Philippines Cadet/Developmental Team

[thatweirdguy]

I prefer rugby and Austrialian-rules football (footy) as the other sports that I wish that teens should play. Haha

What's the second most popular sport in the Philippines? Volleyball? I don't think rugby ranks up high in there.

I just wish that more kids would take up sports instead of e-games or TikTok

 

[C2Hamm]

What's the second most popular sport in the Philippines? Volleyball? I don't think rugby ranks up high in there.

I just wish that more kids would take up sports instead of e-games or TikTok

where can they play for free or for free with enough space for sports like football\baseball (where we are decent surprisingly)?
i was born and raised in the Philippines and i didnt learn how to swim until later on. you would think since we are an island nation, learning to swim is accessible. but unless you have access to nearby body of water, wala, you need to drive a fair bit and pay for a trainer. i understand paying for someone, pero for the less fortunate, paano na? infrastructure to open these sports to the greater majority is needed.

 

[Metta]

where can they play for free or for free with enough space for sports like football\baseball (where we are decent surprisingly)?
i was born and raised in the Philippines and i didnt learn how to swim until later on. you would think since we are an island nation, learning to swim is accessible. but unless you have access to nearby body of water, wala, you need to drive a fair bit and pay for a trainer. i understand paying for someone, pero for the less fortunate, paano na? infrastructure to open these sports to the greater majority is needed.

This is what I meant when I said "improve the culture of youth sports" in the Philippines.

It needs to be a concerted effort. More parks, more community effort. In fiestas for example, have different sport contests for the youth. Schools need to be involved too.

People will complain about the costs...well, the busier the kids are the less likely they turn to negative vices. That alone justifies the cost. Add to that the health benefits.

 

[zairex]

This is what I meant when I said "improve the culture of youth sports" in the Philippines.

It needs to be a concerted effort. More parks, more community effort. In fiestas for example, have different sport contests for the youth. Schools need to be involved too.

People will complain about the costs...well, the busier the kids are the less likely they turn to negative vices. That alone justifies the cost. Add to that the health benefits.

The thing is can you quantify that.

 

[Sikatrix]

Schools are involved in youth development for better or worse. Better obviously being the resources poured into teams and players. Worse being resources being poured on players that should move on from that level of basketball.

 

[Giannis34GOD]

Not that I'm downplaying the achievements of the Filipinas, but this paradigm shift that most of us here are wishing for will be more realized if it's the men's side that makes the PHL sports landcape-altering achievement, in this case it's the Men's FIFA WC (expansion of slots or no expansion, it would be the most pretigious achievement for PFF if ever).

Basketball had this moment of "cataclysmic" proportions when Gilas made the 2014 World Cup and the subsequent respectable showings up to 2016 OQT, making the sport grow more and affirm the billionaire patrons' support, even if the 2017 to present years are considered lean years for the sport in the international level.

This is what i'm telling to one New zealander guy... Women's FIFA WC are not appealing to everyone than the mens... Heck, The volleyball version are the most feminine sport in all of ball sports because of the structure of the sport most suits for female athletes... Most of Europeans and Arabic countries doesn't care in womens version of FIFA WC.... Even the USAWNT (most dominant team there) were not popular in the US... soccer/football in US are not appealing for most of Americans...

 

[Giannis34GOD]

What's the second most popular sport in the Philippines? Volleyball? I don't think rugby ranks up high in there.

I just wish that more kids would take up sports instead of e-games or TikTok

If we based by number of gate attendance, number of professional athletes, number of tournaments, sponsorships, social media followers and number of views in every games/fights... These will be the rankings:

1.) Basketball - No question
2.) Volleyball - Their professional league games drawing huge number of fans, almost same as basketball games in the Philippines, and their athletes are popular too, even treat them as celebrities from games and social media sites...
3.) Boxing - Until Manny Pacquiao is alive, the boxing still within top 3 most popular sport in the Philippines
4.) Football - The popularity of football came from 2010 and recently Philippine womens team make it to the FIFA Womens WC, but lacks of followers, sponsorship and fans watching on their games, in recent game attendance of AFF tourney, The Philippines are dead last in fan supporters watching from their venues, even beat by Brunei...
5.) Billiards - One of most popular gambling games and money maker sport, Also Efren Bata Reyes is still there as the legend of sport worldwide..


Such as baseball, Bowling and Olympic sports such as badminton, tennis, weightlifting, Golf and athletics are popular too.. But lacks of followers and media attention...

And i agree with you on the last part especially no benefit on using TiKTok aside of getting some attention and little fame... But on esports, i think there is a huge money here, and this is now a fastest growing sport in the world right now.... Maybe after 10 years, E-Sports will be on the top 5 most popular sport in every country on earth, Since this is a very easy sport to play with and prices there are huge...

 

[Metta]

The thing is can you quantify that.

Well, there are ways to estimate. However, statistics can always be manipulated to suit an agenda. But just as a though experiment...how much is spent on the war on drugs? If we can make a dent on that alone. Then you also have the cost of healthcare for avoidable illnesses that a healthy lifestyle can reduce, again something you can estimate. So yeah, it's not easy but aspects of it can be quantified. Some positive aspects of it though cannot, like how student-athletes become goal-oriented, disciplined and well-rounded. But you can just treat those as bonuses.

 

[C2Hamm]

This is what I meant when I said "improve the culture of youth sports" in the Philippines.

It needs to be a concerted effort. More parks, more community effort. In fiestas for example, have different sport contests for the youth. Schools need to be involved too.

People will complain about the costs...well, the busier the kids are the less likely they turn to negative vices. That alone justifies the cost. Add to that the health benefits.

this is part of how Iceland reduced its drug addiction with youth. i forgot the name of the program. planet youth ata. so aside from parental and government guidance, they jampack activities of the youth so between these activities and school work, they barely have any time left to do anything else on the weekday. and then the weekend less activity so they can time with the family. its costly, but it had great social impact. you can search for it.

 

[Metta]

this is part of how Iceland reduced its drug addiction with youth. i forgot the name of the program. planet youth ata. so aside from parental and government guidance, they jampack activities of the youth so between these activities and school work, they barely have any time left to do anything else on the weekday. and then the weekend less activity so they can time with the family. its costly, but it had great social impact. you can search for it.

It doesn't surprise me. It's timeless wisdom..."idle hands are the devil's workshop." Gotta keep kids busy with worthwhile pursuits, especially those with not a lot of guidance/support.

 

[judasmartel]

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Plus, you don't need to be an athletic freak of nature to be good at E-Sports.

 

[IPC]

We might wanna give this 15yo kid a watch.

 

[Metta]

We might wanna give this 15yo kid a watch.

Body structure suggests he's not done growing. But frustratingly raw at 15. Age 15 is already "borderline late" if world-level guard skills is the goal. Especially if he didn't play any other sport when he was much younger, which seems to be the case with how he moves.

If it's accurate that he is 6'6" now, based on his build and parent's height, he may grow to at least 6'8". If he has lofty goals, he needs to be on a serious athleticism/speed training program ASAP. It's too late for US NCAA though where prospects commit at age 16-17. If there's no sense of urgency, he'll go the usual pinoy big man route.

 

[Metta]

We might wanna give this 15yo kid a watch.

Someone asked the question "how come we're not developing nba-level prospects like Japan."

Well, this illustrates the problem. We already have a shortage of 6'6" and above players, and still this is what happens to the very few that we have (and it was pretty obvious this kid will grow tall so identifying him shouldn't have been a problem). Training is late and inadequate. Then the level of competition does no favors to the kid, he needs to be playing up. Problem is he lacks the skill and doesn't move well so he can't play up right now. The things he needed to do is difficult and demanding for a young player... but that is what it takes. If it was easy, we'd have nba players by now.

 

[IPC]

RUI HACHIMURA WAY...

Hopefully PINOY Ballers can also get this type of route on their way to the NBA...

Homegrown? Too much money to leave on the table for them. They're getting paid way too much there then there's also the foreign teams who are recruiting promising players.

Hence the need to provide sponsorships so that they can still earn money while developing overseas. SBP should be leading the charge, especially if the heads have influence in a money-laden company or corporation.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Hence the need to provide sponsorships so that they can still earn money while developing overseas. SBP should be leading the charge, especially if the heads have influence in a money-laden company or corporation.

Yes, Money is always a big factor.

It is easy to say "Our Promising Homegrown Young Players should go overseas to be better"

But without financial and even moral/family support, it will be very hard.

Yeah, hopefully there will be some sponsors in the future

 

[BJ_Reloaded]

We might wanna give this 15yo kid a watch.

Body structure suggests he's not done growing. But frustratingly raw at 15. Age 15 is already "borderline late" if world-level guard skills is the goal. Especially if he didn't play any other sport when he was much younger, which seems to be the case with how he moves.

If it's accurate that he is 6'6" now, based on his build and parent's height, he may grow to at least 6'8". If he has lofty goals, he needs to be on a serious athleticism/speed training program ASAP. It's too late for US NCAA though where prospects commit at age 16-17. If there's no sense of urgency, he'll go the usual pinoy big man route.

Someone asked the question "how come we're not developing nba-level prospects like Japan."

Well, this illustrates the problem. We already have a shortage of 6'6" and above players, and still this is what happens to the very few that we have (and it was pretty obvious this kid will grow tall so identifying him shouldn't have been a problem). Training is late and inadequate. Then the level of competition does no favors to the kid, he needs to be playing up. Problem is he lacks the skill and doesn't move well so he can't play up right now. The things he needed to do is difficult and demanding for a young player... but that is what it takes. If it was easy, we'd have nba players by now.

Hence the need to provide sponsorships so that they can still earn money while developing overseas. SBP should be leading the charge, especially if the heads have influence in a money-laden company or corporation.

Yes, Money is always a big factor.

It is easy to say "Our Promising Homegrown Young Players should go overseas to be better"

But without financial and even moral/family support, it will be very hard.

Yeah, hopefully there will be some sponsors in the future

I simply don’t understand why the SBP hasn’t contacted the likes of coach Jeff Codera The Man With The Million Drills who already voice out his intention to support the SBP(almost for free?) to develop prospective laddies to become FIBA ready ballers moving forward, look at Carl Tamayo, one of his previous product.

 

[thatweirdguy]

Hence the need to provide sponsorships so that they can still earn money while developing overseas. SBP should be leading the charge, especially if the heads have influence in a money-laden company or corporation.

Still it's very risky and with way things are, very complicated. They have to deal with the family, handlers etc and play politics too. And it's expensive with no real reassurance of ROI. Look at what happened with Japs, Kobe, Ael Banal, Chiu etc,.

 

[DAdmiral]

*To me this is the best career pathway to the NBA

2019, King joined the*NBA*Global Academy, a training center at the*Australian Institute of Sport*in*Canberra. In association with the academy, he played for BA Centre of Excellence in the*NBL1, an Australian semi-professional league.[4]*Later that year, King represented Queensland South at the Australian Under-18 Championships

*12 March 2020, at the age of 17, King signed with the*Cairns Taipans*of the*National Basketball League*(NBL) as a part of the league's*Next Stars program*to develop*NBA draft*prospects.[5][6]*By joining the NBL, he turned down offers from several*NCAA Division I*programs, including*Arizona,*Baylor,*Oregon*and*Virginia.[7]*During the*2020?21 season, King averaged 6.2 points and 2.4 rebounds.[8]*On 14 July 2021, King was transferred to the*Adelaide 36ers*for the final year of his Next Stars contract.[9]

*7 September 2022, King signed a contract with the*NBA G League Ignite.[11][12]

King likely to be drafted or offered a two way contract this summer
Can even decide to defer another year to enter NBA draft in 2024 as a 22 year old international prospect

Ben Gold another NBA academy player who isnnow in Marquette as a freshman is the alternative (4 years NCAA)

Goes without saying Kai's pathway is the way NOT to do it . Full of bad decisions.

 

[Metta]

I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. For me, it circles back to improving our youth sports culture. It would have done wonders for Sharma if at age 5-7 he already started playing any physical sport, anything with running, jumping, different movements (heck it can even be dancing) anything that he enjoys. He would be moving more fluidly and quicker by now.

At around age 10 (the latest), teach potentially tall kids to dribble. Nothing fancy, just simple and effective ball-handling. Learning to dribble early gets you a leg up on being allowed to play point. Also at around age 10 you can teach most kids any difficult skill (like off-hand finishing) within 3-4 months. At age 5-10 no need for pro-trainers or difficult drills, just playful practices.

If a kid does this and becomes extremely tall, his chances for elite levels goes up. Then at right before HS, if he really loves basketball, then that is the time to get serious. At that point he should already have the necessary skills, and a body/mind that is wired to be more athletic. At that time it is up to how much the kid wants it and let nature take its course.