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2012-2013 PBA Philippine Cup

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Jay P. Mercado said:
Whether Yeo is shipped or not won't impact too much on the team. They have Lassiter and Lutz there already so Yeo would only be able to provide quality minutes. Perhaps, Petron can maximize by shipping him out but as I mentioned, it won't make Petron less of a champion team if they don't. Besides, on the realistic perspective, Yeo is practically "untradeable."
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Is he that close with the management? ;)
 
DT as a fan of Petron, what is the expectation for this conference ? What would be considered success or failure.? And BTW normally if teams fail to meet expectations, it’s the coaches who are first to go not the players, the old saying players win games and coaches lose them
 
Jay P. Mercado said:
YES! All the way to the top!
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Ugh.

DT as a fan of Petron, what is the expectation for this conference ? What would be considered success or failure.? And BTW normally if teams fail to meet expectations, it’s the coaches who are first to go not the players, the old saying players win games and coaches lose them
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Expectations for the SEASON actually. Personally, AT LEAST 1 title and 2 Finals appearances. Failure would be not getting into any Finals series.

And no, the "player wins games and coaches lose them" does not apply here because it's Racela's first year-- we can consider evaluating (and firing him) after the season but not between conferences.
 
In petron's 3 games so far, arwind and jwash has played together for a total of.......


.....ONE MINUTE (the last minute of their game vs sanmig)
 
Big Ticket said:
In petron's 3 games so far, arwind and jwash has played together for a total of.......


.....ONE MINUTE (the last minute of their game vs sanmig)
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well, if trade happens.. Santos should go to one of SMC's bitches (Air21, barako bull, Global Port)
 
Oh yeah, mark yee with a DX chop after his posterization of kwill....
 
Petron sucks except for the last few minutes of the game where they rallied to cut the lead of San Mig.
 
Jay P. Mercado said:
I agree that J-Wash should be moved. Given a choice between him and Santos, I'd stick with the latter. But realistically, J-Wash would probably need to move to Ginebra although the Kings have already shored up their forward lineup with the inclusion of Ellis and Jensen. J-Wash is at his best playing the #3 slot so I don't know if he still has a slot there. I don't think San Mig Coffee would get him as well but imagine if they do? The Mixers would be extremely difficult to beat.
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I like the idea...thinking of Jwash-JDV on 1 team and I guess they can play together!
 
After roughly two weeks of play:

Teams W-L
San Mig Coffee 2-0
Talk 'N Text 2-0
Barangay Ginebra 2-1
Meralco 2-1
Rain or Shine 2-1
Air21 1-2
Alaska 1-2
Barako Bull 1-2
Petron Blaze 1-2
Globalport 0-3
 
durden_tyler said:
After roughly two weeks of play:

Teams W-L
San Mig Coffee 2-0
Talk 'N Text 2-0
Barangay Ginebra 2-1
Meralco 2-1
Rain or Shine 2-1
Air21 1-2
Alaska 1-2
Barako Bull 1-2
Petron Blaze 1-2
Globalport 0-3
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despite having a 1-2 win/loss record
i'm very impress with the Air21 Express.
This time,the bottom dweller last season has been playing above from expectation as they were managed to end 2 of their loss within 3 points.
The taha guy needs to develop an automatic jumper (mala dennis espino)
 
Totally agree with JWash for Sean Anthony. Tubid is another black hole. Don't need him.
If we can't trade Yeo, trade Denok..Barako will take him..

JWash+Denok=Sean Anthony+somebody better give us a 2013 first rounder if Barako doesn't have one.

Lutz/Mallari or even Lassiter can sub at the point. They're versatile players with the skills IMO.
 
I don't understand why you guys want JWash to be shipped out. He is fast emerging as the leader of this new look Petron squad, i think the JF (6'10") - Jwash (6'7") is already a formidable frontline. Sean Anthony is 6'4" same as Arwind Santos, you be back to the old problem, besides Anthony is now being trained as an SF. lots of new faces already so when will the trading stop? Like i said, give it time for chemistry to set in and the roles to be defined.
 
swish#20 said:
I don't understand why you guys want JWash to be shipped out. He is fast emerging as the leader of this new look Petron squad, i think the JF (6'10") - Jwash (6'7") is already a formidable frontline. Sean Anthony is 6'4" same as Arwind Santos, you be back to the old problem, besides Anthony is now being trained as an SF. lots of new faces already so when will the trading stop? Like i said, give it time for chemistry to set in and the roles to be defined.
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You still want to give them time when it really seems that it is not working? And more time?
 
swish#20 said:
I don't understand why you guys want JWash to be shipped out. He is fast emerging as the leader of this new look Petron squad, i think the JF (6'10") - Jwash (6'7") is already a formidable frontline. Sean Anthony is 6'4" same as Arwind Santos, you be back to the old problem, besides Anthony is now being trained as an SF. lots of new faces already so when will the trading stop? Like i said, give it time for chemistry to set in and the roles to be defined.
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Do understand that the premise was that a Santos-Washington combination can NOT co-exist. If any, the trade idea was to ship one of them (yes, both would be a stretch) and it just so happened that Washington was the example. Personally, i don't care who stays or who goes, tweak the trade to Santos+somebody for Anthony+somebody and i still like the deal.

As for Anthony? He's not a ball-stopper-- Washington and Santos are. He's effective OFF the ball most times-- Washington and Santos can be effective but not nearly consistent enough like Anthony. He's not a chucker-- Washington and Santos are not the pure chuckers (this is Joseph Yeo) but they have a tendency to be a black hole on offense.

Chemistry, roles to be defined... sure sure let's wait. But do accept the fact that Petron is going to stay mediocre while we're working at it-- heck, Petron fans are numb now for we've been sucking the past 2-3 years already.
 
It was Dennis Rodman playing for the "Bad Boys", Detroit Pistons who gave Scottie Pippen of the Chicago Bulls a hematoma after slamming him against the basket support off of a loose ball in the infamous (for Scottie) “ the migraine game” played during the first of the three-peat championship run of the Bulls.

This was only one of so many, maybe thousands, of untold cruelties inflicted against each other dished out by both teams on the court that have transpired during the drive of the Chicago Bulls to finally wrestle away the championship from the stranglehold of the Pistons of the Eastern conference dominance in the NBA.

Having said that… guess who later played the prime role of power forward for the Bulls in their second three-peat championship run, two years after the first?

Correct!

It was Dennis Rodman... really, basketball version of team chemistry all boils down to players being true professionals and management together with the coaching staff holding all relative personnel accountable for all things positive to the betterment of the team.

J-Wash and Arwind Santos... the two can and should play together, no rocket science involved there, but just the ol' time shield of “professionalism”.

Easily, Jay Washington could perform at peak playing 3 or 4 with relative ease, while Santos can play 2 or 3 with equal proficiency. Not really a problem, but the real problem plaguing the team is really the pig-headedness and monstrous egos of all involved clashing negatively that has so far without the correct or proper upper management intervention have proven disastrous for the team.

I was sick to my stomach having to find Rodman sharing battle scar moments with the invinciBULLS, but hey! Nothing but a few championships in a row could not solve!

Washington and Santos... sure, they should play together because under the circumstances belabored and stressed above, they could!

Now, if Yeo could only play team ball, wow! That’s a thought..... Crisis over!
 
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The Fajardo injury-- if out as reported for a number of weeks might just light a fire under Petron's asses (particularly, Washington and Santos) and maybe they can build more chemistry while the big man is out.

i am not banking on it but it could happen.
 
To all the teams,

Please beat the hell out of Air21

Sincerely,

GSM
 
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