nardy
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Official SBP Thread
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donmar
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I didn't made this one somebody did it... I guess we could start a new one... what do you think?
Thanks for the FIBA one
... I've been searching the website for like about three days.. I guess we could use that one once we got enough signature with the petition...I wonder if we can find e-mails of the FIBA Officials... just to show them we're serious..
Servinio
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joeven
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I didn't made this one somebody did it... I guess we could start a new one... what do you think?
Thanks for the FIBA one
I wonder if we can find e-mails of the FIBA Officials... just to show them we're serious..
Now is the time for us "pinoy basketball lovers" to unite and forget our differences for the sake of our beloved TEAM PILIPINAS!
Let's all do what we can do just for the glory of the Three stars and the sun... I know we can do it! God is with us so i know there's no one who can be against us!
Kinakalaban ng mga 'undisirable aliens' na to ang bayan na pinagpala ng Diyos!
Count me in! Kasama niyo ako sa laban! Sama sama tayo alang-alang sa minamahal nating PILIPINAS!
MABUHAY ANG PILIPNAS!
I didn't made this one somebody did it... I guess we could start a new one... what do you think?
Thanks for the FIBA one
I wonder if we can find e-mails of the FIBA Officials... just to show them we're serious..
This was all I could find. Baumann does not have a personal e-mail listed:
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/FIBA/fibaStaff/fibaStaff2.asp
iandi_dunka
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see sig!!! to all filipino basketball lovers now is the time to fight!!!
dtfernando
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The SBP forgot to bury the ex-BAP properly, thus the living dead still walks
The SBP forgot to bury the ex-BAP properly, thus the living dead still walks
The FIBA clearly overstepped its jurisdiction as well as standard operating procedures regarding the claims of the ex-BAP. For one it did not do any preliminary investigation in the Philippines itself to establish incontrovertible facts as to whether the ex-BAP has the recognized authority to handle Filipino federations, teams and players, and whether the ex-BAP itself can name national-grade teams and basketball players under the teams and players under its claimed Philippine scope of authorities.
The institution that produces national team players is the basketball institution for a given country. Period. If the ex-BAP cannot identify the national team it has, as well as the basketball players of that alleged national team, then it cannot even have an iota of justification that it is a legitimate national basketball association in the Philippines.
Of course, the allegations of the ex-BAP are nothing more than trash. Further, the FIBA-Asia cannot arrogate unto itself the power to form any investigative commission formed by whoever is called in as members, without prior notification and without prior rules and regulations, as it pleases. It is not even within its powers to do so. In other words, the quasi-judicial powers of the FIBA-Asia can only be vested by its own member-nations, and the member-nations have not given the FIBA-Asia any authority to form the particular investigative commission or have approved the processes and procedures for the SOPs of such investigation. At the very least, the Commission proper should have been stocked with active representatives of other Asian nation-members who are selected randomly. The Commission is nothing more than an illegitimate construct that will be used to legitimize an illegitimate institution and misrepresentors/usurpers of Philippine national basketball under the group of saboteurs-provocateurs known as the ex-BAP.
The ex-BAP can always show you the money. But what it needs to do right now is to show who their Philippine National Team players and officials are, and list their national basketball accomplishments under the leadership -- or lack thereof -- of the complainant ex-BAP. The FIBA-Asia Commission also has to show what the legal basis are of their powers are in coming up with an ad hoc investigation commission, and why they haven't done any preliminary investigation in the Philippines itself. If they cannot even do these very simple test of legitimacy, the SBP can file formal charges -- even
in Philippine courts or even international arbitration bodies -- against the officers of these seriously flawed basketball organizations.
The idiotic moves of the ex-BAP and the FIBA-Asia nonetheless would indicate that the SBP still has a lot of unification work in progress; this is the real reason behind the SBP's vulnerability.
Personally, it was really foolish for the SBP to have even tried to unify basketball in the Philippines -- most of the time, it is always best to leave ex-BAP-grade illusionists and delusionists alone. MVP and the rest of the wealthier sponsors, as well as school associations like the UAAP, NCAA and CESAFI should have gone into far more rewarding -- and grateful -- sports like archery, shooting, rugby, volleyball and field athletics. Sports that are less populated by power-fools.
Of course, the ex-BAP was never vulnerable -- it was never able to establish its usefulness or competence as a national basketball federation in the first place under ex-BAP officials. Having ex-BAP officials as complainants is much like having proven criminals accuse the justice system of being unjust.
The SBP forgot to bury the ex-BAP properly, thus the living dead still walks
The FIBA clearly overstepped its jurisdiction as well as standard operating procedures regarding the claims of the ex-BAP. For one it did not do any preliminary investigation in the Philippines itself to establish incontrovertible facts as to whether the ex-BAP has the recognized authority to handle Filipino federations, teams and players, and whether the ex-BAP itself can name national-grade teams and basketball players under the teams and players under its claimed Philippine scope of authorities.
The institution that produces national team players is the basketball institution for a given country. Period. If the ex-BAP cannot identify the national team it has, as well as the basketball players of that alleged national team, then it cannot even have an iota of justification that it is a legitimate national basketball association in the Philippines.
Of course, the allegations of the ex-BAP are nothing more than trash. Further, the FIBA-Asia cannot arrogate unto itself the power to form any investigative commission formed by whoever is called in as members, without prior notification and without prior rules and regulations, as it pleases. It is not even within its powers to do so. In other words, the quasi-judicial powers of the FIBA-Asia can only be vested by its own member-nations, and the member-nations have not given the FIBA-Asia any authority to form the particular investigative commission or have approved the processes and procedures for the SOPs of such investigation. At the very least, the Commission proper should have been stocked with active representatives of other Asian nation-members who are selected randomly. The Commission is nothing more than an illegitimate construct that will be used to legitimize an illegitimate institution and misrepresentors/usurpers of Philippine national basketball under the group of saboteurs-provocateurs known as the ex-BAP.
The ex-BAP can always show you the money. But what it needs to do right now is to show who their Philippine National Team players and officials are, and list their national basketball accomplishments under the leadership -- or lack thereof -- of the complainant ex-BAP. The FIBA-Asia Commission also has to show what the legal basis are of their powers are in coming up with an ad hoc investigation commission, and why they haven't done any preliminary investigation in the Philippines itself. If they cannot even do these very simple test of legitimacy, the SBP can file formal charges -- even
in Philippine courts or even international arbitration bodies -- against the officers of these seriously flawed basketball organizations.
The idiotic moves of the ex-BAP and the FIBA-Asia nonetheless would indicate that the SBP still has a lot of unification work in progress; this is the real reason behind the SBP's vulnerability.
Personally, it was really foolish for the SBP to have even tried to unify basketball in the Philippines -- most of the time, it is always best to leave ex-BAP-grade illusionists and delusionists alone. MVP and the rest of the wealthier sponsors, as well as school associations like the UAAP, NCAA and CESAFI should have gone into far more rewarding -- and grateful -- sports like archery, shooting, rugby, volleyball and field athletics. Sports that are less populated by power-fools.
Of course, the ex-BAP was never vulnerable -- it was never able to establish its usefulness or competence as a national basketball federation in the first place under ex-BAP officials. Having ex-BAP officials as complainants is much like having proven criminals accuse the justice system of being unjust.
dxjayrock2008
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All I can say to BAP thugs to get their heads cut-off & shove it right into their candy@sses!
bolabasket
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i think we should flood Malacañang with emails against Gahaman Lim's and Villapeste's group so PGMA can act on swiftly 
c_d
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i think we should flood Malacañang with emails against Gahaman Lim's and Villapeste's group so PGMA can act on swiftly
http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php?option=com_contact&task=view&contact_id=1&Itemid=92
dxjayrock2008
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If the BAP thugs wants to play dirty, we must play dirtier than them. Eye for an eye & tooth for a tooth.
bolabasket
Active member
Calling all presidentiables......
its best for us to be the better individuals in this situation, so that the many can see which side speaks the truth.
PowerMove
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Gameface.PH already combine all the threads related to BAP demonic movement, thread titled "LET'S SAVE PHILIPPINE BASKETBALL!" I hope moderator here do the same too.
"Ipaglaban natin ang tunay na NSA ng ating bansa, SBP nasa inyo ang panig ng lahat ng Pilipinong nagmamahal sa Basketball!"
"Ipaglaban natin ang tunay na NSA ng ating bansa, SBP nasa inyo ang panig ng lahat ng Pilipinong nagmamahal sa Basketball!"
this is what i fear! i hope MVP will not give up in this fight. if SBP will be controlled again by the BAP people, i will never again support the NT besides what team are they are going to assemble? i'm sure the PBA and other major stakeholders will boycott all of BAP's programs. it's better for us to be suspended indefinitely by FIBA rather than to see these people run our basketball federation.