2013 PBA Commisioners Cup

[Jay P. Mercado2]

i am just glad noli eala is out of the SBP objectively speaking.. he is totally mishandling the teams of SMC.. right from the start, my opinion was that Olsen Racela though a great player is still too young to handle petron.. yes he will be a great coach no doubt, but handling a team where some of the players you have played with just years ago i think is wrong!!! they will have a tendency not to respect you even if they respected you as the leader team captain of the team previously..

and with ginebra, they had wrong players and wrong coaches handling the team.. ginebra was fortunate they faced a talk n text team who had import problems and 4 of 5 starters injured/not playing.. or else it would have been a blowout series in favor of tnt.. yes mark caguioa is injured but only him, not unlike TNT where they had Kelly, JD, and Jimmy (as well as RDO) not playing up to their potential.. and yes they went the whole 5 games by the way..

noli eala clearly is PRESSURED to win NOW (probably as ordered by RSA or probably what HE promised RSA he would do) that is why he is stacking his teams with super players because that is the easiest way to win now.. unfortunately, they all went against teams who REALLY LIKE PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER (character players) in the mold of TNT, Alaska and ROS..

In fairness, Eala could have done well at the SBP if he learned how to work with the others in the MVP Group and not been antagonistic. Eala's skills in negotiating for the best talents outside the SMC teams would have served in good stead for our national team. He would have signed up quality amateur players (just like what he did with Casio, Tiu, Barroca, Baracael, et al) and prepared them for the long grind with Gilas. He would have been able to negotiate for the services of the PBA players to suit up for the national team had this been the direction given to him. Short of saying, Eala delivers as per the instructions given him.

The problem is...Eala was given a role more than just a go-fer. He was asked to handle the front office management of the 3 SMC teams. He may have worked with the 3 SMC coaches in getting players for their respective teams - and he was able to secure most of their needs. But a general manager doesn't just give what coaches ask for. Of course, the coaches will ask for quality players - one because they want him to play for their team, another, because they avoid having to go up against him. It's Eala who needs to make the call if the players being asked are suited to be part of the team.

 

[zuma1692]

In fairness, Eala could have done well at the SBP if he learned how to work with the others in the MVP Group and not been antagonistic. Eala's skills in negotiating for the best talents outside the SMC teams would have served in good stead for our national team. He would have signed up quality amateur players (just like what he did with Casio, Tiu, Barroca, Baracael, et al) and prepared them for the long grind with Gilas. He would have been able to negotiate for the services of the PBA players to suit up for the national team had this been the direction given to him. Short of saying, Eala delivers as per the instructions given him.

The problem is...Eala was given a role more than just a go-fer. He was asked to handle the front office management of the 3 SMC teams. He may have worked with the 3 SMC coaches in getting players for their respective teams - and he was able to secure most of their needs. But a general manager doesn't just give what coaches ask for. Of course, the coaches will ask for quality players - one because they want him to play for their team, another, because they avoid having to go up against him. It's Eala who needs to make the call if the players being asked are suited to be part of the team.

true, fair point.. in terms of getting the needed tools, no doubt eala can get it done.. he is experienced and can really wiggle his way just to get what he wants or what is needed.. you are right.. he is technically a special position in the SMC group, but realistically we know who he is within the conglomerate.. he is the general manager of the 3 teams.. similar to the GM's of NBA, MLB and NFL.. not just to get players, but the whole administration of the team..

it makes me think what the roles of Rene Pardo, Eli Capacio and Robert Non are since they are the governors of the team.. they are the so called "Pat Riley" of the SMC teams.. well, eala's role is just really to make sure the teams needs are delivered, but as you have said eala's role seems to have gone beyond even stepping at times with these board governors..

 

[Big Ticket2]

Eala i think does not have full control of sanmig coffee...he rarely tweets about them regarding import negotiations and trades...

 

[Jay P. Mercado2]

true, fair point.. in terms of getting the needed tools, no doubt eala can get it done.. he is experienced and can really wiggle his way just to get what he wants or what is needed.. you are right.. he is technically a special position in the SMC group, but realistically we know who he is within the conglomerate.. he is the general manager of the 3 teams.. similar to the GM's of NBA, MLB and NFL.. not just to get players, but the whole administration of the team..

it makes me think what the roles of Rene Pardo, Eli Capacio and Robert Non are since they are the governors of the team.. they are the so called "Pat Riley" of the SMC teams.. well, eala's role is just really to make sure the teams needs are delivered, but as you have said eala's role seems to have gone beyond even stepping at times with these board governors..

Nothing to do with the team personnel. They take care of the team's budgetary allocation and represents their respective teams in the PBA Board. As far as team rosters are concerned, that's the call of the coach, the team manager (Samboy Lim, Hector Calma and Alvin Patrimonio) and Eala. Once everything has been ironed out, Capacio et al talks to their counterparts from other teams to make the deal. Mere coordination work since Eala has no representation to the other Board of Governors. Lito Alvarez, Manny Alvarez and company can only deal with their Board colleagues when it comes to trade talks.

 

[Jay P. Mercado2]

Eala i think does not have full control of sanmig coffee...he rarely tweets about them regarding import negotiations and trades...

Yes, Tim Cone runs the show there. But if Cone needs to make a deal, it goes to Capacio and Eala. Eala gets approval from RSA in this regard.

 

[Big Ticket2]

Yes, Tim Cone runs the show there. But if Cone needs to make a deal, it goes to Capacio and Eala. Eala gets approval from RSA in this regard.

Thats why sanmig has been the most consistent SMC team hehe

 

[killmebusy2]

Huge win for the aces...not that they were the underdogs this series but a lot of people were treating them that way at the start of the championship. Couldn't see why though...for me it was always gonna be a sweep. The bgsm time machine has indeed run out of juice...kerby, rudy, jj and a hobbled mc47 were shut out by their younger counterparts on both sides of the floor. macklin hurting was the real key though...it would have been a lot closer had he been healthy. la was the lone consistent bright spot for the barangay and he really can't do it all on his own.

i can't believe trillo got his first pba title this quickly considering his track record of futility and his formerly whining ways.

Tnt is old and hurting...same can be said with bgsm and smc to some extent. barako, gp and air are still bottom feeders. petron and meralco have the pieces but can't seem to put it together. Gonna be a fun couple of years in the pba since now ROS and alaska are on top and in their primes. And the best thing about it is that these 2 teams built their rosters the right way...thru fair trades and good drafting - no hoarding and no bully trading. this early i'm predicting a ROS-Alaska title tiff for the 3rd conference.

 

[arkuo142]

Sonny, JV, Dondon and Cyrus did a good job in getting Calvin his comfort zone while at the same time making sure Abueva does not get out-of-control.

Alaska coaching staff and team management did a splendid job in handling the "larung labas" incident of Calvin and Gabby Espinas, it made Calvin realize Alaska understands him and it is the right team for him. And that he would do everything or anything just to make Alaska a Champion Team.

This is also a good angle. Alaska has an interesting mix of players. While Ginebra can freely give hard fouls to Abueva, they seem to let Casio and Thoss do their thing which actually killed them in the 4th. An interesting mix of players like Casio and Thoss who play with the system mixed with street ballers like Abueva seem to hit the spot for Alaska. Not too shabby. 14th championship. Aces beat Kings, and not only in poker.

 

[brod782]

congrats to alaska. just wondering thou, if this could be the most lop-sided finals series in pba - a sweep and an ave lead in double-digit. also the ave gate attendance should be monstrous.

 

[reamily2]

Whatever happens in tonight's game, LA Tenorio is a cinch to make it to the final 12-man lineup for the national team. Not just because he's playing well, not just because of his clutch skills, not because he was adjudged Best Player of the Conference, but moreso, because Chot Reyes cannot afford not to insert a Ginebra player in the lineup.

With more than 23,400 fans coming tonight at the Big Dome, the presence of Tenorio will be a big help in drawing crowds to the SM Mall of Arena in the FIBA-Asia. For that reason alone, it would be a no-brainer on Chot's part to insert Tenorio in the final 12.

What if Japeth is traded to Ginebra?

 

[ricodgame2]

congrats to Alaska!

btw is it only me who thinks Calvin Abueva just got robbed for his 2nd straight BPC award?

 

[brod782]

congrats to Alaska!

btw is it only me who thinks Calvin Abueva just got robbed for his 2nd straight BPC award?

Im not sure if this type of award requires consolidated votes from players, the media etc but if that is the case, he could be antagonizing most of them bcoz of his on-court antics.

 

[ricodgame2]

yes. idk but the difference between PBA media and NBA media. -- PBA votes their favorite players(and bias) while NBA votes for the best player

Im not sure if this type of award requires consolidated votes from players, the media etc but if that is the case, he could be antagonizing most of them bcoz of his on-court antics.

 

[privateEYE2]

He's lucky San Miguel is on a roll at the ABL.

otherwise, he's head will roll.

 

[Big Ticket2]

congrats to Alaska!

btw is it only me who thinks Calvin Abueva just got robbed for his 2nd straight BPC award?

Nope...calvin did not derserve the AFC BPC...and for the 2nd conf, it was really a toss-up, no clear winner so LA winning it did not raise much eyebrows...

 

[Spenz2]

is Anthony Severino and Jay P. Mercado part of the ones who voted from the media?

 

[killmebusy2]

yes. idk but the difference between PBA media and NBA media. -- PBA votes their favorite players(and bias) while NBA votes for the best player

yes actually this was my point a couple weeks ago...whoever deserves the MVP - may he be a rookie, a 15 year vet, a heart throb or a hated person - should win it regardless. I'm not saying calvin deserves it coz LA practically did more heavy lifting this conference but come the end of the year awards, I would want to see the real, true MVP...and if come that time it is a much maligned, rookie, kanto boy who deserves it then by all means he should get it...biases aside. I shoudln't be raising this point since people in the media are supposedly impartial anyway.

since the 2nd conference is now done...i'd just like to clarify if the SPs are now counted on the player's averages and not the totals anymore...i remember when kelly won the MVP he lead the SP race and it was in the thousands not like what they are posting now which look like averages. since we're at it, who are now the league leaders in SP?

 

[Epithetless2]

Im not sure if this type of award requires consolidated votes from players, the media etc but if that is the case, he could be antagonizing most of them bcoz of his on-court antics.

I think it is 40% SP's, 5% commissioner's office, 25% players and 30% media. I could be wrong though and confusing it with MVP voting.

 

[killmebusy2]

I think it is 40% SP's, 5% commissioner's office, 25% players and 30% media. I could be wrong though and confusing it with MVP voting.

there really are players' votes? wow...how wrong is that. the pba does not track win shares? i don't also know the formula for that but that can also be a useful stat for determining individual awards.

since it has been brought up...caguioa won the mvp award last year when his team did not even enter the finals in any conference nor did they finish in the top 2 of the elims in any of the conferences. so how did he win? did he even lead the SP?

 

[Epithetless2]

yes actually this was my point a couple weeks ago...whoever deserves the MVP - may he be a rookie, a 15 year vet, a heart throb or a hated person - should win it regardless. I'm not saying calvin deserves it coz LA practically did more heavy lifting this conference but come the end of the year awards, I would want to see the real, true MVP...and if come that time it is a much maligned, rookie, kanto boy who deserves it then by all means he should get it...biases aside. I shoudln't be raising this point since people in the media are supposedly impartial anyway.

since the 2nd conference is now done...i'd just like to clarify if the SPs are now counted on the player's averages and not the totals anymore...i remember when kelly won the MVP he lead the SP race and it was in the thousands not like what they are posting now which look like averages. since we're at it, who are now the league leaders in SP?

http://www.pba-online.net/statistical-points/ these are in the averages format. I think in the 'numeric' terms you mentioned, I read somewhere (maybe spin) it was 427 for Calvin and 424 for LA so very close SP race.

ETA: Found the Spin article with points breakdown for top two BPC nominees, I think these numbers are already weighted so all that's left is to add them up to get BPC points. http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketbal...laska-rookie-abueva-for-best-player-award-v02