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Matthew wright thread

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How in the world can you call Matthew Wright a virtual unknown in the age of the internet?

only us here in IBN knows him.. outside of ibn, he's unknown including the philippine media.
 
How in the world can you call Matthew Wright a virtual unknown in the age of the internet?

Or uncertain and unproven if he can be effective in the PBA, I admit you can't know for sure, but in this day and age a proven Philippine college player like Belo isn't any different. (one should be able to make an assessent regardless if he plays in the Philippines or anywhere in the world)
 
only us here in IBN knows him.. outside of ibn, he's unknown including the philippine media.

Prior to the draft I asked a popular local journalist and analyst, if he had any inside info on how Wright would perform in the draft or if he was high in teams list. The analyst who is well connected said Wright was relatively unknown to many of the PBA coaches... I was like scratching my head :)
 
Prior to the draft I asked a popular local journalist and analyst, if he had any inside info on how Wright would perform in the draft or if he was high in teams list. The analyst who is well connected said Wright was relatively unknown to many of the PBA coaches... I was like scratching my head :)

they should hire some scouts from the IBN lol
 
they should hire some scouts from the IBN lol

enough giving of info guys.
As long as Vanguardia is the coach of Phoenix, let us not give others the idea to scout ABL hehehe
As far as I know, only vanguardia has the advantage of scouting because he had worked outside.
In short, I wanted Phoenix to be a strong team para mabreak ang clout ng evil empire at the other evil empire hehehehe
 
Prior to the draft I asked a popular local journalist and analyst, if he had any inside info on how Wright would perform in the draft or if he was high in teams list. The analyst who is well connected said Wright was relatively unknown to many of the PBA coaches... I was like scratching my head :)

You're scratching your head. Me, I'm banging my head against the wall. Now the insistence on at least 7 D-league games "so that scouts can see how they play before being drafted" make sense. It seems PBA coaches and management are too lazy or too stupid to make use of modern-day resources.
 
Or uncertain and unproven if he can be effective in the PBA, I admit you can't know for sure, but in this day and age a proven Philippine college player like Belo isn't any different. (one should be able to make an assessent regardless if he plays in the Philippines or anywhere in the world)

To be fair, many much heralded players did not immediately become superstars when they came into the league. Lets make an example: Stanley Pringle. The guy was supposed to be import level based on his credentials. He is 6'2 with great wingspan athleticism and skills. But he is actually a bit of a disappointment compared to the hype. He seems to have a lost some of the athleticism that made him a much heralded player, exposing his not so stellar outside shooting.

I guess Wright should have been the player Pringle was supposed to be. Efficient transcendent. But for some reason one slightly was below expectations the other above.

But Pheonix picked him 2nd after Belo. Where is the mistake?
 
Prior to the draft, a certain coach here in the Philippines was asked who he thinks would be among the top 5 rookie picks. I was surprised that Wright wasn't among the 5 rookies he mentioned, which made me think that maybe Wright wasn't that good in his assessment/scouting.

Well one can say that despite Wright's 22 pts.per game 40% 3pt. FG shooting in the ASEAN Basketball League (ABL), that league isn't that competitive. But what about wright's close to 17-point average in his senior year playing in an NCAA Div. 1 school in the US? Isn't that a credential worthy of such a thorough evaluation? As what analyzed have pointed out, we are now realizing w/ Kobe Paras' stint with Creighton Univ. how tough it is to excel in the US NCAA Div. 1 tournament.

I agree with analyzed questioning some coaches and experts competence in evaluating a player's potential. It is obvious that Phoenix coach Ariel Vanguardia picked Wright as the 3rd overall pick becoz Wright was his player in the ABL and he knows well what the player can do. But what if Phoenix happened to pick last in the draft, would Wright be among the top 5 picks? Would Mahindra pick Wright over the likes of Tolomia, Daquioag, Kevin Ferrer or Pogoy?
 
http://www.slamonlineph.com/matthew-wright-explodes-final-period-phoenix-upsets-merlaco/
"Contrary to popular belief, Wright isn’t just a shooter. He’s a smooth offensive player that uses a quick first step and a strong stroke to get his points. Wright is the perfect prototype for a PBA wingman because of his blend of size, speed and athleticism.

All three attributes were on display in the fourth. He was scoring on fast breaks, off turnovers, and was able to finish strong through contact. Wright doesn’t have the quickest first step, but he’s able to blow by opponents by angling his body and putting it in the best position to score."


One aspect in Wright's game that is easily being overlooked is his basketball I. Q. He has good court awareness that he knows where everybody is on the court and he is an excellent passer. Unlike some or perhaps most shooters I've seen for many years now in the PBA, Wright isn't a "trigger happy". I think he is a heady player. He reminds me of a Vergel Meneses as far as court savvy is concerned.

Some of the easy baskets that Mark Borboran made in that recent Phoenix win vs. Meralco were courtesy Wright's crisp passes. I think in terms of smarts and decision making, Wright is better than his more matured teammates like Cyrus Baguio & JC Intal.
 
To be fair, many much heralded players did not immediately become superstars when they came into the league. Lets make an example: Stanley Pringle. The guy was supposed to be import level based on his credentials. He is 6'2 with great wingspan athleticism and skills. But he is actually a bit of a disappointment compared to the hype. He seems to have a lost some of the athleticism that made him a much heralded player, exposing his not so stellar outside shooting.

I guess Wright should have been the player Pringle was supposed to be. Efficient transcendent. But for some reason one slightly was below expectations the other above.

But Pheonix picked him 2nd after Belo. Where is the mistake?

many factors can be attributed to any player's regress in terms of skill.One factor is injury >(http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketbal...on-bid-suffers-blow-as-mcl-tear-downs-pringle), which Pringle acquired before going to the PBA.Probably the reason he is not as quick as he was during his college and European playing stints.Another thing, it seems like (but this is based on my own opinion) Pringle has an impact on Romeo's progress which is a very positive thing.Besides, if Pringle was eligible to play for the NT, I think he and Romeo would handle the point guard chores in case Castro decides not to come back for Gilas.





If this are not solid stats I don't know what solid is PPG. 18.75 , RPG 5.25 , APG 3.25, SPG 1.5 (source: http://www.pba-online.net/profile/Stanley-Pringle/581/) The only thing is Terrence Romeo is scoring 27 PPG.
 
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Or uncertain and unproven if he can be effective in the PBA, I admit you can't know for sure, but in this day and age a proven Philippine college player like Belo isn't any different. (one should be able to make an assessent regardless if he plays in the Philippines or anywhere in the world)

Franz Pumaren didnt knew him? Lol
 
Wright will be easily broken down by pba coaches after 2 conferences. Remember lutz had similar averages in his rookie year.
 
To be fair, many much heralded players did not immediately become superstars when they came into the league. Lets make an example: Stanley Pringle. The guy was supposed to be import level based on his credentials. He is 6'2 with great wingspan athleticism and skills. But he is actually a bit of a disappointment compared to the hype. He seems to have a lost some of the athleticism that made him a much heralded player, exposing his not so stellar outside shooting.

I guess Wright should have been the player Pringle was supposed to be. Efficient transcendent. But for some reason one slightly was below expectations the other above.

But Pheonix picked him 2nd after Belo. Where is the mistake?

Mac Belo has more media exposure here in the Philippines,different coaches saw how he played in Uaap and Gilas while Matthew Wright has limited and short exposures in the Philippine media.I think that is the mistake why Phoenix picked Belo first before Wright.
 
Mac Belo has more media exposure here in the Philippines,different coaches saw how he played in Uaap and Gilas while Matthew Wright has limited and short exposures in the Philippine media.I think that is the mistake why Phoenix picked Belo first before Wright.

Huh?! blackwater picked belo because they own the 1st pick not phoenix.

there's no mistake belo is the 1st overall pick and wright is the 2nd ano pinagtatalunan mga tao dito?;)
 

If this are not solid stats I don't know what solid is PPG. 18.75 , RPG 5.25 , APG 3.25, SPG 1.5 (source: http://www.pba-online.net/profile/Stanley-Pringle/581/) The only thing is Terrence Romeo is scoring 27 PPG.

Correct , (BTW last PBA season Pringe avg close to 20pts, 5 assist and 5 reb a game, huh? isn't that one of the best PG's stat line) all this talk that Pringle has been figured out or Wright will soon be is grossly exagerated, granted Pringle isn't as explosive as before (remember he entered at his prime 27 yrs old) . I believe Wright's stats will also suffer dips in his 2nd , 3rd etc years. But that doesn't discount that these 2 players are any less of a player than they have been hyped or advertised to be. They may be better scouted or even suffer injuries or even plateu in terms of improvment. The point is there is no denying there skill set is there and it is at the elite level among Filipinos. Yes I can objectively say both are one of the best PG's and SG's respectively in the PBA. (there is no denying that, the stats bear that out)

Now as to the special draft - well there really isn't any confirmed order of who picked first other than Belo going 1st, some say Opstal (SMB) or Jalolon (star) went ahead of Pheonix ( Wright) , no confirmation. Here is the thing a few weeks prior to the draft most of the PBA coaches were interviewed, none of them mentioned Wright, either they were hiding their cards (intentions) or there was an unwritten agreement tha Phoenix would pick Wright. But any scout worth his salt would know Wright was easily one of the top 2 or 3 cadet prospects. ( I can confirm he was agresively recruited by Gilas upon the recommendation of coaching staff ( gilas head coach and assistant coaches) , so no question , he was highly regarded.

This is the other thing you have to remember there is maximum number of Fil-foreigners a PBA team can sign-up. This is one reason some teams simply could not sign Wright without relaseing an existing Fil-foreigner.

Here is another thing to remember about local hoops, just like anywhere in the world, there are pockets of alegience among the local colleges and associated coaches and PBA managers. Of course players with an afinity wiht local colleges like Ateneo, San beda, FEU , lassalle have a strong affiliation with PBA coaches who in one way or another have an connection to those colleges. Therefore fil-foreigners in a sense are outsiders to those cliques and networks.

Bottom line is this , you can't really generalize and stereotype, and say every filforeign shooting guard is like Lutz or Wright weak in cerrtain aspects (e.g . gulang or whatever) or over hyped. Or UAAP players 6' 3 and above are weak ball handlers like Arwin Santos lacking fundamentals.
At the end of the day you have to evaluate each player as a unique individual. And where they came from isn't really the barometer if they're good or not or your basis. what matters is what you see when you observe and scout them individually ( which there is so much film these days to figure that out and make a proper assesment )
 
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Nope. Wright's game is easy to figure out. Hindi pa napipisikal yan. Lucky to be in a weak team with a coach that favors him. Like pringle and unlike homegrowns romeo, belo and fajardo, finished product na yan. What you see right now is the best version he can be.
 
Belo is the leading rookie of the year candidate. Deserving to be 1st draft pick even if he's not a usncaa player. Pwede pala yung taga feu mas magaling pa sa isag usncaa div 1 double figure scorer. Di naman pala pipitsugin ang gawang pnoy diba?

He can play defense. Stole the ball from pringle twice. Harapharapan pa yun.
 
Belo is the leading rookie of the year candidate. Deserving to be 1st draft pick even if he's not a usncaa player. Pwede pala yung taga feu mas magaling pa sa isag usncaa div 1 double figure scorer. Di naman pala pipitsugin ang gawang pnoy diba?

He can play defense. Stole the ball from pringle twice. Harapharapan pa yun.

no argument you can be a good player coming from anywhere even from the university of timbuktu if you really have the skills.
 
Belo is the leading rookie of the year candidate. Deserving to be 1st draft pick even if he's not a usncaa player. Pwede pala yung taga feu mas magaling pa sa isag usncaa div 1 double figure scorer. Di naman pala pipitsugin ang gawang pnoy diba?

He can play defense. Stole the ball from pringle twice. Harapharapan pa yun.

Here you go with generalizing, of course you can be good even if you come from University of Timakatu as mentioned by Alex, on the same token you're not autmatically good or bad if your from a div 1 US Ncaa or UAAP or any college (even provinces) , that's the bottom line - and if your good you will take notice in this day and age of the internet.
Not sure if your just trying to Trol or what , anyway Wright is good period. How far he goes or if he continues to imporove or get figured out by other scouts more remains to be seen. Will only have to see. You can argue all you want but he already is one of the best SG in the Philippines period.
 
Nope he's not. Not even top 5. You based it on a few games pa lang. Mas marunong ka pa kesa professional scouts and coaches. They saw something in wright that is not sustainable. Kung di pa si vanguardia ang pumili ng 2nd pick, malamang di ganun kataas yung pick nya.
 
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