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Can PBA players make it to be NBA stars?

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nope, its marketing and political

do you have substantial proof that he's just a marketing ploy joel23? Don't make it an excuse that we Filipinos just lack height, we can't even score a quarterfinals berth in in FIBA Asia while China has been stomping other non Asian teams in the Olympics and in the Worlds.
 
do you have substantial proof that he's just a marketing ploy joel23? Don't make it an excuse that we Filipinos just lack height, we can't even score a quarterfinals berth in in FIBA Asia while China has been stomping other non Asian teams in the Olympics and in the Worlds.

Don't even bother arguing with him. :D
 
nope, its marketing and political

Nope. Yi Lian Jan is a very good player, who proved himself in FIBA tournaments, and who deserves to be in the NBA.

I hope we are not insisting Yi is just a marketing ploy, in the hopes that the NBA would also allow a Filipino to play there based on factors other than talent.
 
nope, its marketing and political

yi is good enough to play in the nba. however, he's just an average player there.

yao ming is just a freak of nature. china, even with their population, will be hard pressed to find the next yao ming.
 
Before we set our sights on the NBA, I humbly believe that it would be better for us to just focus first on producing more homegrown players like Japeth to make it to good Div1 programs. After that, we can target the Euroleague and then the NBA.
 
do you have substantial proof that he's just a marketing ploy joel23? Don't make it an excuse that we Filipinos just lack height, we can't even score a quarterfinals berth in in FIBA Asia while China has been stomping other non Asian teams in the Olympics and in the Worlds.
he is now playing for new jersey nets, located in the tri-state area where a lot of Chinese lives and do their businesses.
 
To me, it doesn't matter where Yi plays, its the numbers he puts up. Heck, we have so many good imports in the PBA who couldn't even approach Yi's average in the NBA.

Its unfair to insist that Yi is in the NBA just as a marketing ploy. He has EXCELLED in FIBA tournaments before he got into the NBA, and continues to put good numbers in the NBA. He deserves to be there.
 
Japeth Aguilar , if he can play in the NBDL that would increase his chances of getting a call-up from a NBA team. This is something I would hope some international young stars who have talent but need better coaching and training to develop their game would do and try to play in the NBDL. Chen Jianghua is also another player that comes to mind. The exposure to more competition seems more beneficial.

Yi Jianlian has talent and it shows especially in the international level. In the NBA, many foreign players take time to adjust and even some U.S. players can only adjust to a certain system. I would expect the same for any player outside of the U.S., including the Philippines, and wouldn't be so quick to call him a marketing ploy.

If Yi Jianlian was Filipino, I wonder how many of you would criticize him and just call him a marketing ploy?
 
Japeth Aguilar , if he can play in the NBDL that would increase his chances of getting a call-up from a NBA team. This is something I would hope some international young stars who have talent but need better coaching and training to develop their game would do and try to play in the NBDL. Chen Jianghua is also another player that comes to mind. The exposure to more competition seems more beneficial.

Yi Jianlian has talent and it shows especially in the international level. In the NBA, many foreign players take time to adjust and even some U.S. players can only adjust to a certain system. I would expect the same for any player outside of the U.S., including the Philippines, and wouldn't be so quick to call him a marketing ploy.

If Yi Jianlian was Filipino, I wonder how many of you would criticize him and just call him a marketing ploy?

I, for one, consider Yi a legit NBA player. It shows in his stats. He was almost averaging in double figures before that injury hit him last year. Give him another two, three years and teams will be fighting for his services.
 
Common critics stop talking about Yi as a marketing ploy. He deserve to be on what he is right now. He is still on the adjusting period and learning stage ( and injuries ). Look at Hedo he is not as a good as he is today when he was in his first 3 years in the NBA. Its just a matter of having a big break and find a good system that he is comfortable of playing.
 
eugene amano, first full-blooded pinoy on NFL

eugene amano, first full-blooded pinoy on NFL

buti pa NFL, may full-blooded pinoy na:

translation: how come NFL has a pure pinoy?



joanjoyce@joanjoyce.com said:
Full Blooded Pinoy on NFL


Eugene Amano, 25 years old, 6 feet and 3 inches tall, 310 pounds, a full blooded Pinoy is a star offensive lineman for Tennessee Titans, who broke into the majors as the seventh round pick in the 2004 draft in the National Football League.

His father also a Eugene, served in the US Navy for about 25 years and his mother Aida, who is a nurse were based in the Philippines when he was born. Yes, Eugene was born here in Manila and moved to the United States and stays in San Diego when he was 2 months old. His younger brother Fred is a defensive tackle and plays football as a varsity player in San Diego State. His older sister Allison is currently studying in a San Diego nursing school.

He was an all-star in basketball, track and football at Rancho Bernardo High School in San Diego. But in football is where he excelled, having all conference honors as an offensive and defensive lineman during his senior year. But despite all his credentials, he was then ignored by NCAA Division I schools. But He planned to try out for the varsity at either University of New Mexico or the San Diego State when a coach from Southeast Missouri State called one of his mentors that they are looking for junior college prospects. He was in the list of candidates and he turned out getting a football scholarship at Southeast Missouri State.

Eugene had shown brilliance during college. He played all his games for the school, from midway in his freshman year until his final days as a senior. Amano was tagged on being the All-America first team and have won the Dave Rimington Award, an award given to the top center in college football. On his last 2 seasons as a varsity player, he increased the school’s offensive clip to more than 380 yards and averaged 90 touchdowns.

His physical stunts are commendable. He has done 30 repetitions of 225 pounds, lifted a 396 pound power clean and run the 40 yard dash in 5.16, performed a 620 pound squat. But Eugene is also admired as a role model because of his giving importance on education than his physical attributes.

Eugene was 27 credit away on having a diploma in criminal justice at Southeast Missouri State when he entered the NFL. But unlike other major league players who puts their education on hold or in less priority, Eugene continued to work on his education through online courses, independent study and have an internship with the police department where he worked with detectives on a campaign against drugs during the off season of 2006.

Last May 2006, Eugene received his degree in criminal justice from Southeast Missouri State and hopes to become a federal agent or join the FBI when his football career is over. Eugene loves Pinoy foods and his all time sports hero is David Robinson. In his 4th year with the Titans, Eugene has seen the NFL team develop into a 5-11 doormat in 2004 to a playoff contender this season.

Also US born Roman Ildonzo Gabriel Jr who is half-Filipino and half-Irish American, played in the NFL too from 1962 to 1977 and was then the only football player with Filipino roots. Now we have Eugene Amano found on record books as the first full blooded Pinoy on NFL.


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Hehehe. We may be moving at a snail's pace when it comes to getting players in the NBA, besides having a full blooded pinoy in the NFL, take a look at what's happening to our rugby team. Already at division II level compared to Division 5 I think just months ago.
 
Get the house in order, expose our players in international tournaments and once they start performing especially winning then for sure it's only a matter of time before our basketball players whether home grown or not will be seriously considered. At the moment we do have few NBA calibre guys especially those who are based in the US but it will take exceptional talent and a stroke of luck to get one of them to play in the NBA. IMHO the 1's and 2's have the best shot. Why Jimmy Alapag isn't even mentioned, I don't know. Maybe his age... Maybe Coach Spoelstra who will be attending a family homecoming in the Phils. very soon could help. He is in the best position to get some of our guys attend Miami's training camps and who knows.
 
Hehehe. We may be moving at a snail's pace when it comes to getting players in the NBA, besides having a full blooded pinoy in the NFL, take a look at what's happening to our rugby team. Already at division II level compared to Division 5 I think just months ago.

A big congratulations to the Phil. Rugby Team(Vulcanoes)! I hope that the rugby heirarchy in the Phils. won't have organizations like BCAP. They might start objecting to foreign coach such as Coach Cullen and a good number of his wards who are foreign bred!
 
buti pa NFL, may full-blooded pinoy na:

translation: how come NFL has a pure pinoy?






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There were full-blooded Filipinos in NFL and MLB, but they are born, raised and developed their respective game in US. . . For RP, to claimed and owned them is a half-baked idea. . . Though I am hoping that one day a home-grown full blooded Filipino will play in the NBA. . .
 
A big congratulations to the Phil. Rugby Team(Vulcanoes)! I hope that the rugby heirarchy in the Phils. won't have organizations like BCAP. They might start objecting to foreign coach such as Coach Cullen and a good number of his wards who are foreign bred!

They can't afford to be restrictive. With few Philippine locals who followed the sport, and most of RP side composed of expatriate half-Filipinos mostly from UK, OZ and NZ it is only pitting that the coach must be foreigner as well. . .
 
There were full-blooded Filipinos in NFL and MLB, but they are born, raised and developed their respective game in US. . . For RP, to claimed and owned them is a half-baked idea. . . Though I am hoping that one day a home-grown full blooded Filipino will play in the NBA. . .

that will never happen.........
 
nate acknowledges his pinoy roots. playing for smart gilas may be a pipe dream now. but who knows? maybe in the forseeable future. :)

by the way, arenas was quoted as saying if nba players are down and out or something, they should consider playing in the philippines. hmmm.... ;)

http://dimemag.com/2010/01/nate-robinson/

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The Thrilla In Manila: Nate Robinson Talks About His Filipino Roots
By Gerald Narciso


“I hope to hear more from Nate Robinson. He is going to have an entire country looking up to him as an inspiration. I am part filipino as well and proud to say “I am pinoy.” – YouTube user Pacman344140Hagler

Manila might be more than a dozen time zones away from Los Angeles, but people in the Philippines are fully aware of what’s going on with the Lakers as well as the other 29 teams in the league. To put things bluntly, Filipinos are crazy for the NBA. And by crazy, I mean like what college football is to people in South Bend. Or what soccer is to people in England and what hockey is to folks in Toronto. Get the point? The league has also taken notice of the passion Filipinos have for basketball.

“For us, the issue is continued growth,” NBA commissioner David Stern told the Philippine Daily Inquirer earlier this month. “We try to be the No. 1 or No. 2 sport in every country. The two places where we know we are the No. 1 sport are the Philippines and China.”

Although there has not been any NBA preseason games in the Philippines as of yet, the league has sponsored several promotional tours there. NBA players like Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O’Neal, Gilbert Arenas, Channing Frye and Andre Iguodala have all visited the southeastern Asian country of 92 million people in recent years.

Arenas wrote this in his NBA.com blog in the summer of 2008:

“Then we stopped in Manila. It was a different world. I’ve never seen
fans like that in my life.”

“I was stunned. They made me feel like an NBA star. Any NBA players out there: If you’re having a bad day, or you’re having a bad career, go to Manila. They’ll bring your spirits up, trust me.”
The country’s interest in NBA basketball is amazing considering the fact that they don’t have a player in the league that they can truly identify with. Although Miami Heat coach Erik Spoelstra is half Filipino, there has never been a Philippine-born player in the NBA. Raymond Townsend, who was drafted in the first round of the 1978 NBA Draft by the Golden State Warriors, was born in America and is half Filipino.

Since Townsend, there hasn’t been anybody with any Filipino blood to play in the NBA – or at least one that was known anyway. But that all changed recently as it was revealed in this YouTube video that the Knicks’ Nate Robinson has some Filipino in him.

Being Filipino myself, naturally this was of interest to me. Before the Knicks played the Raptors on Friday night, I approached Nate in the locker room and asked him if it was true.

“That is true,” Robinson said as he sat at his locker. “I’m like 1/8th, on my momma’s side. But that’s like digging down the line though. It’s like great, great grandparent.”

Looking somewhat surprised, Nate asked me how I found out. I told him about the YouTube clip and how they debated whether that 1/8th was enough to put him on the national team. I also told Robinson about fans in the Philippines and how crazy they are about basketball. Robinson shook his head in amazement and smiled.

“I know that’s what I heard, somebody told me that on Twitter,” Robinson said about the news breaking about his Filipino genes. “I didn’t really take it too seriously. But we’ll see how it goes. Playing on the national team would be pretty cool though.”

I then asked him if his mom had maintained any customs or cooked Filipino food while Robinson was growing up.

“Naw she doesn’t, but she was raised in a Filipino family,” said Robinson. “But I’d really have to ask her about the history behind it and how it was.”

But just because Robinson’s immediate family doesn’t practice Filipino traditions, doesn’t mean the Seattle native is in the dark when it comes to the culture.

“I eat the lumpias (Filipino egg rolls) and everything,” says the 5-9 Robinson. “I have a lot of Filipino friends and we always ate it with sweet and sour sauce. My boy Sylvester, he lives with me. He’s Filipino and black. His mom, makes lumpias for us all the time and we go buy the ingredients when she comes over.”

While seeing Robinson suit up for the Philippine National Team is extremely unlikely, it does give the country another reason to love NBA basketball. Fans in the Philippines probably already love the two-time dunk contest champion – this will just skyrocket his popularity there. You see how much pride us Filipinos have with boxing sensation Manny Pacquiao. Now we can also say we have Nate Robinson.

Well…kind of.
 
asian-american newspaper talks about the possibility of nate joining philippine NT. Oh well....

http://www.asianjournal.com/galing-...cks-nate-robinson-pinoy-slam-dunk-champ-.html

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New York Knicks’ Nate Robinson: Pinoy Slam Dunk Champ
Sunday, 17 January 2010 19:29 AJPress

YES, a Pinoy has won a basketball slam dunk title.It may be hard for anyone to believe but a current player with Filipino descent has won a National Basketball Association Slam Dunk title. Twice.

Meet Nate Robinson, a 5’9" (with shoes) point guard for the New York Knicks that has an amazing 44" vertical leap.

He’s also one-eighth Filipino although you’d be hard pressed to find it in his features.

According to basketball writer Rafe Bartholomew as quoted by Philstar, Robinson’s Pinoy roots are from his mother’s side.

"Pinoy daw ang lolo niya," Bartholomew told Philstar.

Bartholomew, who wrote a profile about Robinson for the Seattle Weekly, interviewed Robinson’s mother Renee Busch and she confirmed that her great grand father was full Filipino.

The 25-year-old Robinson won two NBA Slam Dunk titles. One title came during the NBA All-Star festivities in his rookie year in 2005-2006, he beat out Philadelphia 76ers star Andre Igoudala in the Rising Stars Slam Dunk Contest and another in 2008, when he donned green Knicks attire and dubbed himself "KryptoNate" to defeat "Superman" 6’ 11" power forward/ center Dwight Howard.

When word spread earlier this year that an NBA player especially one with the caliber of Robinson is part Filipino have some Pinoy basketball fans giddy.

The reason: Robinson could play for the Philippine National Basketball Team.

Philstar’s Joaquin Henson wrote, "Technically, Robinson could be considered a Fil-Am or more like an Am-Fil. If he is issued a Filipino passport on that basis as a dual citizen, then the 5’ 9" human dynamo from Seattle qualifies to play for Gilas – not as a naturalized import but as a Filipino like Fil-Ams Marcio Lassiter and Chris Lutz.

Of course, Robinson has to agree to apply for a Filipino passport and play for [Rajko Toroman’s Smart] Gilas [National Team]."

And that’s the kicker.

No one is quite sure if Robinson knows of his Filipino roots or care to know. His mother, Busch, seems very fond of her Filipino great grandfather. It’s easy to speculate that if Robinson’s family has lived in the Seattle, Washington area for generations, it makes sense his grandfather may have been part of the early Filipino migrant workers who left the Philippines in the early 1900’s for better paying jobs and opportunities in the US.

RP National Team

It’s a possibility, albeit a slight one.

But it’s highly unlikely.

The Philippine National Basketball team would love to have a player the caliber of Robinson. Robinson style fits the profile of the current national team.

The Philippine National team hasn’t made the Olympics in more than 36 years. The last time the Philippines had a basketball team in the Olympics was in 1972, the same year Ferdinand Marcos implemented Martial Law. The team finished in 13th place.

Robinson is a quick, gritty point guard known for his relentlessness to drive toward the basket and showboating. He plays much bigger than his size.

The former Washington Huskie football and basketball player was the 21st pick chosen in the first round of the 2005 NBA draft. He joins Raymond Townsend, as the only other player with Filipino descent to be drafted in the first round of an NBA draft.

Sports Illustrated described him as "a sparkplug guard who’s built like a defensive back."

After being drafted by the Phoenix Suns, he was immediately traded to the New York Knicks.

Last year, Robinson had a breakout season averaging more than 17 points per game and four assists.

This year, Robinson couldn’t continue that momentum. His coach, Mark D’Antoni placed him in the doghouse early in the season and Robinson is now just getting some meaningful playing time.

Filipinos can only hope. Qualifying tournaments for the 2012 Olympic summer games are right around the corner.

And Robinson, could compliment the current Philippine National squad. (AJPress)

( www.asianjournal.com )

( Published January 16, 2010 in Asian Journal Los Angeles p. A10 )
 
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