokic even with AD and Hachimura. I don't think Bam can handle him alone. Aside from Butler Miami doesn't have any notable offensive weapon. But let's see if the undrafted guys of Miami can again hold their own against on-paper guys better than them.
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Tyler Herro might be back just in time for the Finals after that hand injury he suffered during the first round. He was projected to be out 4 to 6 weeks. So sakto lang siya.

As much as i love Jimmy to win his first ring but i think Denver might have the edge here given their depth.
 
Giannis34GOD said:
And Bam can't even handle Davis in 2020 finals... Nothing against Miami but Denver is on the mission... Jokic is always been underappreciate, A championship will erase the doubts especially that feeling analyst Kedrick Perkins, Who downplay his game and he called him just only stad padding to win MVPs....
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"On the mission"

okay robert.
 
PaulLee3 said:
How to beat the Nuggets in 2024. Sign Kyrie Irving, and Dillon Brooks, Bring back Dwight Howard, Draft a defensive and athletic Center using their 17th overall pick aka Jokic Stopper". Next Year the Lakers are going to be much better in the regular season and playoffs. Kareem Abdul Jabbar was 40 and 41 years old when he won his 5th and 6th championship

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I know Kyrie and LBJ are best of friends, But Kyrie is a locker room cancer and very expensive guy, who will kill the possibility of Reaves' stint at LA... since Reaves wants salary increase.... I would rather put JC than Kyrie, If you want offense.... And JC is better defensively than Kyrie at this point, w/ little less salary....
 
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Wembayama averaged 6.5 points (2FG: 37.3%, 3FG: 30.3%), 3.8 rebounds, and 5.5 PIR in 13 EuroLeague games last season.
So Far he is dominating an inferior league like the French league.

In his home country of France, Wembanyama played for Boulogne-Levallois Metropolitans 92 in LNB Pro A, the top level of basketball in the country. In 33 games during his 2022-23 season, he averaged: 21.6 points per game. 10.5 rebounds per game.

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PaulLee3 said:
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Wembayama averaged 6.5 points (2FG: 37.3%, 3FG: 30.3%), 3.8 rebounds, and 5.5 PIR in 13 EuroLeague games last season.
So Far he is dominating an inferior league like the French league.

In his home country of France, Wembanyama played for Boulogne-Levallois Metropolitans 92 in LNB Pro A, the top level of basketball in the country. In 33 games during his 2022-23 season, he averaged: 21.6 points per game. 10.5 rebounds per game.

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wow calling french league inferior..
 
21 and 10 averages against in-their-prime Afro-French ballers ain't so bad. But I agree, it would have been more convincing if Wemby got to ply his trade in ACB Liga Endesa, or if he got to play more at the Euroleague level. Nevertheless, those Euroleague rookie numbers grinded out against Europe's top ballers don't look so bad either.
 
Silent Killer said:
No comment. You have no idea how tough that french league is..
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Posts from a poster from another forum who lives in Spain and watched euro league games


Session said:
That means it is possible that in a summer party in the NBA they leave him KO ... like Chet Holmgren.

I am amazed at the publicity given to a guy who has proven practically nothing in Europe and seems to be the Second Coming.

Luka Doncic at the age of 18 dominated the Euroleague and NBA analysts did not take him into account, when they did not dismiss him and despise him.

He smells singe to me, not only because he looks like a fragile player, but because with his physical build, he probably has the same problems as Rudy Gobert on defense.

I think that last year he inflated to the stratosphere and he chose to play in a minor league so as not to lower his value.

If instead of 20 points per game in a mediocre league, he scores 10 in a league that is much more similar to the NBA in terms of professionalism, surely he would not be the number one pick in the draft.
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From essentially a fan outsider I wouldn't make much of their takes, I truly trust the amount of homework and analysis that NBA scouts put into evaluating prospects, the Spurs do an incredible in depth assessment.

look at how bad Rupert and Diengs stats are, yet both could be lottery picks, so it begs the question, what are they seeing that the ordinary fan does not? Any why are the same stats by another player not valued in the same way?

Here are a few comments said. " This is why Rupert is rated so highly, after pressing a ball carrier and forcing him to change direction twice in 2 seconds.

Wembly , he's the 1st player Ive seen go from free-throw line elbow guarding a man and cover easily distance o weak side help and block a player easily driving to hoop or shooting from corner 3. , That's what 8 feet wingspan does matched with foot speed

Don't forget the draft is all about upside , that is why Div 1 seniors despite dominating atats are not drafted as high as freshmen with unimpressed stats..
having said thst I don't think Wemby will be an all star level player in 1st two years , especially offensively.
it's really the defense where he could be an all defensive team player in his first few years
 
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French league is a Minor league?

What does that make the Bleague?
 

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PaulLee3 said:
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Wembayama averaged 6.5 points (2FG: 37.3%, 3FG: 30.3%), 3.8 rebounds, and 5.5 PIR in 13 EuroLeague games last season.
So Far he is dominating an inferior league like the French league.

In his home country of France, Wembanyama played for Boulogne-Levallois Metropolitans 92 in LNB Pro A, the top level of basketball in the country. In 33 games during his 2022-23 season, he averaged: 21.6 points per game. 10.5 rebounds per game.
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Giannis was doing less than 10pts and 5rebs in the second tier Greek league. Look how he turned out through hard work and a supportive team. Some players are drafted due to potential. up to them and their teams to reach that potential. staying healthy helps too.
 
the draft is all about upside potential, ganito lang , a freshman div 1 player avg like 8 pts has a higher chance of being drafted than a senior who is averaging 20 pts a game .
 
DAdmiral said:
the draft is all about upside potential, ganito lang , a freshman div 1 player avg like 8 pts has a higher chance of being drafted than a senior who is averaging 20 pts a game .
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most nba executives think that a college senior has a lower ceiling for development, and heck, might already be on his peak, that's why those who exhaust all their college eligibility are usually late 1st round to 2nd rd prospects. While the underclassman are projected as lottery picks
 
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