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[1/8 Finals] Turkey - Spain

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[1/8 Finals] Turkey - Spain


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Why do you think that ? Because Croatia's current roster is above of Turkey right now. At Turkey's best, only with Dixon, Ersan and Asik they could compete and achieve the finals.

Because Croats were much more competitive. 76-73 game or something similar.
 
TBH didn't watch it. But still it was a group stage match. Besides looking at the rosters, Turkey had a really limited rotation in terms of quality, and Sarica, with the materials he had, he prepared the perfect gameplan.

Dario Saric killed the lack of movement of gasol's bros assisting and scoring in the paint. Turkey dont got any big man with iq basketball to pass properly, and not many backourt player to hit 3's
 
TBH didn't watch it. But still it was a group stage match. Besides looking at the rosters, Turkey had a really limited rotation in terms of quality, and Sarica, with the materials he had, he prepared the perfect gameplan.

IMO is always easier to prepare a gameplan based on destruction, than a gameplan based on creation
 
Like, only Turkey is missing players in this tournament?

The point is other teams have enough talent pool to pick a proper team, Turkey's talent pool isnt that big so missing key players really matter for us.

You get it now ? i know you can do it
 
Dario Saric killed the lack of movement of gasol's bros assisting and scoring in the paint. Turkey dont got any big man with iq basketball to pass properly, and not many backourt player to hit 3's

You are missing my point, i am not talking about which team was more competitive against spain, but what is the proper gameplan to use against them. And Sarica did what he had to do.

i will agree although with something i read, he didn't prepared some second or third options on the terms of set basketball.
 
The point is other teams have enough talent pool to pick a proper team, Turkey's talent pool isnt that big so missing key players really matter for us.

You get it now ? i know you can do it

The most benefited team by playing with full roster would be Spain. A military march agaisnt every team. Remmeber we're missing: Llull + Abrines + Ibaka/Mirotic.
 
The point is other teams have enough talent pool to pick a proper team, Turkey's talent pool isnt that big so missing key players really matter for us.

You get it now ? i know you can do it

When we're talking about absences we're not going to make a special reference to Turkey because of their limited talent pool.
 
IMO is always easier to prepare a gameplan based on destruction, than a gameplan based on creation

You need Xavi-Iniesta duo to do it. No Xavi, Iniesta is old and gameplan based on creation doesn't work anymore...

Our guards are Kenan-Sinan. There is a huge talent gap between us, how can we fight with you without defence?
 
When we're talking about absences we're not going to make a special reference to Turkey because of their limited talent pool.

Maybe you are right now, but let's wait 4-5 years, we are talking about the youth champions. my only question is if they have the "know how" to develope that generation, cause it seems they are only focused on spending millions to bring an army of foreigners to the top euroleauge turkish teams.
 
The point is other teams have enough talent pool to pick a proper team, Turkey's talent pool isnt that big so missing key players really matter for us.

You get it now ? i know you can do it

I don't think that Serbia, Slovenia, Russia, Latvia, Greece, Croatia, France has a much better bench than ours.
We just missed Dixon and Ersan in this tournament. Could beat any team with them...
 
The most benefited team by playing with full roster would be Spain. A military march agaisnt every team. Remmeber we're missing: Llull + Abrines + Ibaka/Mirotic.

Bobby Dixon,Omer Asik,Ersan ilyasova,Enes Kanter(Even tho he will never play again i think) with those players we could put a better fight



When we're talking about absences we're not going to make a special reference to Turkey because of their limited talent pool.

You said every team is missing players to make it look like its the same situation for every team which is not, now you are telling us that we should talk basketball with your rules ?
 
The most benefited team by playing with full roster would be Spain. A military march agaisnt every team. Remmeber we're missing: Llull + Abrines + Ibaka/Mirotic.

You do get that out of Top 10 of our players we are missing 7 or 8.

Teodosic
Markovic
Nedovic
Kalinic
Bjelica
Jokic
Raduljica
Simonovic

All of those players would've made the Final 12 here except one (probably it would be a call whether to take Raduljic or Kuzmic). So yes, Spain would've benefited with their absences but our team would've been on another level compared to what we are now. Our depth is saving us from embarrassment in this tournament...
 
Disagree with Sarica's gameplan. Twice attempted a zone which was like mana from heaven to our sputtering offense. And trying to come back by moving the ball and getting high percentage 2-point shots was the nail in the coffin. Last 3 minutes were too easy for Spain.
 
You do get that out of Top 10 of our players we are missing 7 or 8.

Teodosic
Markovic
Nedovic
Kalinic
Bjelica
Jokic
Raduljica
Simonovic

All of those players would've made the Final 12 here except one (probably it would be a call whether to take Raduljic or Kuzmic). So yes, Spain would've benefited with their absences but our team would've been on another level compared to what we are now. Our depth is saving us from embarrassment in this tournament...

said it all. Too bad 3 or 4 of them are not here to give an end to this arrogance...
 
There are some points that Sarıca can be criticized, like not unleashing Furkan earlier (one more win and we could be playing Croatia) or not playing Doğuş versus Rubio or Rodriguez. But overall you can only do so much with a limited talent pool. I hope we will develop our youngsters and will be much better in next tourno. Congrats Spain
 
The most benefited team by playing with full roster would be Spain. A military march agaisnt every team. Remmeber we're missing: Llull + Abrines + Ibaka/Mirotic.

Those are minor absences compared to Serbia and France. The Lull injury would be impactful only if the team decided to wear Real Madrid jerseys instead of the Spanish national team colors.
 
Korkmaz and Osman stand high with their overall performance in this tournament. They have deficiencies in particular skill-sets, but they have at least proved they can be the main contributors of this team even now. When one thinks we have at least 5 youngsters who are potentially on the same pot with them and can get ready until 2020 Olympics which is the ultimate goal of this team, we have a right to bank on them. Trust the process :)
 
People crying about the absences of their NT... WTF? The players who are in the tournaments are the players you have to cheer for, doesnt matter if they are better or worse than the absents one.

Turkey lacks something to be a real contender, but working with the duo Osman and Korkmaz will give some good days to turkish basketball, slso the atmosphere was incredible, congrats.
 
People crying about the absences of their NT... WTF? The players who are in the tournaments are the players you have to cheer for, doesnt matter if they are better or worse than the absents one.
It's easy to be objective when you're not affected by the problem. Anyway, no one's crying about absences, the issue was one of your contrymen claiming quite arrogantly that had certain missing Spanish players played for the NT in this tournament it would be an easy sweep all the way to the gold. Someone has to remind him that his team is not the only one nor the one who was most affected by the absences, which is more than obvious by the Spanish performance so far compared to some of the other powerhouses.
 
It's easy to be objective when you're not affected by the problem. Anyway, no one's crying about absences, the issue was one of your contrymen claiming quite arrogantly that had certain missing Spanish players played for the NT in this tournament it would be an easy sweep all the way to the gold. Someone has to remind him that his team is not the only one nor the one who was most affected by the absences, which is more than obvious by the Spanish performance so far compared to some of the other powerhouses.

Yeah, because this year's Euroleague, ACB and Copa del Rey MVP is not spanish...
 
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