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killmebusy2
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that and the under the table deals stop...
well, i guess he doesn't give a damn...not like we are rooting for him to make the final cut though.
SBP Long-Term National Pool (Vol. XIX)
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that and the under the table deals stop...
well, i guess he doesn't give a damn...not like we are rooting for him to make the final cut though.
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Pilyong Husband2
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that and the under the table deals stop...
True true. Poor Enrico. Most of us here are pretty much giving him a backhanded compliment. Ballsy as he is, he's still past his best years.
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digitalsuperman2
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Under Racela’s lead, Philippine youth team ready to defend SEABA U-18 crown
Under Racela’s lead, Philippine youth team ready to defend SEABA U-18 crown
Under Racela’s lead, Philippine youth team ready to defend SEABA U-18 crown
The Philippine national Under-18 basketball team is set to leave for Singapore on Monday to compete in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (SEABA) Under-18 Championships to be held at the Singapore Basketball Centre from June 26-30.
The five-team meet will feature the Philippines, host Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and Laos, with the top three squads qualifying for the 22nd FIBA Asia Under-18 Championships in Ulan Bator, Mongolia later this year.
Despite some early road bumps for the Under-18 team, particularly in finding a sponsor for the team, coach Olsen Racela remains in good spirits about his team’s situation heading into the SEABA tilt.
“Although we’ve had little time to prepare, we’re very optimistic,” said Racela. “The practices have been good. The practice games have been good, we’re improving every game.”
With a lack of a sponsor, the formation of the team and the ensuing preparations began late for Racela and his players. The SBP has lent its support to the team, but the few weeks they’ve had to get ready for the SEABA meet was rushed, though it ensures the country’s participation in the event.
“Hindi pwedeng hindi tayo represented sa FIBA-sanctioned competitions,” the coach said. “Also, we’re the defending champions in the Under-18 so we want to defend that.”
The SEABA lineup will include five holdovers from the Racela-helmed Energen Pilipinas Under-16 national team that competed in the FIBA Asia Under-16 Championships in Vietnam last year.
J-Jay Alejandro and Hubert Cani of National University, Jay Javelosa of Reedley International, Prince Rivero of La Salle Greenhills, and Isaac Go of Xavier School will again be part of the national team, alongside newcomers Rey Nambatac of Letran, RR De Leon and Marc Olayon of University of the East, Mario Bonleon of LSGH, Kent Lao of UST, Kyle Suarez of the University of the Philippines and Jorem Morada of EAC.
Though the Kiefer Ravena-led Nokia Pilipinas Under-18 team breezed through the SEABA tilt two years ago, sweeping their five games by a winning margin of over 50 points per game, Racela remains cautious of their Southeast Asian rivals, particularly Indonesia and Singapore.
“We were supposed to play Indonesia last Saturday when they were here,” said Racela. “Pero nagkasakit yung players nila so hindi namin sila nakalaro. Ang coach nila si Coach Nat Canson so I’m sure ibang system na naman doon sa nakalaban namin sa SEABA Under-16 last time.”
Aside from having an experienced coach like Canson, Indonesia also boasts of good size, with a player standing 6-10 and another at 6-7. His side has an average height of 6-3.
Racela is also wary of hosts Singapore, which will be led by the 6-7 Delvin Goh, who was already named to the lineup of the both the Singapore Slingers in the ABL and the Singapore men’s national team in the Southeast Asian Games despite being just 16 years of age.
Racela also took the time out to express his gratitude the schools and the leagues who have allowed their players to don the national colors.
“Pasalamat lang sa schools who let their players play for the national team,” said Racela. “Lalo na ang NU, who are the UAAP hosts this year. Aayusin nila ang schedule para makalaro si Hubert Cani tsaka si Jerie Pingoy of FEU sa FIBA Asia.”
The UAAP is reportedly planning to keep the Juniors schedule clear of any games during the stretch of August 17 to 26, so as not to conflict with the international basketball schedule.
“We hope the NCAA will follow that lead because we have players from the NCAA also. Ang EAC, pinahiram na si Jorem sa SEABA and La Salle Greenhills pinahiram na si Mario. We just hope the league also fixes its schedule para makalaro rin sila sa FIBA Asia.”
Under Racela’s lead, Philippine youth team ready to defend SEABA U-18 crown
Under Racela’s lead, Philippine youth team ready to defend SEABA U-18 crown
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http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/under-racelas-lead-philippine-youth-team-ready-to-defend-seaba-u-18-crownThe Philippine national Under-18 basketball team is set to leave for Singapore on Monday to compete in the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (SEABA) Under-18 Championships to be held at the Singapore Basketball Centre from June 26-30.
The five-team meet will feature the Philippines, host Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia and Laos, with the top three squads qualifying for the 22nd FIBA Asia Under-18 Championships in Ulan Bator, Mongolia later this year.
Despite some early road bumps for the Under-18 team, particularly in finding a sponsor for the team, coach Olsen Racela remains in good spirits about his team’s situation heading into the SEABA tilt.
“Although we’ve had little time to prepare, we’re very optimistic,” said Racela. “The practices have been good. The practice games have been good, we’re improving every game.”
With a lack of a sponsor, the formation of the team and the ensuing preparations began late for Racela and his players. The SBP has lent its support to the team, but the few weeks they’ve had to get ready for the SEABA meet was rushed, though it ensures the country’s participation in the event.
“Hindi pwedeng hindi tayo represented sa FIBA-sanctioned competitions,” the coach said. “Also, we’re the defending champions in the Under-18 so we want to defend that.”
The SEABA lineup will include five holdovers from the Racela-helmed Energen Pilipinas Under-16 national team that competed in the FIBA Asia Under-16 Championships in Vietnam last year.
J-Jay Alejandro and Hubert Cani of National University, Jay Javelosa of Reedley International, Prince Rivero of La Salle Greenhills, and Isaac Go of Xavier School will again be part of the national team, alongside newcomers Rey Nambatac of Letran, RR De Leon and Marc Olayon of University of the East, Mario Bonleon of LSGH, Kent Lao of UST, Kyle Suarez of the University of the Philippines and Jorem Morada of EAC.
Though the Kiefer Ravena-led Nokia Pilipinas Under-18 team breezed through the SEABA tilt two years ago, sweeping their five games by a winning margin of over 50 points per game, Racela remains cautious of their Southeast Asian rivals, particularly Indonesia and Singapore.
“We were supposed to play Indonesia last Saturday when they were here,” said Racela. “Pero nagkasakit yung players nila so hindi namin sila nakalaro. Ang coach nila si Coach Nat Canson so I’m sure ibang system na naman doon sa nakalaban namin sa SEABA Under-16 last time.”
Aside from having an experienced coach like Canson, Indonesia also boasts of good size, with a player standing 6-10 and another at 6-7. His side has an average height of 6-3.
Racela is also wary of hosts Singapore, which will be led by the 6-7 Delvin Goh, who was already named to the lineup of the both the Singapore Slingers in the ABL and the Singapore men’s national team in the Southeast Asian Games despite being just 16 years of age.
Racela also took the time out to express his gratitude the schools and the leagues who have allowed their players to don the national colors.
“Pasalamat lang sa schools who let their players play for the national team,” said Racela. “Lalo na ang NU, who are the UAAP hosts this year. Aayusin nila ang schedule para makalaro si Hubert Cani tsaka si Jerie Pingoy of FEU sa FIBA Asia.”
The UAAP is reportedly planning to keep the Juniors schedule clear of any games during the stretch of August 17 to 26, so as not to conflict with the international basketball schedule.
“We hope the NCAA will follow that lead because we have players from the NCAA also. Ang EAC, pinahiram na si Jorem sa SEABA and La Salle Greenhills pinahiram na si Mario. We just hope the league also fixes its schedule para makalaro rin sila sa FIBA Asia.”
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durden_tyler2
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And kelan naman ako napikon? And yes, I am a superfan ... not of either camp, but of basketball in general. That's why I try as best as possible to playfully deride both evil empires. I don't think it's a crime. I still cannot understand why the ouburst? Ganon ba kasakit ang nasabi ko?
So do I have to walk on eggshells now when I post here? Do I have to treat you with kid gloves when I post? Like I said earlier, lighten up man. It seems you take things too seriously.
Ikaw talaga ... masyado kang emosyonal ... ang puso mo. O, baka naman lalo ka pang maasar niyan.
Teeheee.
Good day to you too.
i'll chalk up this one up with your frustrations-- hirap talaga kasi pag ganyan undecided ka.
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reamily2
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MVP is a savvy and a great executive thats why investors and metro pacific trusted him to handle their finances come on the guy live all his life doing what he does best..
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reamily2
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Enrico is to be remembered by playing his best prime years to the most unfit coach possible (the Jacobs disciples Jong and Siot)
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SinVerGuenza2
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hmmmm. interesting. they got some big kids over there. what about us? who are our tallest high school players? do we have anybody in the country legit over 6'8"?
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analyzed2
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I find this whole situation quite amusing. Let’s just rewind a little bit of the events that transpired
- The 3 year Gilas progamme is created, with the hope no longer to rely on the PBA at least not as much for players
- The PBA after watching FIBA Asia decides they want to contribute / loan players again for the next FIBA Asia, for the sake of goodwill Gilas decides to allow their players to join the PBA draft
- Chot courts the PBA and negotiates for the board to approve a 16 man PBA pool, some teams (e.g. Alaska, Rain or shine release their players, others w/ Gilas players are disallowed)
- Gilas bares their plans for a cadet team, (a la Gilas I programme) intending to keep players from turning pro and the draft, PBA teams cry foul !
What a joke, haven’t we learned our lesson- You can’t depend and rely on the PBA for players without consequences, Nothing is free, there’s always something you have to give in return. I still go back to the original premise of Gilas- You can’t rely on the PBA for players long term. This has always been Utenysus beef, and this recent turn of events just proved he is correct. Chot can sugar coat the intent of the Gilas program all he wants. But the bottom line is it will always come down to the same issue- Loaning PBA players and keeping NT players. Didn’t we already know that ! Ay Naku
- The 3 year Gilas progamme is created, with the hope no longer to rely on the PBA at least not as much for players
- The PBA after watching FIBA Asia decides they want to contribute / loan players again for the next FIBA Asia, for the sake of goodwill Gilas decides to allow their players to join the PBA draft
- Chot courts the PBA and negotiates for the board to approve a 16 man PBA pool, some teams (e.g. Alaska, Rain or shine release their players, others w/ Gilas players are disallowed)
- Gilas bares their plans for a cadet team, (a la Gilas I programme) intending to keep players from turning pro and the draft, PBA teams cry foul !
What a joke, haven’t we learned our lesson- You can’t depend and rely on the PBA for players without consequences, Nothing is free, there’s always something you have to give in return. I still go back to the original premise of Gilas- You can’t rely on the PBA for players long term. This has always been Utenysus beef, and this recent turn of events just proved he is correct. Chot can sugar coat the intent of the Gilas program all he wants. But the bottom line is it will always come down to the same issue- Loaning PBA players and keeping NT players. Didn’t we already know that ! Ay Naku
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durden_tyler2
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Double post
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durden_tyler2
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Your most sensible post yet. The reality is that after all of what happened (controversies and whatnot) we haven't seen a single memorandum of agreement (therefore: no real talk between the biggest stakeholder and the national federation) between the PBA and SBP.
What is the freaking plan, SBP? And does the PBA (admittedly, the powerful of the two entities) know about those plans?
As Nardy mentioned, Trillo whining could end up as a good thing too: maybe they'd actually start clearing up things about these plans and future programs. (While they are at it, talking to UAAP/NCAA is vital as well)
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SinVerGuenza2
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bingo. it was never the pba's responsibility to send its players to international competitions. it's a commercial league first, second, and then third. this "cadet" issue was sorta done before anyway with the orig gilas. in a few years, they'll all end up in the pba anyway, just like gilas uno.
so why all the fuss this time around?
me thinks trillo is just deflecting his current failures on other issues. they want his head on the chopping block over in pex. the alaska faithful ain't too happy that's for sure.
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nardy2
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that and the under the table deals stop...
Enrico might not be our ideal player but he has the balls to stand-up against his mother team because of his desire to play for the National Team, it does not matter if he is assured a playing spot or he'll be cutted as long as he perform his duty as a Philippine Citizen. He does not care whatever the repercussion as his Patriotism comes first.
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digitalsuperman2
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i believe we do. but they aren't made available by their respective educational institution
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SinVerGuenza2
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i believe we do. but they aren't made available by their respective educational institution
thanks for replying. the deafening silence made me think we'll be fielding in midget centers and power forwards again for the next decade.
any names you can throw around?
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privateEYE2
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Ang unang pikon ang laging talo
Don't worry, i still think you're not one of 'em superfans though lately you've been acting like one. IBN will understand that you're just a little frustrated
don't you consider yourself a "superfan"?
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epic_dream2
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dont be too harsh on dt sir...
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privateEYE2
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Though Luigi's crying is understandable, why don't we put ourselves in the other side of the fence for a moment and understand SBP's position.
They (Alaska) are saying that SBP does not need to lock-in amateur players and just let them join the draft since PBA teams will lend them anyway.
Okay, what if suddenly PBA decided not to lend their players and will come up with whatever excuse they can think of not to lend their players? What will happen now to our NT?
Maybe this is the reason why SBP wanted the cadet pool to be lock-in to the program. If they can put it in the agreement that whoever SBP chooses to join the NT team, PBA teams should comply, no if's and but's then SBP will be complacent to let amateur players join the draft.
Btw, to be fair to each PBA team, why don't they give incentives to those teams that will lend players to the NT against those who do not.
Example, currently Alaska is lending their players to NT and SMC teams are not. Next year, if Alaska played against an SMC team, they will have +20 points advantage. Meaning, SMC teams can win over Alaska only if they have 20+ point lead.
Something like that.
They (Alaska) are saying that SBP does not need to lock-in amateur players and just let them join the draft since PBA teams will lend them anyway.
Okay, what if suddenly PBA decided not to lend their players and will come up with whatever excuse they can think of not to lend their players? What will happen now to our NT?
Maybe this is the reason why SBP wanted the cadet pool to be lock-in to the program. If they can put it in the agreement that whoever SBP chooses to join the NT team, PBA teams should comply, no if's and but's then SBP will be complacent to let amateur players join the draft.
Btw, to be fair to each PBA team, why don't they give incentives to those teams that will lend players to the NT against those who do not.
Example, currently Alaska is lending their players to NT and SMC teams are not. Next year, if Alaska played against an SMC team, they will have +20 points advantage. Meaning, SMC teams can win over Alaska only if they have 20+ point lead.
Something like that.
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SinVerGuenza2
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don't you consider yourself a "superfan"?
for all the time i've been here i can safely say he is. an insufferable petron/smc fanboy with a giant ego to boost. notice how he considers all of ibn agreeable on his views. talk about dellusions of grandeur.
he does raise some valid points on occasion though. but if you want unfiltered/unbiased opinions on anything pinoy basketball, nardy and jpm are your go-to guys. best take dt's statements with a grain of salt.
pilyong husband, on the otherhand can be quite annoyingly abrasive with his lingo. sometimes i think he's a troll though. just look at how he got dt's goat. haha but he's got good insight/info too. i got into the "for the win" stuff through his posts.
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nardy2
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http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=819679&publicationsubcategoryid=69
Chemistry an issue in SEABA tilt
By Joaquin Henson The Philippine Star Updated June 22, 2012 12:00 AM
MANILA, Philippines - Joseph Uichico said yesterday chemistry is an issue the Philippine team must address quickly in preparing for the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (SEABA) championships set in Chiang Mai, Thailand, on July 3-7.
Uichico, 49, will call the shots for the national squad in his first stint as head coach since piloting the Philippines to fourth place at the Asian Games in Busan in 2002. He has captured six titles for San Miguel Beer and two for Barangay Ginebra in the PBA so winning isn’t new to the former La Salle cager, now Meralco assistant coach.
But the problem he faces is getting the team together for practice with the departure looming on July 1. Center Marcus Douthit is still in the US and won’t be back until early next week. There are players in the 24-man lineup submitted to the SEABA for notification not sure of their availability.
Under SEABA rules, each participating country must initially turn in a 24-man lineup which is then trimmed to 12. The final roster will be confirmed at the team managers’ meeting on July 2 and may not necessarily be the reduced 12-man cast. The only requirement is the players in the final roster must be picked from the original 24-man pool.
The 24-man pool includes players from the PBA. However, if the teams of the listed PBA players remain in contention in the Governors Cup, they will be excluded from the final 12. The Governors Cup elimination schedule ends July 1. Only players from eliminated PBA teams will be considered for the final roster.
Smart Gilas head coach Chot Reyes said the PBA’s participation in the SEABA tournament will be clarified in a Board of Governors meeting on June 28. He declined to name the PBA players in the 24-man pool pending notification of the Board and team owners.
Uichico said the reduced 12-man lineup submitted to the SEABA included NLex mainstays Borgie Hermida, Dave Marcelo, Garvo Lanete, Eman Monfort and Woody Co, Cebuana Lhuillier center Vic Manuel, Philippine Patriots forward and Smart Gilas veteran Aldrech Ramos, Smart Gilas captain Chris Tiu and Douthit. Included in the 24-man pool were two other NLex stalwarts Cliff Hodge and Chris Ellis.
“We got together just last Monday and we weren’t even complete,” said Uichico. “We’re hoping to get in some practice time Friday (today) and Saturday. Then, we’ll try to arrange practice games. We’re playing La Salle on Thursday at PhilSports Arena and we’re also playing Ateneo. This is a brand-new team we’re forming. It’s not Gilas, it’s not Sinag. The talent level isn’t as high as either Gilas or Sinag but I think if we get the chemistry we want, we’ll be okay. This tournament is like a bridge to get us to the Stankovic Cup in Tokyo where the best Asian national teams will be playing. Only the SEABA champion will go to Tokyo. We’ll be playing only four games in Chiang Mai so it’s a short tournament.”
The Philippines has won five of the last six SEABA championships since 2001 and the only miss was in 2005 when Malaysia won with the Philippines disqualified from participation because of its FIBA suspension. Aside from the Philippines and Malaysia, the other SEABA contenders are Thailand, Indonesia and Singapore.
Uichico said Smart Gilas will represent the country in the Jones Cup in August and the Stankovic Cup on Sept. 14-22. Since the PBA will not be in season by then, it is expected for the Smart Gilas team to be composed of pro players.
Uichico said he told his mentor Ron Jacobs about his new assignment on speaker phone the other day. Jacobs has been in a state of paralysis from the neck down because of a stroke since December 2001. “I spoke with coach Ron,” said Uichico. “Just small talk. I wanted to tell him about SEABA. Of course, he’s not able to talk back but he can hear. I was on speaker phone. I stay in touch with coach Ron by phone and just talk basketball.”
Uichico said he’s not sure of his final assignment in the SEABA tournament. “At the moment, I’m the head coach but it could change,” he said. “I don’t even know who will be in my coaching staff. And I also don’t know who the final 12 in our lineup will be. It’s a difficult situation but this is for our country. We’ll be out there to win.”
Chemistry an issue in SEABA tilt
By Joaquin Henson The Philippine Star Updated June 22, 2012 12:00 AM
MANILA, Philippines - Joseph Uichico said yesterday chemistry is an issue the Philippine team must address quickly in preparing for the Southeast Asian Basketball Association (SEABA) championships set in Chiang Mai, Thailand, on July 3-7.
Uichico, 49, will call the shots for the national squad in his first stint as head coach since piloting the Philippines to fourth place at the Asian Games in Busan in 2002. He has captured six titles for San Miguel Beer and two for Barangay Ginebra in the PBA so winning isn’t new to the former La Salle cager, now Meralco assistant coach.
But the problem he faces is getting the team together for practice with the departure looming on July 1. Center Marcus Douthit is still in the US and won’t be back until early next week. There are players in the 24-man lineup submitted to the SEABA for notification not sure of their availability.
Under SEABA rules, each participating country must initially turn in a 24-man lineup which is then trimmed to 12. The final roster will be confirmed at the team managers’ meeting on July 2 and may not necessarily be the reduced 12-man cast. The only requirement is the players in the final roster must be picked from the original 24-man pool.
The 24-man pool includes players from the PBA. However, if the teams of the listed PBA players remain in contention in the Governors Cup, they will be excluded from the final 12. The Governors Cup elimination schedule ends July 1. Only players from eliminated PBA teams will be considered for the final roster.
Smart Gilas head coach Chot Reyes said the PBA’s participation in the SEABA tournament will be clarified in a Board of Governors meeting on June 28. He declined to name the PBA players in the 24-man pool pending notification of the Board and team owners.
Uichico said the reduced 12-man lineup submitted to the SEABA included NLex mainstays Borgie Hermida, Dave Marcelo, Garvo Lanete, Eman Monfort and Woody Co, Cebuana Lhuillier center Vic Manuel, Philippine Patriots forward and Smart Gilas veteran Aldrech Ramos, Smart Gilas captain Chris Tiu and Douthit. Included in the 24-man pool were two other NLex stalwarts Cliff Hodge and Chris Ellis.
“We got together just last Monday and we weren’t even complete,” said Uichico. “We’re hoping to get in some practice time Friday (today) and Saturday. Then, we’ll try to arrange practice games. We’re playing La Salle on Thursday at PhilSports Arena and we’re also playing Ateneo. This is a brand-new team we’re forming. It’s not Gilas, it’s not Sinag. The talent level isn’t as high as either Gilas or Sinag but I think if we get the chemistry we want, we’ll be okay. This tournament is like a bridge to get us to the Stankovic Cup in Tokyo where the best Asian national teams will be playing. Only the SEABA champion will go to Tokyo. We’ll be playing only four games in Chiang Mai so it’s a short tournament.”
The Philippines has won five of the last six SEABA championships since 2001 and the only miss was in 2005 when Malaysia won with the Philippines disqualified from participation because of its FIBA suspension. Aside from the Philippines and Malaysia, the other SEABA contenders are Thailand, Indonesia and Singapore.
Uichico said Smart Gilas will represent the country in the Jones Cup in August and the Stankovic Cup on Sept. 14-22. Since the PBA will not be in season by then, it is expected for the Smart Gilas team to be composed of pro players.
Uichico said he told his mentor Ron Jacobs about his new assignment on speaker phone the other day. Jacobs has been in a state of paralysis from the neck down because of a stroke since December 2001. “I spoke with coach Ron,” said Uichico. “Just small talk. I wanted to tell him about SEABA. Of course, he’s not able to talk back but he can hear. I was on speaker phone. I stay in touch with coach Ron by phone and just talk basketball.”
Uichico said he’s not sure of his final assignment in the SEABA tournament. “At the moment, I’m the head coach but it could change,” he said. “I don’t even know who will be in my coaching staff. And I also don’t know who the final 12 in our lineup will be. It’s a difficult situation but this is for our country. We’ll be out there to win.”
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ariel_muhlach2
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not yet contented .... lust for more ..... greed at its best.
www.malaya.com.ph/index.php/business/business-news/6855-first-pacific-keeps-focus-on-phbbb
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