PBA League Expansion
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mon23
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Personally, I prefer the league to maintain a 10-team casts with Meralco taking over the Barako Coffee franchise this coming season (2010-2011).
While an ideal 12 teams would be a PBA fan's dream, There arent too many talents joining the draft, if there are many players being left out, how come we see old hands Marlou Aquino, Dennis Espino, Rommel Adducul still playing, or the league had to contend with the likes of Dorian Pena, Mick Pennisi, or worse Alex Crisano (Good thing he's ban now) whom fans have grown tired watching.
Having 12 teams means more Fil-Am invaders and younger players who aren't ripe yet to play in the PBA, and in turn became waste potentials, the league isn't ready for expansion, until such time the talent-level became deep.
While an ideal 12 teams would be a PBA fan's dream, There arent too many talents joining the draft, if there are many players being left out, how come we see old hands Marlou Aquino, Dennis Espino, Rommel Adducul still playing, or the league had to contend with the likes of Dorian Pena, Mick Pennisi, or worse Alex Crisano (Good thing he's ban now) whom fans have grown tired watching.
Having 12 teams means more Fil-Am invaders and younger players who aren't ripe yet to play in the PBA, and in turn became waste potentials, the league isn't ready for expansion, until such time the talent-level became deep.
if you look at it in a short term goal, give it a year or 2, these raw player would eventually get adjusted to the league.
DS_42
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Well these raw talents you're referring to will never be ripe if they won't be given a chance to play. I don't mind if there will be influx of fil foreigners as long as they can play and won't be a headcase. I hate to see players with talents such as Tugade and Valenzuela to name a few rot in their team's bench.
nardy
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how i wish they'd be back on Yeng's team
it would be difficult unless they're willing to take pay-cuts.
mon23
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Valenzuela and Tugade could have more playing time if put into teams such as Air21 and Coca Cola, SMB and Ginebra are overloaded with players they should give up to other teams. What's pulling the PBA down is raw talents who aren't ready to play in the league, I wouldnt say they should stay long in the amateurs but wait for the perfect time to enter the PBA, If Johnny Abarrientos played earlier in the PBA, let's say 1991, he'd be only 21 years old at that time, he might not be successful because he may knew all along he isn't ready yet.
The problem with collegiate players now is they are in so much hurry to gain entrance in the PBA with the belief that as long as they had talent, they could easily be superstars in the league, my point is make a name for themselves first in leagues like the PBL, the PBA could wait.
Valenzuela is an unprotected reserve. Nobody is picking him up.
Average age of Draft applicants is 24 yrs old. On the contrary, major leagues around the world has teenagers playing with the big guns.
And the law of averages suggests that not everyone will be a success..
dueller23
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I think its not SMB or Ginebra's fault to have loaded lineup. Remember that some of the teams are saving and having financial difficulties that they tend to give up some of their star players like Air 21 or Sta. Lucia Realty. It would benefit the league and the players in the long run if the PBA will add I think 4 more teams.
capitantiago
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no. air21 and barako bull have been selling their players (veterans and rookie picks).
lalakers
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PBA eyes D-League if PBL-Liga talks fail
By Nelson Beltran (The Philippine Star) Updated April 28, 2010 12:00 AM
MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Basketball Association will form its own version of the NBA Developmental League should the proposed merger between the PBL and Liga Pilipinas won’t push through.
The PBA board of governors unanimously approved the league’s official stand in a meeting in Palawan Sunday morning.
PBA board chairman Lito Alvarez explained the pro league needs a strong minor league serving as transition tournament for collegiate players who are graduating to the pro ranks.
Thus, the PBA is helping out the PBL and Liga Pilipinas to unite.
Alvarez said he has had talks with both the PBL and Liga officials and received positive responses.
Gracing the PSA Forum yesterday, Liga chief executive officer Noli Eala, also the SBP executive director, said their merger talks with the PBL is now in “advance stage.”
To help sustain the talks, the PBA board has tasked Sta. Lucia Realty’s Buddy Encarnado, Ginebra’s Robert Non and Talk n Text alternate governor Patrick Gregorio to continue conferring with the Liga and PBL brass.
The PBA governors believe the successful PBL-Liga merger would benefit not only Asia’s first play-for-pay league but all the parties involved.
The PBL and Liga have been struggling with dwindling membership, and this for one urged the PBA to step in.
“We’re seeing bad signs. If these leagues fold up, it’s bad for us. We believe UAAP and NCAA players need transition tournament before they join the pro ranks,” said Alvarez.
The PBA board chair believes the negotiations would be over by the end of the month and the PBL-Liga first tourney running by late May.
The outline of the kind of inaugural tournament to be launched has already been broached.
“The format is still to be discussed, but the PBL could well be the Northern Conference and Liga making the Southern Conference since Liga teams are used to traveling,” said Alvarez.
But Alvarez stressed the PBA would form its own developmental league if the PBL-Liga union talks bog down.
“On our own, each of the 10 (PBA) teams could adopt its own team through lottery. For sure, we have to get this new league going,” said Alvarez.
The PBL has been the primary source of PBA players since the former’s establishment in 1983, although the region-based Liga, which got going in 2008, has been making its own contributions to the pro league of late with players like Jared Dillinger, Mark Yee and Ramsay Williams.
By Nelson Beltran (The Philippine Star) Updated April 28, 2010 12:00 AM
MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Basketball Association will form its own version of the NBA Developmental League should the proposed merger between the PBL and Liga Pilipinas won’t push through.
The PBA board of governors unanimously approved the league’s official stand in a meeting in Palawan Sunday morning.
PBA board chairman Lito Alvarez explained the pro league needs a strong minor league serving as transition tournament for collegiate players who are graduating to the pro ranks.
Thus, the PBA is helping out the PBL and Liga Pilipinas to unite.
Alvarez said he has had talks with both the PBL and Liga officials and received positive responses.
Gracing the PSA Forum yesterday, Liga chief executive officer Noli Eala, also the SBP executive director, said their merger talks with the PBL is now in “advance stage.”
To help sustain the talks, the PBA board has tasked Sta. Lucia Realty’s Buddy Encarnado, Ginebra’s Robert Non and Talk n Text alternate governor Patrick Gregorio to continue conferring with the Liga and PBL brass.
The PBA governors believe the successful PBL-Liga merger would benefit not only Asia’s first play-for-pay league but all the parties involved.
The PBL and Liga have been struggling with dwindling membership, and this for one urged the PBA to step in.
“We’re seeing bad signs. If these leagues fold up, it’s bad for us. We believe UAAP and NCAA players need transition tournament before they join the pro ranks,” said Alvarez.
The PBA board chair believes the negotiations would be over by the end of the month and the PBL-Liga first tourney running by late May.
The outline of the kind of inaugural tournament to be launched has already been broached.
“The format is still to be discussed, but the PBL could well be the Northern Conference and Liga making the Southern Conference since Liga teams are used to traveling,” said Alvarez.
But Alvarez stressed the PBA would form its own developmental league if the PBL-Liga union talks bog down.
“On our own, each of the 10 (PBA) teams could adopt its own team through lottery. For sure, we have to get this new league going,” said Alvarez.
The PBL has been the primary source of PBA players since the former’s establishment in 1983, although the region-based Liga, which got going in 2008, has been making its own contributions to the pro league of late with players like Jared Dillinger, Mark Yee and Ramsay Williams.
jundakki
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Meralco wants to join PBA next season
Rey Joble, GMANews.TV
06/24/2010 | 10:54 PM
Make way for the Meralco Reddies’ return to local basketball’s big scene next season.
The company with a rich basketball tradition, is now knocking on the Philippine Basketball Association doors.
Talk N Text board governor Ricky Vargas confirmed the news to GMANews.TV, stressing that the company is expressing its interest to join either as an expansion squad or by acquiring an existing franchise.
Talk N Text is a company being controlled by Manny V. Pangilinan’s group, which is also the majority owner of the Manila Electric Company (Meralco).
“There’s a plus and minus when it comes to joining the PBA as an expansion squad or by buying an existing franchise," Vargas said in a telephone interview. “Of course, if Meralco joins as an expansion squad, we can bring in players from the amateur ranks."
But Meralco doesn’t have a basketball team competing in commercial leagues since the old squad folded during the early 1970s, and chances of making it to the PBA next season is to acquire an existing franchise.
Sta. Lucia Realty and Barako Coffee, two teams which unloaded their marquee players, are reportedly being eyed by Meralco. Of the two, the Realtors will most likely be bought out.
PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios welcomed this new development.
“This is good news if indeed Meralco joins the PBA next season. I’m happy that the company sees the PBA as a good vehicle in terms of promoting their company," said Barrios.
Barrios would be delighted more to see if Robert Jaworski, Philippine basketball’s Living Legend, would join the squad – as a member of its coaching staff.
There were reports that Jaworski is being considered in handling a key position in the team’s coaching staff.
Jaworsk was the Reddy Kilowatts' biggest star when the team was still competing in MICAA. Aside from Jaworski, the team was bannered by Francis Arnaiz, brothers Alberto and Tino Reynoso, Orly Bauzon, Alfonso Marquez, Jimmy Mariano and Larry Mumar. Handling the team was Lauro “The Fox" Mumar.
They won the championship in 1971.
But the team was forced to quit competing in MICAA, then the most glamorous commercial league before the PBA, when Jaworski alongside Big Boy Reynoso, were banned for life by Basketball Association of the Philippines president Lito Puyat and the MICAA for two years.
According to basketball historian Jay P. Mercado of MYPBA, a rich source of basketball information, Jaworski and Reynoso reportedly mauled referees Joe Obias and Edilberto Cruz in the game against the Crispa Floro Redmanizers in December 1971 that led to their suspension.
Possible coach
Aside from Jaworski, grandslam coach Norman Black, who joined the Tropang Texters as consultant in the PBA, looms as the strong candidate for the head coaching post.
Black, owner of 10 PBA championships, including a rare grandslam with San Miguel Beer in 1989, also handles the Ateneo Blue Eagles in the UAAP.
The Blue Eagles are also being strongly supported by Pangilinan. Two other teams – the Smart-Gilas national developmental team and the San Beda Red Lions – are also being bankrolled by the man known as MVP.
Ironically, Black and Jaworski were together with the first all-professional RP team that finished silver in the 1990 Asian Games in Beijing.
Black, along with Rino Salazar, was assistant to Jaworski. - GMANews.TV
Rey Joble, GMANews.TV
06/24/2010 | 10:54 PM
Make way for the Meralco Reddies’ return to local basketball’s big scene next season.
The company with a rich basketball tradition, is now knocking on the Philippine Basketball Association doors.
Talk N Text board governor Ricky Vargas confirmed the news to GMANews.TV, stressing that the company is expressing its interest to join either as an expansion squad or by acquiring an existing franchise.
Talk N Text is a company being controlled by Manny V. Pangilinan’s group, which is also the majority owner of the Manila Electric Company (Meralco).
“There’s a plus and minus when it comes to joining the PBA as an expansion squad or by buying an existing franchise," Vargas said in a telephone interview. “Of course, if Meralco joins as an expansion squad, we can bring in players from the amateur ranks."
But Meralco doesn’t have a basketball team competing in commercial leagues since the old squad folded during the early 1970s, and chances of making it to the PBA next season is to acquire an existing franchise.
Sta. Lucia Realty and Barako Coffee, two teams which unloaded their marquee players, are reportedly being eyed by Meralco. Of the two, the Realtors will most likely be bought out.
PBA commissioner Sonny Barrios welcomed this new development.
“This is good news if indeed Meralco joins the PBA next season. I’m happy that the company sees the PBA as a good vehicle in terms of promoting their company," said Barrios.
Barrios would be delighted more to see if Robert Jaworski, Philippine basketball’s Living Legend, would join the squad – as a member of its coaching staff.
There were reports that Jaworski is being considered in handling a key position in the team’s coaching staff.
Jaworsk was the Reddy Kilowatts' biggest star when the team was still competing in MICAA. Aside from Jaworski, the team was bannered by Francis Arnaiz, brothers Alberto and Tino Reynoso, Orly Bauzon, Alfonso Marquez, Jimmy Mariano and Larry Mumar. Handling the team was Lauro “The Fox" Mumar.
They won the championship in 1971.
But the team was forced to quit competing in MICAA, then the most glamorous commercial league before the PBA, when Jaworski alongside Big Boy Reynoso, were banned for life by Basketball Association of the Philippines president Lito Puyat and the MICAA for two years.
According to basketball historian Jay P. Mercado of MYPBA, a rich source of basketball information, Jaworski and Reynoso reportedly mauled referees Joe Obias and Edilberto Cruz in the game against the Crispa Floro Redmanizers in December 1971 that led to their suspension.
Possible coach
Aside from Jaworski, grandslam coach Norman Black, who joined the Tropang Texters as consultant in the PBA, looms as the strong candidate for the head coaching post.
Black, owner of 10 PBA championships, including a rare grandslam with San Miguel Beer in 1989, also handles the Ateneo Blue Eagles in the UAAP.
The Blue Eagles are also being strongly supported by Pangilinan. Two other teams – the Smart-Gilas national developmental team and the San Beda Red Lions – are also being bankrolled by the man known as MVP.
Ironically, Black and Jaworski were together with the first all-professional RP team that finished silver in the 1990 Asian Games in Beijing.
Black, along with Rino Salazar, was assistant to Jaworski. - GMANews.TV
PBA expansion
PBA expansion
this is my first thread! (woohoo)
for me this is the perfect time for the pba to expand, with more players (esp those from the sbp programs) and the influx fil-for. there are so many good talents here, but not all have the chance to show theirs...
pls add your thoughts guys! ^_^
PBA expansion
this is my first thread! (woohoo)
for me this is the perfect time for the pba to expand, with more players (esp those from the sbp programs) and the influx fil-for. there are so many good talents here, but not all have the chance to show theirs...
pls add your thoughts guys! ^_^
durden_tyler
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One word why it won't happen soon: $ (Ok that wasn't technically a word, but you get the point.)
Optiplex 210L
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Yeah I could not agree with you more. The PBA teams (companies for that matter) treat PBA as a marketing tool and with more teams, it would mean that there would be more "participants" sharing in the profit pie.
With this thought, I think it will take more years (seasons) before we can actually see an expansion or none at all at this lifetime.
well if thats the case ($$$) thats really not gonna happen now but are there any teams that is considering joining the pba?
Cryotek
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The Cebuana Lhuillier team might be joining the PBA in 2012 season.