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Srle2
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Still no big hairy balls for the croatian basketball team
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ThePeraCar2
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i agree but dont forget that Hezonja has much less space in game than Osman
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CoachZ2
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Yep Osman is No. 2in Turkish team after Ilyaskva, Hezonja is 7-8th rotation player. Hezonja's draft status is based on his potential. Neither him nor Osman are NBA ready.
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Srle2
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I"ll take Osman over Hezonja, if I want my team to win, yes Hezonja can do some fancy dunking but Osman is the smarter player and he's a winner.
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ThePeraCar2
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awsome guy love him
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MZT Skopje2
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Ye this is good analyze. After this EC I start to believe that Hezonija aint that good and will not be as good as all predict. At this moment he is just talented an thats that. Even Aleksandar Cvetkovic wos talented and look.
I pick Osman who holds MKD passport too hehe.
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INTEGRAL2
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Guys are you kidding when you compare Cedi Osman and Hezonja?
Cedi Osman in his 20 superb dominant, versatile player. He is now better and in 2 years, 3, 4, 5 ... 10 year will be better than Hezonja.
Cedi Osman in his 20 superb dominant, versatile player. He is now better and in 2 years, 3, 4, 5 ... 10 year will be better than Hezonja.
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CoachZ2
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That is something you cannot know. It's a matter of how Hezonja develops, since he has a much higher ceiling in terms of talent compared to Osman. For example Vujanic was a beast of a player at 21 already, but from that generation Jaric ended up a better player. It's just an issue of development, career choices, injuries etc. Osman is far ahead but was also given a bigger chance in the team. If Hezonja was playing for I don't know Trabzon and getting 25+ minutes you don't know how he would've played and developed.
He is a hot head but with a killer instinct. As I said let's make those comparisons when they are both developed players. Comparing them as talents without them actually having a career so far, is just meaningless.
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Joško Poljak Fan2
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comparison NBA wise? Hezonja wins.
NBA is a lot about the "jack of all trades and the master of none" vs. players exceptional in few characteristics and they prefer the latter unless a player is clearly one-dimensional.
Hezonja athleticism, shooting and slashing in broad terms are excellent for an european player and that's why he got drafted as high. They're confident enough they can develop a player with some of those characteristics better than someone all round. Difference in both mind sets compared to europe.
In this tournament Hezonja took responsibility in his hands sometimes and failed on many occasions, NBA scouts would say, hey at least he tried, we already know he lacks experience for doing that on a constant basis, but he has hunger and wants to lead unlike many other euro players
NBA is a lot about the "jack of all trades and the master of none" vs. players exceptional in few characteristics and they prefer the latter unless a player is clearly one-dimensional.
Hezonja athleticism, shooting and slashing in broad terms are excellent for an european player and that's why he got drafted as high. They're confident enough they can develop a player with some of those characteristics better than someone all round. Difference in both mind sets compared to europe.
In this tournament Hezonja took responsibility in his hands sometimes and failed on many occasions, NBA scouts would say, hey at least he tried, we already know he lacks experience for doing that on a constant basis, but he has hunger and wants to lead unlike many other euro players
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slice me nice2
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Players between 17-21 ages shouldn't play in top tier teams. This is just two edged sword situation. If you have strong mentality, you will reach the highest step easily but if you are spoiled like Hezonja, you will waste your potential there. Porzingis is a great example. He didn't waste his time in top level team and had chances to play. With that awesome talent, he will do well in NBA if he bulks up.
Flashy dunks don't make you better. Osman over him day n night.
Btw, this comparison reminds me Kanter-Valanciunas one
Flashy dunks don't make you better. Osman over him day n night.
Btw, this comparison reminds me Kanter-Valanciunas one
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unnamed2
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bukefalos2
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Comparing a crotian player with tournament stats is deceptive.
look at ante tomic stats, would you pick semih erden over tomic. no way
Hezonja is better player than cedi.
He made the right choice that playing overseas as soon as possible.
Saric made a mistake with joining Efes for two years. He wasted his time
look at ante tomic stats, would you pick semih erden over tomic. no way
Hezonja is better player than cedi.
He made the right choice that playing overseas as soon as possible.
Saric made a mistake with joining Efes for two years. He wasted his time
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CoachZ2
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Well the media is saying Perasovic has resigned from the NT after the debacle. Not unexpected.
What makes me wonder is that for the Nth time when Croatia looses and disappoints both players and the coach come out and say "i have no idea why we played so bad etc". I mean it's not like a fairy came and enchanted the Czechs etc. There are very clear and obvious basketball reasons why such a talented team keeps loosing, they need to be put forward and worked on.
What makes me wonder is that for the Nth time when Croatia looses and disappoints both players and the coach come out and say "i have no idea why we played so bad etc". I mean it's not like a fairy came and enchanted the Czechs etc. There are very clear and obvious basketball reasons why such a talented team keeps loosing, they need to be put forward and worked on.
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MZT Skopje2
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Croatia just do not have the leader. They also have no G, Ukic and Draper far from the elite.
Several coachs has worked with the team with similar results. So blaming the coach onece against just do not work in my book.
Sometimes reality is like it is, and thats is, this team is overated.
Several coachs has worked with the team with similar results. So blaming the coach onece against just do not work in my book.
Sometimes reality is like it is, and thats is, this team is overated.
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toliver2
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everybody's arguing here why Croats underperformed, but the fact really is that this Czech team is actually very good and for some reason still underestimated.
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aenaon2
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Are you arguing that it was due to the performance of the Czechs, that Croats gave a new dimension to the term choke; They were at some point in 3d period down 30 points, Tomits was on Centaurus sunbathing leaving his hologram on the game, well, the Croats did not perform, regardless of what the Czechs did, the Croats were not playing team sport Basketball.
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CoachZ2
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Well the talent gap is very wide, that is why. I think Czechs were the best team in Group D, but I can't say they are more talented than Croatia. They deserved the win 100%, and it's even more impressive that it is versus a much more talented team.
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aenaon2
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talented players, the team part is not there apparently.
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Srle2
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Saric's shooting stroke blows, his physical tools and athleticism are average, I don't see any bright future for him in the NBA, If he left earlier for the USA he wouldn't have been much better of a player than he's today . I don't agree that Hezonja is better player than Osman. Osman is doing more on the court for his team than Hezonja, maybe he will be better player someday, who knows , but right now ,he isn't .