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Andray Blatche in Philippines National Team 2014

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manu_bol said:
pwede.

but if lee is struggling, pwedeng palitan ni jared... especially if lee's defensive assignment is scoring at will against him.

same with RDO. pag minimalas at mabilis ang matchup ni RDO, japeth can sub in and bring more quickness and length defensively.

nothing fantastic about that.
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it is lee's responsibility to perform and deliver.. no need to upgrade his size.. mehdi kamrani is 6 feet.. chris paul is 6 feet.. but do they have problems in terms of their size. no!

so lee should deliver and it is his responsibility.. he is not undersized by any means..
 
zuma169 said:
actually i dont mind dillinger and norwood as backcourt as they are capable. but analyzed has a great point. they are not practicing as such. and dillingers role is to relieve norwood. eh kung sabay sila who would relieve who..

as for blatche fajardo again i dont mind since they were trying to do that since last year but it didnt work with marcus. with blatche its a different ballgame.

what i was iffy about was the proposed dillinger rdo japeth blatche and fajardo lineup that was suggested.

i dont mind rdo as a wing shooter. but we need 2 LEGIT guards on the court at all times. and use norwood and or dillinger at guard on special occasions when needed.
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relieving this guy for this guy... puro theoretical lang yan eh... we really don't know what works... what if norwood-dillinger is more effective for a particular matchup than for example a norwood-lee? ipagpipilitan ba natin ipares si norwood with a small guard just because reliever lang talaga si jared kay norwood?

let's open our minds lang. i hope our coaches do too. let's be dynamic, flexible rather than stubborn.
 
zuma169 said:
all of these would not matter if they dont religiously practice these roles.. and bassd on the roles that were given to them by chot and tab, i doubt it..

but in dire situations, this can apply.. but only when needed..

we dont see lebron james and kevin durant at power forward that much. but they sometimes are used as such because 1. they have no choice and 2. the situation needs to..
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the thing is we are actually seeing (even if bits and pieces only) that chot has been trying out things in miami. who ever thought that ranidel will be at the wings? who ever thought that junmar would be tried out as PF? whoever thought that we would see japeth bringing the ball with chot instructing him to "work on his ball-handling"?
 
Churchill said:
Okay here's the situation, let us be coaches for a bit. :cool:

Gilas 74 - Greece 74
13 seconds left in the game

Gilas ball and call for a time out, now they huddle, they are are discussing plays to win the game, they're pumped up; Greece are big and quick!
Question is, Who do you think will be put on that court as our clutch five? HAHAHA

I would pick: Lee, Alapag, Blatche, RDO, Chan
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oh this is fun..

remember, the score is just tied. we dont need a 3.. we just need to score.. but we need shooters in case of kickouts.. i like your lineup with the exception of one.. jeff chan.. instead of jeff chan, i would put jayson castro.. castro is so underrated now that he is a respectable midrange shooter and has improved 3 point shooting..

so my lineup is: castro, alapag, lee, rdo and blatche..

we cannot push the ball inside for sure so the only way to score is through perimeter or 3 point shot..

and my play is a double high screen with castro as the ball handler and rdo and blatche executing the double high screen.. alapag and lee are position around the arc for a possible kickout.. then either rdo and blatche pops out after the screen. and this is where castro's judgement would come into play.. either he shoots it, kicks it out to either lee or alapag.. or my favorite passes it out to either rdo or blatche for the midrange shot. classic pick and roll with double high pick..
 
zuma169 said:
it is lee's responsibility to perform and deliver.. no need to upgrade his size.. mehdi kamrani is 6 feet.. chris paul is 6 feet.. but do they have problems in terms of their size. no!

so lee should deliver and it is his responsibility.. he is not undersized by any means..
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kasi you're thinking im matching up size-wise at PG...

what does jared have that paul lee don't - aside from height?
 
zuma169 said:
oh this is fun..

remember, the score is just tied. we dont need a 3.. we just need to score.. but we need shooters in case of kickouts.. i like your lineup with the exception of one.. jeff chan.. instead of jeff chan, i would put jayson castro.. castro is so underrated now that he is a respectable midrange shooter and has improved 3 point shooting..

so my lineup is: castro, alapag, lee, rdo and blatche..

we cannot push the ball inside for sure so the only way to score is through perimeter or 3 point shot..

and my play is a double high screen with castro as the ball handler and rdo and blatche executing the double high screen.. alapag and lee are position around the arc for a possible kickout.. then either rdo and blatche pops out after the screen. and this is where castro's judgement would come into play.. either he shoots it, kicks it out to either lee or alapag.. or my favorite passes it out to either rdo or blatche for the midrange shot. classic pick and roll with double high pick..
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i agree with everything, except maybe i would have tenorio over castro. tenorio has been proven to be more clutch than castro. at the jones cup, i liked how he executes the pick and roll with douthit.
 
manu_bol said:
relieving this guy for this guy... puro theoretical lang yan eh... we really don't know what works... what if norwood-dillinger is more effective for a particular matchup than for example a norwood-lee? ipagpipilitan ba natin ipares si norwood with a small guard just because reliever lang talaga si jared kay norwood?

let's open our minds lang. i hope our coaches do too. let's be dynamic, flexible rather than stubborn.
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then lets not have a system anymore.. the thing is these coaches watch films and analyze things on a daily basis and they have a system in mind. if it doesn't work of course they have to tweak a bit.. and they practice it for hours and days. eh if we are to deviate from it then lets not practice anymore. bahala na. lets just go to the game and see what works..

a lee norwood is fine.. i did not object to that.
 
manu_bol said:
kasi you're thinking im matching up size-wise at PG...

what does jared have that paul lee don't - aside from height?
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athleticism and defense at wing and perimeter.. now if we need that then its fine.. but remember sira na ang substitution patterns.. coaches also have to manage the substitutions and not just field in players at will..
 
manu_bol said:
i agree with everything, except maybe i would have tenorio over castro. tenorio has been proven to be more clutch than castro. at the jones cup, i liked how he executes the pick and roll with douthit.
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can be.. depends on who is effective at that point whether it is castro ot tenorio..
 
HAHA i like the DHS play, and for sure Castro will just slash into the mid and drop it off to Blatche or RDO for a high percentage shot. this will be our first win right here! :cool:

zuma169 said:
oh this is fun..

remember, the score is just tied. we dont need a 3.. we just need to score.. but we need shooters in case of kickouts.. i like your lineup with the exception of one.. jeff chan.. instead of jeff chan, i would put jayson castro.. castro is so underrated now that he is a respectable midrange shooter and has improved 3 point shooting..

so my lineup is: castro, alapag, lee, rdo and blatche..

we cannot push the ball inside for sure so the only way to score is through perimeter or 3 point shot..

and my play is a double high screen with castro as the ball handler and rdo and blatche executing the double high screen.. alapag and lee are position around the arc for a possible kickout.. then either rdo and blatche pops out after the screen. and this is where castro's judgement would come into play.. either he shoots it, kicks it out to either lee or alapag.. or my favorite passes it out to either rdo or blatche for the midrange shot. classic pick and roll with double high pick..
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zuma169 said:
then lets not have a system anymore.. the thing is these coaches watch films and analyze things on a daily basis and they have a system in mind. if it doesn't work of course they have to tweak a bit.. and they practice it for hours and days. eh if we are to deviate from it then lets not practice anymore. bahala na. lets just go to the game and see what works..

a lee norwood is fine.. i did not object to that.
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If we have the players, we can choose different combinations for a particular situation....let us say we are leading by 1 pt in the last 25 seconds and the ball is with the opponent....I would probably put Dillinger, Norwood, Pingris, Japeth and Blatche on the court...I think that will be the best defensive team that we have
 
Who's in, who's out: Lee, Blatche shoo-ins as Gilas names Final 12 for Fiba World Cup lineup by August 15
From: Richard Dy August 9, 2014, 12:32 pm

WITHIN a week, Gilas Pilipinas’ pool of 16 players will be reduced to the final 12 for the Fiba World Cup in Spain, set to start on August 30. Gilas team manager Aboy Castro said head coach Chot Reyes will be making the "difficult decision" of naming his final 12 players within the week - or about two weeks before the Philippines makes its return to the world basketball championships after almost four decades. “Maybe before August 15,” was Castro’s brief response to Spin.ph’s question. Reyes has previously said that he will make his final cut right on the deadline for the submission of the final lineups for the Spain showpiece. The Gilas pool is made up of 16 players so far, with Rain or Shine’s Paul Lee and Beau Belga, Meralco’s Jared Dillinger, GlobalPort's Jay Washington and new naturalized player Andray Blatche the only additions to the team that punched a ticket to Spain by finishing second in the last Fiba Asia Championship in Manila last August. The sentimental decision is to bring the entire team that finished runner-up to Iran in the Fiba Asia wars, although one spot was left open in that lineup after Larry Fonacier dropped out of the pool because of lingering injuries. Castro refused to give any hint on the final Fiba World Cup roster, although Lee appears an obvious candidate to make the cut owing to his smooth transition to international play during the Fiba Asia Cup in Wuhan, China last July. Gilas consultant Tab Baldwin earlier told Spin.ph that since Gilas is expected to be one of the smallest teams in the world championships, it is imperative for the Filipinos to utilize their speed against taller opponents. Lee obviously fits the bill.

Lee, the 2012 PBA Rookie of the Year, has the speed, the size and the outside shooting to fill the Fonacier void, although Reyes made it clear to Spin.ph last month that he will be looking at the big picture and not looking for Fonacier's replacement when he makes his final cut. The six-foot combo guard averaged 12 points and shot 50 percent from three-point zone during the weeklong tournament in China. He also scored three crucial free throws with no time left to lift Gilas to a pulsating 80-79 win over host China en route to a podium finish for the nationals in the battle for bronze. NBA free agent Blatche also appears to be a cinch to take on Douthit's spot in the World Cup, not only because of his advantage in talent but also because Gilas paid a great deal of money and went through a rigorous naturalization process to get him on board. Any other changes may be dictated by injuries or by Reyes' desire to change things up, not for the Fiba World Cup but for the Asian Games in Incheon, South Korea where Gilas has a more realistic chance of landing a medal. Other members of the pool that has been together for almost three weeks now are Jimmy Alapag, Jayson Castro, LA Tenorio, Gary David, Jeff Chan, Gabe Norwood, Marc Pingris, Ranidel de Ocampo, Japeth Aguilar, and June Mar Fajardo. So far, Gilas is 2-0 in tune-up matches after whipping the Miami Pro-Am, 95-74, before beating Elev8, 93-84 last week.

http://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...12-man-lineup-fiba-world-cup-chot-reyes-spain
 
De Ocampo at the 3 spot is a recipe for disaster. He'll be too slow to cover the Bogdanovics, the Balkmans, and the Nocionis of the tournament. Plus, his shot release is way too slow, I think he'll actually be one of the team's least effective players this tournament. It's best to stick with Norwood and Dillinger at the small forward. Team Pilipinas real weakness is size at the 3 spot.

Blatche + June Mar/Japeth is OK if Blatche is as effective from the high post as the video clips in Miami have indicated. Plus Fajardo has to be alert for the boards. He can't play soft as he'll be the main rebounding guy in this scenario.

Blatche, Fajardo/Aguilar, Norwood/Dillinger, Chan/Dillinger/Norwood, Lee/Castro/Alapag would be the ideal depth chart, at least to me. We'll still be playing to our strengths without giving up *way* too much on either end.

Jay Washington would have been the ideal 3 guy if he only he could hit the 3 pointer.
 
lakers4sho said:
De Ocampo at the 3 spot is a recipe for disaster.He'll be too slow to cover the Bogdanovics, the Balkmans, and the Nocionis of the tournament. Plus, his shot release is way too slow, I think he'll actually be one of the team's least effective players this tournament. It's best to stick with Norwood and Dillinger at the small forward. Team Pilipinas real weakness is size at the 3 spot.

Blatche + June Mar/Japeth is OK if Blatche is as effective from the high post as the video clips in Miami have indicated. Plus Fajardo has to be alert for the boards. He can't play soft as he'll be the main rebounding guy in this scenario.

Blatche, Fajardo/Aguilar, Norwood/Dillinger, Chan/Dillinger/Norwood, Lee/Castro/Alapag would be the ideal depth chart, at least to me. We'll still be playing to our strengths without giving up *way* too much on either end.

Jay Washington would have been the ideal 3 guy if he only he could hit the 3 pointer.
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*see gilas against China FIBA asia cup 2014
 
neo said:
The best defense is a great offense (Blatche) :)
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as a team even with blatche, our offense isn't still at par as Argentinians Puerto ricans and the Europeans in our group..A defensive c to complement our dribble drive offense will give us slight chance..We always been defeated by Iran/ (and China w/ Yi in 2011) in games that count because we cannot stop their big man..
 
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