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Next Episode: PBA or Smart Gilas? Who should represent our National Team

Next Episode: PBA or Smart Gilas? Who should represent our National Team


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keep on trying,believing and suporting our RP team

keep on trying,believing and suporting our RP team

consolidate PBA and SBP resources first! then we can have a better program

Imagine these guys training in Serbia and other parts of Europe..practicing and training their skills together 3 times a week for 3 years and playing in SEABA, the SEA games,the Asian games and hopefully the Stankovic Cup with some European teams present.I think we will end up better than 9th or 8th,if we fail then we'll try again. We have a youthful team (Barroca,Slaughter,Al-Husseini,Fajardo,Aguilar etc.) and I'm pretty sure there are more young talents there waiting to emerge.
 
I am sorry but I have a different view about how a National Team outing is a success. For me it is not only by getting the Championship. For me as long as the team tried it's very best effort and can show it could be competitive despite all the odds against the team, that is fine with me. I lived my life learning that you cannot get everything you wanted. Being able to accept defeat to a better opponent is a good step in order for you to aim to do better the next time around.

But as a representative of your people you have the duty to do your best at the best of your ability everytime. As I said you do not play for yourself anymore, as you play for your family, you play for provincemates, you play for your countrymen, you play for your flag and country itself. It is to be remembered whatever actions you do while you are representing the country is reflective on what Filipinos image are to the eyes of others.
 
I am sorry but I have a different view about how a National Team outing is a success. For me it is not only by getting the Championship. For me as long as the team tried it's very best effort and can show it could be competitive despite all the odds against the team, that is fine with me. I lived my life learning that you cannot get everything you wanted. Being able to accept defeat to a better opponent is a good step in order for you to aim to do better the next time around.

But as a representative of your people you have the duty to do your best at the best of your ability everytime. As I said you do not play for yourself anymore, as you play for your family, you play for provincemates, you play for your countrymen, you play for your flag and country itself. It is to be remembered whatever actions you do while you are representing the country is reflective on what Filipinos image are to the eyes of others.

Tama po but really cannot blame rp why is there a consolation game I pity Korea and Rp(now lebanon (maybe inexcusable because they still have what they are fighting for)) But I still believe that young guys should represent the rp team in 2011 because its recurring again if we send the ones we send all over again(already past prime, nothing more to learn players) be realistic I think 2013 championship is achievable and a top 3 finish in 2011 is victory for us one step at a time do not ask for the moon and stars:D:D:D
 
young guys at least 3to 4 from the pba who the 2 will still be available in 2013 and the rest be available by 2013 and 2015 common iran never become first in an instant jordan did not finish third in an instant
 
Smart gilas has been training and facing real competition months before Powerade Team Pilipinas got exposed in the real level of competition.

Upside- Fiba Asia is 2 years from now (more time than a 2 week real preparation)
Upside- Rajko Toroman is the coach (better than the bald man)
Upside- The pba might have to save its face from the shame it brought the country and reinforce the smart gilas
Upside- CJ Giles, 6'11 naturalized Center Former LA Faker.
 
Centers:
Giles 6'11"
Slaughter 6'11"

Power Forwards:
Fajardo 6'9"
Al-Hussani 6'7'
Aguilar 6'9'

Small Forwards:
Williams 6'6"
Norwood 6'5"
Washington 6'7"

Shooting Guards:
Lutz 6'4"
Yap 6'2"

Point Guards:
R.Reyes 6'2"
Barroca 5'11"

Reserves:
Ramos 6'7"
Baracael 6'5"
J.Reyes 6'7"
Casio 5'10"
 
I am sorry but I have a different view about how a National Team outing is a success. For me it is not only by getting the Championship. For me as long as the team tried it's very best effort and can show it could be competitive despite all the odds against the team, that is fine with me. I lived my life learning that you cannot get everything you wanted. Being able to accept defeat to a better opponent is a good step in order for you to aim to do better the next time around.

But as a representative of your people you have the duty to do your best at the best of your ability everytime. As I said you do not play for yourself anymore, as you play for your family, you play for provincemates, you play for your countrymen, you play for your flag and country itself. It is to be remembered whatever actions you do while you are representing the country is reflective on what Filipinos image are to the eyes of others.

sir nardZ,can you name please sir the player that is beside chris lutz with mr. eala in your sig?
 
We Filipinos start the harboring of half-bred players or Fil-foreigners in our basketball without maybe knowing that other countries will follow and now their half-bred players are much better and taller than ours, now their half-bred players are creating havoc in Asian basketball but our Fil-foreigners are also also making waves but only in PBA, but in Asian Basketball or international basketball, they are sissies. They are just playing for the show but not for the fight. What we need now is a fighter and younger players, and for searching a good Fil-foreign player, lets follow what Lebanon and Jordan is doing, if their is good and tall basketball player whose name sounds like Filipino, lets recruit him and christened him as a Fil-foreign player!::D:D
 
1st Five

CJ Giles- Center
Sonny Thoss- PF
Kelly- SF
Chris Luts- SG
Gabe- PG

Bench/Reserve

Jwash 6'7
Jr Reyes 6'7
Dillinger 6'5
Joe devance 6'7
Japeth 6'9
Barroca 5'10
Mercado 6'0
Ryan reyes 6'2
Mark Caguioa 6'0
Rabeh 6'7
Fajardo 6'9
 
let's just train our 6'6 young guys to play effective SG's and our 6'8's to SFs...

maybe by being superior in the 2 and 3 positions we might not even need a naturalized center.
 
let's just train our 6'6 young guys to play effective SG's and our 6'8's to SFs...

maybe by being superior in the 2 and 3 positions we might not even need a naturalized center.

And also train them to play team basketball. individual skills are nothing if we don't know how to play as a team. Pinoys must always think of "walis tingting".
 
1st Five

CJ Giles- Center
Sonny Thoss- PF
Kelly- SF
Chris Luts- SG
Gabe- PG

Bench/Reserve

Jwash 6'7
Jr Reyes 6'7
Dillinger 6'5
Joe devance 6'7
Japeth 6'9
Barroca 5'10
Mercado 6'0
Ryan reyes 6'2
Mark Caguioa 6'0
Rabeh 6'7
Fajardo 6'9

I think a two that is 6 feet below can't do it. PG maybe but not two guard.
 
PBA’S COMMITMENT TO NAT’L TEAM MAY CONTINUE


TIANJIN – Powerade-Team Pilipinas coach Yeng Guiao’s call for the PBA to stay involved in forming the national team, endorsed earlier by Sta. Lucia Realty governor Buddy Encarnado, is about to reach a bigger audience.

PBA commissioner Renauld ‘Sonny’ Barrios said Sunday, on the eve of the national team’s closing game against South Korea in the 25th FIBA Asia Men’s Championship, that he will seek the opinion of the board of governors on what direction to take.

“Coach Yeng’s heart must have been touched by this experience and he has asked me in the nicest of terms to keep an open mind,” Barrios said.

Guiao has called on the PBA to stay active in forming the RP team, arguing that the best basketball talents in the country remain in the pro backyard.

“The PBA could not turn away from its responsibility,” said Guiao, stressing that only matured players – “aged 26 to 28” – can compete and have a chance against other Asian teams.

Guiao’s sentiments has received favorable response from Encarnado, who was responsible for the RP team’s seventh place finish in the 1991 Asian Basketball Confederation Men’s Championship in Kobe, Japan.

The Realtors governor told Guiao to submit a written program and pledged to have it calendared for discussion when the PBA board meets next month.

“Now is the time to strike while the iron is hot,” Encarnado said following the RP team's victory over Chinese-Taipei in the preliminary round.

National fervor, Barrios said, must have struck Guiao, “much the same way it has affected me.”

A self-proclaimed traditionalist and believer of the maxim laid down by the “league’s forefathers” that the PBA is “Filipino basketball by Filipino players for the Filipino people,” Barrios said an “exit plan” crafted for application after Tianjin continues to be in place.

But after seeing the teams from China, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon and South Korea, Barrios, who hollered himself hoarse rooting for the Nationals, said it has become clear where Guiao was coming from.

“Nanghihinayang siya kung hindi na natin ipapadala yung best players of the land,” Barrios said. “And I don’t think it was at all self-serving of him because he knows he’s not going to be coaching a national team anytime soon, if at all,”

In the event the PBA board – to which Talk ‘N Text’s Ricky Vargas, vice chairman of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, and JB Baylon, the Powerade-RP team manager belong – decides to put in abeyance the exit plan, then the matter will be brought up to the SBP, the national sports association for amateur basketball.

“For the longest of time, people have been saying that Philippine basketball has no long term program,” Barrios said. “But with the formation of the SBP and through the leadership and initiative of Mr. (Manny V.) Pangilinan, one is now in place and we have to thank him for that. So ayaw natin silang pangunahan.”

Though no international tournament is scheduled for the rest of the year, Barrios said he wants nonetheless to get a “reading from the board” on how to proceed.

“If they embrace that concept, then so be it,” he said. “Ipa-fine tune yung details in black and white, yung nitty-gritty, and then I will present it to the SBP.”

Barrios expressed confidence a common ground could be reached on the matter.

“With what SBP is doing and with the inputs of Coach Yeng, perhaps if we all talk together as Filipinos wanting to do good for the best of basketball, Filipino basketball, then we can most likely achieve something more than what we have achieved so far,” Barrios said.
 
PBA’S COMMITMENT TO NAT’L TEAM MAY CONTINUE


TIANJIN – Powerade-Team Pilipinas coach Yeng Guiao’s call for the PBA to stay involved in forming the national team, endorsed earlier by Sta. Lucia Realty governor Buddy Encarnado, is about to reach a bigger audience.

PBA commissioner Renauld ‘Sonny’ Barrios said Sunday, on the eve of the national team’s closing game against South Korea in the 25th FIBA Asia Men’s Championship, that he will seek the opinion of the board of governors on what direction to take.

“Coach Yeng’s heart must have been touched by this experience and he has asked me in the nicest of terms to keep an open mind,” Barrios said.

Guiao has called on the PBA to stay active in forming the RP team, arguing that the best basketball talents in the country remain in the pro backyard.

“The PBA could not turn away from its responsibility,” said Guiao, stressing that only matured players – “aged 26 to 28” – can compete and have a chance against other Asian teams.

Guiao’s sentiments has received favorable response from Encarnado, who was responsible for the RP team’s seventh place finish in the 1991 Asian Basketball Confederation Men’s Championship in Kobe, Japan.

The Realtors governor told Guiao to submit a written program and pledged to have it calendared for discussion when the PBA board meets next month.

“Now is the time to strike while the iron is hot,” Encarnado said following the RP team's victory over Chinese-Taipei in the preliminary round.

National fervor, Barrios said, must have struck Guiao, “much the same way it has affected me.”

A self-proclaimed traditionalist and believer of the maxim laid down by the “league’s forefathers” that the PBA is “Filipino basketball by Filipino players for the Filipino people,” Barrios said an “exit plan” crafted for application after Tianjin continues to be in place.

But after seeing the teams from China, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon and South Korea, Barrios, who hollered himself hoarse rooting for the Nationals, said it has become clear where Guiao was coming from.

“Nanghihinayang siya kung hindi na natin ipapadala yung best players of the land,” Barrios said. “And I don’t think it was at all self-serving of him because he knows he’s not going to be coaching a national team anytime soon, if at all,”

In the event the PBA board – to which Talk ‘N Text’s Ricky Vargas, vice chairman of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, and JB Baylon, the Powerade-RP team manager belong – decides to put in abeyance the exit plan, then the matter will be brought up to the SBP, the national sports association for amateur basketball.

“For the longest of time, people have been saying that Philippine basketball has no long term program,” Barrios said. “But with the formation of the SBP and through the leadership and initiative of Mr. (Manny V.) Pangilinan, one is now in place and we have to thank him for that. So ayaw natin silang pangunahan.”

Though no international tournament is scheduled for the rest of the year, Barrios said he wants nonetheless to get a “reading from the board” on how to proceed.

“If they embrace that concept, then so be it,” he said. “Ipa-fine tune yung details in black and white, yung nitty-gritty, and then I will present it to the SBP.”

Barrios expressed confidence a common ground could be reached on the matter.

“With what SBP is doing and with the inputs of Coach Yeng, perhaps if we all talk together as Filipinos wanting to do good for the best of basketball, Filipino basketball, then we can most likely achieve something more than what we have achieved so far,” Barrios said.

common, wth is this? pass the torch to the gilas youngsters:rolleyes: just lend some pba players if needed that is the way to glory:) yeng wag ka na maepal ok?>calling sir nards, whats the sbp"s stand on this?
 
PBA’S COMMITMENT TO NAT’L TEAM MAY CONTINUE


TIANJIN – Powerade-Team Pilipinas coach Yeng Guiao’s call for the PBA to stay involved in forming the national team, endorsed earlier by Sta. Lucia Realty governor Buddy Encarnado, is about to reach a bigger audience.

PBA commissioner Renauld ‘Sonny’ Barrios said Sunday, on the eve of the national team’s closing game against South Korea in the 25th FIBA Asia Men’s Championship, that he will seek the opinion of the board of governors on what direction to take.

“Coach Yeng’s heart must have been touched by this experience and he has asked me in the nicest of terms to keep an open mind,” Barrios said.

Guiao has called on the PBA to stay active in forming the RP team, arguing that the best basketball talents in the country remain in the pro backyard.

“The PBA could not turn away from its responsibility,” said Guiao, stressing that only matured players – “aged 26 to 28” – can compete and have a chance against other Asian teams.

Guiao’s sentiments has received favorable response from Encarnado, who was responsible for the RP team’s seventh place finish in the 1991 Asian Basketball Confederation Men’s Championship in Kobe, Japan.

The Realtors governor told Guiao to submit a written program and pledged to have it calendared for discussion when the PBA board meets next month.

“Now is the time to strike while the iron is hot,” Encarnado said following the RP team's victory over Chinese-Taipei in the preliminary round.

National fervor, Barrios said, must have struck Guiao, “much the same way it has affected me.”

A self-proclaimed traditionalist and believer of the maxim laid down by the “league’s forefathers” that the PBA is “Filipino basketball by Filipino players for the Filipino people,” Barrios said an “exit plan” crafted for application after Tianjin continues to be in place.

But after seeing the teams from China, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon and South Korea, Barrios, who hollered himself hoarse rooting for the Nationals, said it has become clear where Guiao was coming from.

“Nanghihinayang siya kung hindi na natin ipapadala yung best players of the land,” Barrios said. “And I don’t think it was at all self-serving of him because he knows he’s not going to be coaching a national team anytime soon, if at all,”

In the event the PBA board – to which Talk ‘N Text’s Ricky Vargas, vice chairman of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, and JB Baylon, the Powerade-RP team manager belong – decides to put in abeyance the exit plan, then the matter will be brought up to the SBP, the national sports association for amateur basketball.

“For the longest of time, people have been saying that Philippine basketball has no long term program,” Barrios said. “But with the formation of the SBP and through the leadership and initiative of Mr. (Manny V.) Pangilinan, one is now in place and we have to thank him for that. So ayaw natin silang pangunahan.”

Though no international tournament is scheduled for the rest of the year, Barrios said he wants nonetheless to get a “reading from the board” on how to proceed.

“If they embrace that concept, then so be it,” he said. “Ipa-fine tune yung details in black and white, yung nitty-gritty, and then I will present it to the SBP.”

Barrios expressed confidence a common ground could be reached on the matter.

“With what SBP is doing and with the inputs of Coach Yeng, perhaps if we all talk together as Filipinos wanting to do good for the best of basketball, Filipino basketball, then we can most likely achieve something more than what we have achieved so far,” Barrios said.


You got to be kidding me. This is a double edged sword aimed at the very heart of the national cause. on the one hand, it is damage control to pacify the angry fans of philippine basketball. on the other hand, it is saying to the amateur players that there's no hope in smart gilas and they should join PBA instead. PBA has done its part. It's time to give smart gilas a chance.
 
someone posted this at pinoyexchange:

in our interview today with rajko toroman sa program, he said that 'the rp team took a lot of attempts in the 3point line. wala daw discipline regarding shot selection ang team. hindi daw kadali na maresolba ang problema sa shooting in a short span of time. saka dapat inside-outside ang binibigyang focus. discipline sa shot hindi porket libre ititira mo na . another thing is matapang na sinabi ni coach toroman na pba is no good for international competition kasi it relies on one on one too much hindi team concept or walang team system. if ever he gets a chance to get pba players for smart gilas he would pick , norwood, aguilar, dilinger basta yung bata at may potential daw


seems very true.. PBA style is really a no for international competition.. it has failed since 1990.

It is important that if they'll get some players from the PBA to reinforce the Smart Gilas, it should be the young ones.. fresh ones..
 
we must be open minded.
yeng's call for the pba to continue lending players and helping in the formation of a national team is sincere.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
we must maximize our very limited resources in creating or building a competitive team. ayaw ko na maging talunan....;)
 
sir nardZ,can you name please sir the player that is beside chris lutz with mr. eala in your sig?

O ..... the player between Chris and Gian Chiu and right in front of Sean Anthony is a young player who just walked-in in the tryout camp in Las Vegas but sorry for some reason no one seem to recall the boy's name.
 
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