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I got this from user:1983 of ArcherPride.com

AFAIK, SBP has contacted us and that we will be sending an 18 man contingent of 15 players and 3 coaches. The late entry fee to the Universiade has reportedly been made. The problem will really be the UAAP schedule!


then again from user: pegol

Let's not believe anything coming from the organizers until we know for sure that DLSU is really going. Why? because we already missed the deadline for paying the entry fee. And there are many steps required before one is eligible to participate. No one has contacted DLSU yet to form its lineup, submit documents,apply for visas, etc and that takes quite a while. We have only 4 months left to prepare and besides we don't know what SBP will pay for yet--hotel, food, allowances, etc. You would imagine that by now, they should already be coordinating with us on these matters. And if they don't get the approval of the UAAP soon, they might have a very convenient excuse that the UAAP would not budge, so "its not their fault". We should never buy that line since 4 UAAP teams participated, and the UAAP is part of SBP.
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Well if its for the flag well let it be, La Salle can still sweep the the second round and march forward to the finals like they do almost every season.
 
All's well that ends well...

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=447213&publicationSubCategoryId=69

No broken promise
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin M. Henson Updated March 10, 2009 12:00 AM

A $5,000 participation fee was recently advanced by Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) chairman Rey Gamboa for the La Salle senior varsity basketball team to represent the country at the World University Games in Belgrade, Serbia, on July 1-12.

With PLDT-Smart confirming it will foot the bill for the Green Archers’ trip and incoming UAAP president Anton Montinola of FEU proposing to move La Salle’s season-opening game to July 16, the way is now clear to Belgrade.

The trip was promised to the winner of the PCCL title last year. The Archers won the crown and were excited to play in the Universiade particularly as “import” Marko Batricevic is from Serbia. But when the deadline to submit the final engagement forms lapsed last Feb. 1 and nobody had contacted La Salle to coordinate the trip, the Archers wondered if they were taken for a ride.

But Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, who is the Philippine representative in the Universiade governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), yesterday assured arrangements for the trip are in progress. From all indications, the trip is a go. The only hitch is if FISU thumbs down La Salle’s participation which, said Capistrano, is unlikely.

Capistrano said 24 slots are available in basketball and if there are over 24 applicants, FISU will choose the entries. Paying the $5,000 participation fee, however, should guarantee the Archers a slot.

Capistrano, a member of the SBP Board, was nominated by the POC to represent the country in FISU two years ago. He is also the Philippine representative in the Asean University Sports Council and the Asian University Sports Federation. In July 2007, Capistrano attended the FISU meeting in Bangkok where the last Universiade was held.

“The Philippines was invited to send a basketball team to Serbia because the FISU secretary-general at that time knew of our love for the game,” said Capistrano. “With that in mind, I mentioned it to the SBP Board and since Rey (Gamboa) is also in the Board, we thought of offering the opportunity to the PCCL champion.”

* * *

Capistrano said the Serbia format will require all teams to play until the last day of the event.

La Salle was initially slated to play UE in the main game of the UAAP season-opener on July 11. When Gamboa wrote the UAAP Board about the possibility of La Salle playing in Serbia, Montinola said he would propose an adjustment in the schedule.

“(FEU athletic director) Mark (Molina) and I reworked the UAAP schedule which is still subject to Board approval,” said Montinola who takes over the UAAP presidency with FEU as host during the Awards Night and turnover rites on Thursday. “We’re proposing for La Salle to play UE on July 16 to give them a chance to return from Serbia and take a few days rest. It will mean adjusting our calendar and playing three games instead of two in some days to make up.”

Montinola said FEU supports the PCCL and in a personal capacity, saw no problem in accommodating the request to adjust La Salle’s schedule.

Incidentally, Montinola clarified that the UAAP Board has not yet appointed a commissioner, contrary to what some sources claim. He also mentioned the La Salle-Ateneo game is set on the last day of the first round.

* * *

Gamboa wrote a formal letter to outgoing UAAP president Dr. Sergio Cao of UP informing the UAAP Board of La Salle’s participation in Serbia. While no formal reply has been made, Gamboa said Montinola’s expression of support was reassuring.

“The $5,000 application deposit has been paid to the organizers and we are awaiting their confirmation of the Philippines’ participation,” said Gamboa.

Aside from basketball, the Philippines will send a delegation of 24 taekwondo jins to Serbia. The delegation is made up of 12 male and 12 female athletes, three coaches and a team official. The Philippine Taekwondo Association is taking care of the delegations’ expenses. In the last Universiade, the Philippines took a bronze medal in taekwondo.

Gamboa said the basketball event in Serbia is limited to teams with priority given to those with a previous record of participation.

Capistrano said in 1967, the Philippines sent a basketball team to the World University Games in Tokyo. “The UAAP used to represent the country in the Universiade,” he went on. “We sent athletes only to the Universiades which were held nearby so it didn’t cost too much. Eventually, the letters of invitation were sent to the POC.”

Capistrano said a FISU meeting is slated on March 19-21 in Belgrade among the heads of delegations to decide the draws for the different events. The round-trip air fare of $15,000 is prohibitive so it’s unlikely he’ll go. He said he will inquire if the national development training team is leaving to train in Serbia soon and if the schedules coincide, perhaps an SBP official could attend the meeting.

The expenses to send La Salle to Serbia will run up to over $300,000. SBP executive director Noli Eala has confirmed that PLDT-Smart will cover the costs of the Archers’ trip to Belgrade.

More on the PCCL in tomorrow’s column.
 
just wanna ask how the NCAA D-I teams in the US are ranked? are they ranked per conference (Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, etc...) so there are many No. 1s? are they ranked according to their roster strengths on paper?:confused:
 
just wanna ask how the NCAA D-I teams in the US are ranked? are they ranked per conference (Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, etc...) so there are many No. 1s? are they ranked according to their roster strengths on paper?:confused:

There's this thing called "RPI", which measures the team's performances compared to the teams they've played. It plays a big part in determining which seed you get in the NCAA tournament. Also, in-conference records are important; you have to win the conference tournament to get your conference's outright bid in the Big Dance. However, if you were not able to win your conference tournament but your RPI is high enough (e.g., wins against schools outside your conference with outstanding records), you can make it to the NCAA Tournament as an at-large.
 
False alarm

False alarm

False alarm
Sporting By Chance by Quinito Henson Updated March 11, 2009 12:00 AM

The cost for a round-trip ticket to Belgrade is $1,500 and not $15,000 as reported in this column yesterday.

Jose (Junjun) Capistrano, the Philippine representative to the World University Games’ governing body Federation Internationale du Sport Universitaire (FISU), inadvertently added another zero to the sum in calculating a budget to attend the head of delegations meeting in Belgrade on March 19-21.

Without noticing the mistake, Capistrano said he couldn’t afford to make the trip.

But SBP executive director Noli Eala yesterday pointed out the error as he, too, is fixing to travel to Serbia with coach Rajko Toroman’s national developmental basketball team.

In fact, Capistrano asked Eala if he could attend the Universiade meeting instead since he would be in Belgrade anyway with Toroman’s squad. Eala, however, said the team will be in Serbia from March 27 to April 7 to play a series of games against four Division A and three Division B clubs.

Eala said the budget to bring over the developmental team to Serbia is about $80,000 for a 10-day visit. He estimated the budget for La Salle to play in the Universiade to be about $20,000 for 15 persons from July 1 to 12.

Late yesterday, Capistrano was trying to reach Jack Rodriguez, the country’s consul to Serbia. Since the $1,500 airfare is affordable, Capistrano will try to find out if it’s not too late to fly to Belgrade. How quickly a visa may be issued is a factor.

The Serbia trip is just one of the prizes that La Salle won by capturing the Philippine Collegiate Champions League (PCCL) crown last December.

* * *

PCCL chairman Rey Gamboa said last season, the total amount of prizes solicited by the league was P1.907 million. The prizes were in form of scholarship grants, athletic items, team and individual trophies and medals, gift items and certificates and cash. The major prize donors were FilOil Flying V, SBP chairman Manny V. Pangilinan, Kentucky Fried Chicken and Molten basketballs.

Gamboa said the prizes were distributed to the nine regional champions and the Final Four teams in the Sweet 16 Finals. No other collegiate tournament gives as many prizes and in those hefty amounts.

The winners of the FilOil Flying V scholarship grants were La Salle (P500,000), Ateneo (P200,000), Letran (P100,000) and San Beda College (P50,000). The grants are paid directly by FilOil Flying V to the schools upon submission of the list of beneficiaries. La Salle has submitted its list and the check will be presented by FilOil Flying V to the school’s representative during the pre-season tournament opening games on April 19.

During the launch of last year’s tournament, the only prizes that were initially mentioned were the scholarship grants. The other prizes were later announced and awarded right after the regional championships (nine regional winners were given P20,000 each in athletic items and trophy) and the Sweet 16 Finals.

Aside from the scholarship grants, the players of the Final Four teams received bonus cash and gift certificates amounting to P400,000 for La Salle, P200,000 for Ateneo, P100,000 for Letran and P50,000 for San Beda. MVP J. V. Casio was given P25,000, a KFC special prize and trophy, best coach Franz Pumaren P15,000 and trophy, best referee Barbacena P15,000 and trophy and the mythical first teamers Casio, Rico Maierhofer, Rabeh Al-Husseini, R. J. Jazul and Nonoy Baclao P5,000, a KFC special prize and individual medals each.

* * *

Gamboa said corporate sponsors PLDT and Smart provided the funds for the airfare, transportation and accommodation expenses of all teams that advanced to the regional and zonal championships and the Sweet 16 Finals in Manila.

For the record, the PCCL is a non-profit entity with the objective of bringing together all the country’s 27 senior varsity league titleholders and for these teams to compete in a nationwide multi-level tournament culminating in the Sweet 16 Finals to crown the national champion for the season.

Funds for the PCCL are sourced solely from corporate sponsors and donors. The PCCL does not charge admission fees during games. The nominal fees assessed during the Finals last December were for the account of FilOil Flying V, sponsor of the championship phase, to partially cover their costs.

In sum, all the promises made by the PCCL to the tournament participants were kept. And in fact, a lot more than the promises were given. No wonder everyone’s looking forward to this season’s edition. The players, coaches and fans know when they’ve got a good thing going.

taken from Philstar.com
 
Still one question remains though: Would they move the opening of UAAP Season 72 or not? And AFAIK, DLSU won't face AdMU immediately. DLSU would face FEU and AdMU would then face UE. This has been the UAAP's common scheduling (Season 71's Final Four teams would face each other in two separate main events [Saturday and Sunday]. First games would include #5 vs #8 and #6 vs #7).
 
Still one question remains though: Would they move the opening of UAAP Season 72 or not? And AFAIK, DLSU won't face AdMU immediately. DLSU would face FEU and AdMU would then face UE. This has been the UAAP's common scheduling (Season 71's Final Four teams would face each other in two separate main events [Saturday and Sunday]. First games would include #5 vs #8 and #6 vs #7).

If ever the UAAP Opening would go on schedule, if you read the "No broken promise" article by Quinito Henson, it stated the following:

Capistrano said the Serbia format will require all teams to play until the last day of the event.

La Salle was initially slated to play UE in the main game of the UAAP season-opener on July 11. When Gamboa wrote the UAAP Board about the possibility of La Salle playing in Serbia, Montinola said he would propose an adjustment in the schedule.

“(FEU athletic director) Mark (Molina) and I reworked the UAAP schedule which is still subject to Board approval,” said Montinola who takes over the UAAP presidency with FEU as host during the Awards Night and turnover rites on Thursday. “We’re proposing for La Salle to play UE on July 16 to give them a chance to return from Serbia and take a few days rest. It will mean adjusting our calendar and playing three games instead of two in some days to make up.”

Montinola said FEU supports the PCCL and in a personal capacity, saw no problem in accommodating the request to adjust La Salle’s schedule.

Incidentally, Montinola clarified that the UAAP Board has not yet appointed a commissioner, contrary to what some sources claim. He also mentioned the La Salle-Ateneo game is set on the last day of the first round.

* * *​

Gamboa wrote a formal letter to outgoing UAAP president Dr. Sergio Cao of UP informing the UAAP Board of La Salle’s participation in Serbia. While no formal reply has been made, Gamboa said Montinola’s expression of support was reassuring.

Moving the UAAP Opening is not being discussed, it is the re-scheduling which would be worked-out but that would still be subject to UAAP Board Approval.
 
The UAAP schedule should not be a problem for DLSU since they consider the PCC as more prestigious. The Green Archers should proudly represent the country in Serbia and not worry about the UAAP which is just some sort of a tournament for Metro Manila universities.
 
The UAAP schedule should not be a problem for DLSU since they consider the PCC as more prestigious. The Green Archers should proudly represent the country in Serbia and not worry about the UAAP which is just some sort of a tournament for Metro Manila universities.

It is not that simple just because the PCC is more prestigious or whatever, La Salle being a member of the UAAP has to abide to the existing Rules and Regulations. So an approval of the UAAP Board is definitely needed.

I have to note that even though it was not announced in media, Talk N Text was sanctioned/penalized by the PBA for playing in Singapore against the Slingers without prior approval of the PBA. In any organization or association, you need to abide to its existing rules and regulations, so if approval is needed before you can play outside of the league then approval must be first seeked and then awaited. You cannot just do something just because you want to or since you are doing it for a more prestigious event or organization.

UAAP Rules and Regulations

PERMISSION TO PLAY OUTSIDE THE UAAP

No athlete and/or team of any UAAP Member University may play for any other entity for the duration of the UAAP tournament in which such athlete/team is/are participating except;

1. Exhibition Games
2. Barangay Level Tournament
3. DECS - CHED Organized competitions
4. National Team Selections
5. Tournament for ranking purposes provided he/she represents his/her UAAP Member University or him/herself
6. AFP
7. NSA organized tournament
8. Alumni organized tournaments.
9. Commercial Leagues except PBL

Provided, however, that such tournament is not in conflict with the UAAP schedules. In such case, priority shall always be given to the UAAP. A prior written request for participation in such tournament must be submitted to the Board for its approval.
 
Maybe this time, Pumaren will have no reason to suddenly abandon his team in the thick of the tournament. :D:D

oh.. you think this is funny. maybe you can try telling this to Coach Jack Santiago's family. let's see how funny it will be
 
It is not that simple just because the PCC is more prestigious or whatever, La Salle being a member of the UAAP has to abide to the existing Rules and Regulations. So an approval of the UAAP Board is definitely needed.

My post was not meant to be taken at face value. :)

If the UAAP Board will not give its approval, then DLSU should just disengage from the UAAP. The PCC is more important.

And I'm off topic already.
 
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All's well that ends well. :)

The next PCC is 8 months away.

Its far from over.... until La Salle actually plays in Belgrade, this issue will still not be resolved. I don't know why, but all these press releases by the PCC Organizers seems to be shallow. It seems more like a preparation for a major spin when they will announce later that La Salle will not play in the Universiade. For there sake, I hope La Salle does play in Belgrade. But the more i read these articles, the more I'm convinced they won't.
 
The UAAP schedule should not be a problem for DLSU since they consider the PCC as more prestigious. The Green Archers should proudly represent the country in Serbia and not worry about the UAAP which is just some sort of a tournament for Metro Manila universities.

well, IMHO, the UAAP doesnt think PCC is more prestigious than them. DLSU, w/c is a member of the UAAP must abide on what their mother league dictates.
if the UAAP says delay the opening to accomodate DLSU's Univeriade commitment, DLSU would probably go to Serbia, if it says NO GO, DLSU in all probability would not even think of going there.
 
Its far from over.... until La Salle actually plays in Belgrade, this issue will still not be resolved. I don't know why, but all these press releases by the PCC Organizers seems to be shallow. It seems more like a preparation for a major spin when they will announce later that La Salle will not play in the Universiade. For there sake, I hope La Salle does play in Belgrade. But the more i read these articles, the more I'm convinced they won't.

Then, don't read those articles. It will only make you crazy.
 
Great advice. I should do that. Thanks.

I am optimistic that La Salle will represent the country in the upcoming Universiade.

Which team will La Salle send? The 2008 team or the 2009 team?
Either way it will be advatageous for them as it will serve as a preparation for their 2009 UAAP campaign.
 
I am optimistic that La Salle will represent the country in the upcoming Universiade.

Which team will La Salle send? The 2008 team or the 2009 team?
Either way it will be advatageous for them as it will serve as a preparation for their 2009 UAAP campaign.

I bet its the 2009 team with Norberto Torres playing center instead of the former NU bullpup Mendoza
 
I am optimistic that La Salle will represent the country in the upcoming Universiade.

Which team will La Salle send? The 2008 team or the 2009 team?
Either way it will be advatageous for them as it will serve as a preparation for their 2009 UAAP campaign.

If La Salle does play in Belgrade, i would assume they will play there 2009 team. Noli Eala already gave assurances in an article written by Josef Ramos in inboundpass.com that La Salle will indeed play in the Universiade in June. I hope I'm wrong... but i still have doubts. TellTell said it best when he said -'for his (Eala's) sake, i hope he is right. If not, then there goes his credibility… whatever bit is left of it…"
 
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