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2012 Olympic Qualifying Tournament

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12th place: Jordan (0-2)

12th place: Jordan (0-2)

Jordan did everything to deserve the last place. Their star, Zaid Abbas, had a disappointing tournament (10.0 points, 4.5 rebounds). Their starting center Mohammad Shaher Hussein was inexistent (1.5 points, 2.0 rebounds). Only positive note was Osama Daghles, a very interesting combo-guard: 13 points, 3.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists, 2 steals.
 
11th place: South Korea (0-2)

11th place: South Korea (0-2)

After a crushing defeat against Russia, South Korea gave Dominican Republic a run for their money. Lee Seung-Jun (C, 2.06, 1978), the American import, was their best player: 18.0 points but only 4.5 rebounds. Competent direction by PG Kim Tae-Sool (8 points, 5.5 rebounds, 5 assists and 3.5 steals). It will be interesting to follow the evolution of the young centers Lee Jong-Hyun (2.06, 1994, 4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1 bpg) and Kim Jong-Kyu (2.07, 1991, 2 ppg, 2.5 rpg).
 
10th place: New Zealand (1-1)

10th place: New Zealand (1-1)

Unexpected win against Angola. Tai Webster (1.86, 1994!!!) was given the starting point guard job and he was good enough for 13.5 points and :mad:1 assist. Alex Pledger is a competent though boring center (8.5 points, 10.0 rebounds).
 
9th place: Venezuela (1-1)

9th place: Venezuela (1-1)

Greivis Vázquez (24.0 points, 5.0 assists, 2.0 steals), the heart and soul of this team, deserved more than a group stage elimination. Undersized center Gregory Echenique (7.5 points, 7.5 rebounds, 1 block) and backup PF Windi Graterol (5.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, 2 blocks) give everything they got. Veterans Óscar Torres (10.0 points, 2.5 rebounds) and Héctor Romero (7.0 points, only 2.0 rebounds) are heading for a well-deserved retirement from international play.
 
I was wondering if there is a relation between the spots in the groups of the Olympic Tournament and the results in the Olympic Qualification Tournament. For example if the winners of the two semifinals of the OQT get into group A and the winner of the game between the semi-final loosers get into group B of the Olympic Tournament.

If this would be the case, one could think about tactical decisions regarding the results in the semifinals. One could think about loosing the semifinal on purpose to qualify by the next game to get a spot in the weaker group B in the Olympic Tournament.

But I found the following statement in this document:
"The draw for the teams qualifying via the OQT will be held on 8 July, following the final game."

Hence there will be an additional draw after the OQT and no tactis are necessary regarding the semifinal game.
 
But I found the following statement in this document:
"The draw for the teams qualifying via the OQT will be held on 8 July, following the final game."

Hence there will be an additional draw after the OQT and no tactis are necessary regarding the semifinal game.
What do you mean?I dont understand.
we will have another one draw for the olympic tournament?
 
What do you mean?I dont understand.
we will have another one draw for the olympic tournament?

Yes! This is how I understand this sentence. There will be an additional draw for the three teams which qualified througth the OQT which will decide if they will get a spot in group A or group B in the Olympic Tournament.
 
Yes! This is how I understand this sentence. There will be an additional draw for the three teams which qualified througth the OQT which will decide if they will get a spot in group A or group B in the Olympic Tournament.
Oh,no,this not good TMO.:(
 
Anyone generous enough to upload the games online or share it for download?
 
If this would be the case, one could think about tactical decisions regarding the results in the semifinals. One could think about loosing the semifinal on purpose to qualify by the next game to get a spot in the weaker group B in the Olympic Tournament.

Any serious contender for a medal should prefer to be in the harder group. This leads to an easier QF match, and this is the stage of the tournament where one mistake leaves you out of the medals. So it is better to play in the harder group to ensure an easier QF match. Now, if your team is not a serious medal contender, and you fear that they are not even one of the 4 best teams in their group, then you should avoid the harder group.
 
Any serious contender for a medal should prefer to be in the harder group. This leads to an easier QF match, and this is the stage of the tournament where one mistake leaves you out of the medals. So it is better to play in the harder group to ensure an easier QF match. Now, if your team is not a serious medal contender, and you fear that they are not even one of the 4 best teams in their group, then you should avoid the harder group.

Yes I agree. However the probability that Greece finishes 4th in group A behind USA, Argentina and France is not zero and then they would face Spain in the quarterfinal which very likely will finish 1st in their group. Facing Spain in quarterfinal will very likely have the usual outcome.
Of course if Greece manages to beat France or Argentina or both in group A this will give rise to a very comfortable situation in the quarterfinal.

But since group spots will be determined by a draw the team cannot choose the group....
 
Yes I agree. However the probability that Greece finishes 4th in group A behind USA, Argentina and France is not zero and then they would face Spain in the quarterfinal which very likely will finish 1st in their group. Facing Spain in quarterfinal will very likely have the usual outcome.
Of course if Greece manages to beat France or Argentina or both in group A this will give rise to a very comfortable situation in the quarterfinal.

But since group spots will be determined by a draw the team cannot choose the group....

Yes, I wanted to discus this issue (finishing 4th in Group A is bad, but 1-3 is good), but I don't want us to get ahead of ourselves since we haven't qualified yet. I look forward to discussions on these issues after the OQT. Also, Argentina (age) and France (roster absences) might be weaker than they appear.
 
If we qualify in the Group A with Lithuania,USA,France,Argentina and Tinysia
I believe that we will beat everydody except USA(and maybe Argentina).
 
The 3rd place of the A group might face Russia...

The only team that will have an easy quarter final is the USA. Everybody else will have to play the ass off to go through
 
Quarter-finalist: Angola (1-2)

Quarter-finalist: Angola (1-2)

A spectacular first half against Macedonia was Angola’s best moment. An immense Eduardo Mingas (20.3 points) and a solid Joaquim Gomes (8.3 points, 8.0 rebounds) were their best players. “Tough as nails-undersized center” Leonel Paulo (2.7 points, 5.0 rebounds) stood out on a weak bench: no one could stand-in for SG Carlos Morais (13.7 points) and inconsistent SF Olímpio Cipriano (11.3 points, 3.3 rebounds). Point-guard duties were assigned to “no-nonsense” Armando Costa (7.0 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.0 assists).
 
Quarter-finalist: Greece (2-1)

Quarter-finalist: Greece (2-1)

Nigeria knock-out Greece from the Olympics!! Vassilis Spanoulis (19.3 points, 5.7 assists) and Giorgios Printezis (14.0 points, 4.7 rebounds and 2.0 assists) weren’t enough. Someone should inform centers Ioannis Bourousis and Dimitrios Mavroeidis that rebounding is still legal in basketball. Kostas Papanikolaou came away with an interesting stats line (12 points, 3.3 rebounds and 2.7 assists) though pumped by the game against Jordan. Antonis Fotsis (5.3 points, 1.3 rebounds) pulled an excellent disappearing act.
 
Quarter-finalist: Macedonia (1-2)

Quarter-finalist: Macedonia (1-2)

The team was hampered by a weak bench: an eight-player rotation is just not enough. The geniality of Bo McCalebb (26.3 points, 6.0 assists), arguably the tournament’s top point-guard, was not met by a less than athletic backcourt. Macedonia’s NT needs to be renovated: Vlado Ilievsky (1980), Gjorgji Cekovski (1979) and Todor Gecevski (1979) should be thanked for their past services. If opposing centers fail to respect his game, even Predrag Samardziski (9.0 points, 7.7 rebounds) can score.
 
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