Who will be the best promising player of Eurobasket 2011

[Kalashnikov]

Rankings are based on Eurobasket 2011 performances. Albicy hasn't showed anything to us yet.

Thanks Pohani. It is a pleasure.

Kudos to you Dudu! Very rarely do we have the pleasure in this forum to see such a post. Great compilation!

[Terrorizer]

Yeah, Dudullullu, thank you very much for your compilation. It's very interesting to see some stats-based, informative posts in the topic and not the tiresome "Enes or Jonas" debate
I can tell some things about our young players. Semyon Antonov (1989 YOB) had some kind of a breakthrough season with the debutante Nizhniy Novgorod in this year's PBL (though the progress of the only a year older power forward/center Artyom Yakovenko with this team was not less spectacular, I think that if his progress continues Artyom can be a candidate to a senior national team in a very short perspective), playing very intensely, stable and mature for his age. He still was no favourite for a place in our NT on EuroBasket but made very good impression on the coaching staff by his hard work, athleticism and perfect physical shape in the first preparatory camp (which was intended for the young perspective players and has only one tested before in major tournaments player in Anton Ponkrashov) and finally (very surprisingly for some people even in Russia) made it to the final roster. And he well deserved it. As of now, he plays his limited minutes with brilliant intensity and besides his only 202 cm gives our team some very much needed (since because of Kaun's and Zhukanenko's injuries we are playning with only one real center, Timofey Mozgov, and Blatt thoughtlessly didn't included other Cs like, f.e., Sokolov in the roster) power and physical presence in the paint. He even manages to shoot the threes when open with very decent percentage (and this is not something he can brag about concerning last PBL season). I am very impressed with his performance in preparartory games and in tournament so far and I think that he has enough of a potential to make himself a respected name in the European basketball in a near future.
Sadly, Khvostov is another story. While Antonov played 2009/2010 season in a second-tier league of Russian basketball, Khvostov had debuted in Euroleague in 2006 at the age of 17 and in that year's Dynamo Moscow QF with PAO he was playing 17 mpg. So future once looked bright for him and being one of the stars of U16-U18 EuroChamps he was the brightest Russian prospect at the playmaker position in his generation. But he still has to come to fulfill the promises he made in so young age: his development as of now looks clearly stagnated, he still hasn't stable long-range shooting, kinda lost his court vision and even in pretty weak last year's Dynamo team he wasn't a leader he was expected to be. And in this tournament he struggles - 0/6 from the field in 3 games looks very depressing. Also our positional offence with him as the floor general looks very chaotic and disoriented. All in all, it's a sad story 'cause he was (and maybe still is) a very talented player.
Don't wanna talk that much about Jonas, Enes and Bojan as they are pretty in the center of everyone's attention - so I'll leave it to others. Among other players born 1989 or later I was expecting something big in this EuroBasket from Nihad Djedovic, Tornike Shengelia, Sasu Salin, Andrew Albicy (though I suspected that with Parker in the roster he won't get any playing time), Bozhidar Avramov, Robin Benzing, mentioned above Semyon Antonov and, of course, the one and only Milan Macvan (though I think of him as of a rather established player and not as of a some kind of junior). Yet I'd like to see Macvan playing more in this Serbia team, I can say that aside from Albicy and Avramov my high expectations mostly came true. And that Berisha kid (although he is from 1988) was at times so good and surprisingly confident (sometimes even overconfident ).

[hustlerlt]

I knew someone would make that.

I wonder why he didn't play against turkey, do you know?

also, saras made even cemal nalga score, probably it is not hard for him to make jonas score.

So basically when Jonas played very little in the beginning,you couldn't understand how he could even be consider as a promising prospect.Now that he started to play more and pretty good,especially against Spain and Serbia,it's only because of Saras.What does he have to do to become a promising player?He's only 19 and already has proven that he can play against good centers,but for some he's still a bad player.

[Dudullulu Ulu Lulu]

Valanciunas climbed to the top 2 after Serbia game.

Top Prospects (After Adding Age and Efficiency by Minutes coefficients)

1. Enes Kanter TUR 1992 - 18 M - 9 P, 4 R, 1 B 14/18 = 0,78+0,18+0,50=1,46
2. Jonas Valanciunas LIT 1992 - 17 M - 9 P, 4 R, 1 B, 3 TO 11/17 = 0,65+0,17+0,50=1,32

[Dudullulu Ulu Lulu]

Top 18, 19, 20, 21 years old performers of Eurobasket History (Since 1995)


EUROBASKET - Top 18 years old performers

1. 1995 Marko Milic SLO 1977 9 P, 3 R, 3 A
2. 1999 Sani Becirovic SLO 1981 8 P, 2 R, 3 A
3. 2011 Devon Van Oostrum GRB 1993 1 P, 2 R, 3 A, 2 TO

EUROBASKET - Top 19 years old performers

1. 1999 Lubos Barton CZE 1980 19 P, 6 R, 2 A, 2 S, 2 TO
2. 1995 Mirsad Turkcan TUR 1976 8 P, 8 R
3. 2001 Tony Parker FRA 1982 9 P, 2 R, 2 A
4. 2011 Enes Kanter TUR 1992 9 P, 4 R
5. 2009 Ricky Rubio SPA 1990 6 P, 2 R, 4 A, 1 S
6. 2011 Jonas Valanciunas LTU 1992 10 P, 4 R, 3 TO
7. 1997 Josip Sesar CRO 1978 7 P, 2 A, 1 S
8. 1995 Efthymios Rentzias GRE 1976 6 P, 3 R
9. 2007 Stefan Markovic SER 1988 3 P, 2 R, 2 A, 2 S
10. 2005 Anton Ponkrashov RUS 1986 2 P, 2 R, 5 A, 2 TO, 2 S

EUROBASKET - Top 20 years old performers

1. 2001 Andrei Krilenko RUS 1981 19 P, 9 R, 3 A, 3 S, 3 B, 2 TO
2. 2001 Sani Becirovic SLO 1981 11 P, 5 R, 4 A, 2 S, 4 TO
3. 1997 Marko Milic SLO 1977 12 P, 3 R, 2 A, 2 S, 3 TO
4. 1999 Hidayet Turkoglu TUR 1979 12 P, 3 R, 1 S
5. 1999 Kerem Tunceri TUR 1979 7 P, 3 R, 5 A, 1 S
6. 1999 Matjaz Smodis SLO 1979 11 P, 4 R
7. 2003 Sergey Monya RUS 1983 12 P, 5 R, 2 TO
8. 2001 Antonis Fotsis GRE 1981 9 P, 4 R
9. 2003 Ender Arslan TUR 1983 8 P, 2 R, 2 A, 1 S
10. 2007 Milos Teodosic SER 1987 9 P, 2 R, 2 A

EUROBASKET - Top 21 years old performers

1. 1997 Radoslav Nesterovic SLO 1976 14 P, 9 R, 2 S
2. 2007 Andris Biedrins LAT 1986 15 P, 10 R, 1 B, 3 TO
3. 2001 Pau Gasol SPA 1980 17 P, 10 R, 2 B, 3 TO
4. 2003 Tony Parker FRA 1982 18 P, 3 R, 3 A, 2 S, 3 TO
5. 1997 Efthymios Rentzias GRE 1976 12 P, 4 R, 2 S
6. 2003 Victor Khryapa RUS 1982 10 P, 6 R, 2 A, 1 S, 2 TO
7. 2003 Marko Popovic CRO 1982 11 P, 3 R, 3 A
8. 1999 Dirk Nowitzki GER 1978 15 P, 3 R, 2 A, 3 TO
9. 2001 Juan Carlos Navarro SPA 1980 15 P, 3 A, 1 S, 2 TO
10. 1997 Mirsad Turkcan TUR 1976 9 P, 7 R, 2 S, 2 TO

BEST PROSPECTS RANKING (SINCE 1995)

1. Andrei Krilenko RUS
2. Lubos Barton CZE
3. Marko Milic SLO
4. Sani Becirovic SLO
5. Mirsad Turkcan TUR
6. Tony Parker FRA
7. Enes Kanter TUR
8. Richard Rubio SPA
9. Jonas Valanciunas LTU
10. Hidayet Turkoglu TUR

Best generations

76-81 Russia
76-79 Turkey
76-81 Slovenia

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Top 18, 19, 20, 21 years old performers of
EUROBASKET - Top 21 years old performers

1. 1997 Radoslav Nesterovic SLO 1976 14 P, 9 R, 2 S
2. 2007 Andris Biedrins LAT 1986 15 P, 10 R, 1 B, 3 TO
3. 2001 Pau Gasol SPA 1980 17 P, 10 R, 2 B, 3 TO
4. 2003 Tony Parker FRA 1982 18 P, 3 R, 3 A, 2 S, 3 TO
5. 1997 Efthymios Rentzias GRE 1976 12 P, 4 R, 2 S
6. 2003 Victor Khryapa RUS 1982 10 P, 6 R, 2 A, 1 S, 2 TO
7. 2003 Marko Popovic CRO 1982 11 P, 3 R, 3 A
8. 1999 Dirk Nowitzki GER 1978 15 P, 3 R, 2 A, 3 TO
9. 2001 Juan Carlos Navarro SPA 1980 15 P, 3 A, 1 S, 2 TO
10. 1997 Mirsad Turkcan TUR 1976 9 P, 7 R, 2 S, 2 TO

you forget belinelli that did a great european championship in 2007 when he was 21 years old...

[Dudullulu Ulu Lulu]

you forget belinelli that did a great european championship in 2007 when he was 21 years old...

11. Belinelli
12. Batum

[Dudullulu Ulu Lulu]

LEAST TOTAL TIME (1987 born and younger players)
Which country invested minimum to young players

1. Portugal 99 mins
2. Belgium 130 mins
3. Lithuania 157 mins
4. Israel 211 mins
5. Poland 214 mins

HIGHEST TOTAL TIME (1987 born and younger players)
Which country invested maximum to young players

1. Serbia 1413 mins
2. Greece 944 mins
3. Latvia 804 mins
4. France 682 mins
5. Finland 671 mins

BEST TEAMS - PRODUCTIVITY RATE (1987 born and younger players)
Which country has maximum investment/productivity rate

1. Croatia 0,55 (2 players)
2. Lithuania 0,51 (1 player)
3. Turkey 0,39 (5 players)
4. Russia 0,30 (4 players)
5. France 0,28 (4 players)

WORST TEAMS - PRODUCTIVITY RATE (1987 born and younger players)
Which country has minimum investment/productivity rate

1. Portugal 0,00 (2 players)
2. Bulgaria 0,10 (4 players)
3. Belgium 0,16 (2 players)
4. Finland 0,20 (4 players)
5. Germany, Ukraine 0,21 (5 players)

HIGHEST CONTRIBUTIONS FROM 87 BORN and YOUNGER PLAYERS
Which young players added maximum to their team during tournament

1. Serbia 359
2. Turkey 243
3. Greece 228
4. France 196
5. Latvia 192

LOWEST CONTRIBUTIONS FROM 87 BORN and YOUNGER PLAYERS
Which young players added minimum to their team during tournament

1. Portugal -12
2. Belgium 21
3. Bulgaria 24
4. Poland 57
5. Montenegro 58

TOP 10 PLAYERS (87 BORN or YOUNGER) WHO HAVE HIGHEST PRODUCTIVITY
RATE (+100 MINS)
Which young players meant a lot to their teams

1. Ante Tomic CRO 2.17 1987 = 124 mins +99 = 0,80
2. Emir Preldzic TUR 2.05 1987 = 155 mins +79 = 0,51
3. Jonas Valanciunas LTU 2.10 1992 = 157 mins +80 = 0,51
4. Enes Kanter TUR 2.08 1992 = 142 mins +68 = 0,48
5. Andrey Vorontsevich RUS 2.04 1987 = 190 mins +87 = 0,48
6. Milan Macvan SER 2.05 1989 = 186 mins +85 = 0,46
7. Dardan Berisha POL 1.93 1988 = 129 mins +56 = 0,43
8. Serge Ibaka SPA 2.07 1989 = 189 mins +79 = 0,42
9. Kostas Koufos GRE 2.13 1989 = 181 mins +74 = 0,41
10. Rihards Kuksiks LAT 2.01 1988 = 153 mins +62 = 0,41
10. Nicolas Batum FRA 2.01 1988 = 346 mins +137 = 0,40

TOP 10 PLAYERS (87 BORN or YOUNGER) WHO HAVE HIGHEST PRODUCTIVITY RATE (-100 MINS)
Which young players deserved more minutes

1. Lucca Staiger GER 1.95 1988 = 43 mins +20 = 0,47
2. Oguz Savas TUR 2.11 1987 = 50 mins +23 = 0,46
3. Izzet Türkyilmaz TUR 2.10 1990 = 21 mins +9 = 0,43
4. Gal Mekel ISR 1.90 1988 = 67 mins +28 = 0,42
5. Elmedin Kikanovic BSH 2.01 1988 = 75 mins +28 = 0,37
6. Kyle Johnson GRB 1.93 1988 = 68 mins +23 = 0,34
7. Semen Antonov RUS 2.02 1989 = 77 mins +23 = 0,30
8. Oleksandr Kolchenko UKR 1.95 1988 = 97 mins +32 = 0,33
9. Kévin Seraphin FRA 2.05 1989 = 79 mins +21 = 0,27
10. Elishay Kadir ISR 2.03 1987 = 97 mins +26 = 0,27

Frustration Kings

1. Michail Bramos GRE 1.98 1987 = 241 mins +20 = 0,08
Miami University, Gran Canaria

2. Andrew Albicy FRA 1.77 1990 = 57 mins +1 = 0,02
2010 FIBA Europe Under-20 Championship MVP

3. Stefan Markovic SER 1.91 1988 = 220 mins +20 = 0,09
Power Electronics Valencia

4. Ivan Paunic SER 1.95 1987 = 86 mins +1 = 0,01
Serbian National Team? Too much for him.

5. Sergio Llull SPA 1.92 1987 = 163 mins +11 = 0,07
All-Euroleague Second Team 2011, really?

6. Ersan Ilyasova TUR 2.08 1987 = 217 mins +55 = 0,25
Milwaukee Bucks, decent tournament

7. Ricky Rubio SPA 1.90 1990 = 171 mins +37 = 0,22
He was selected 5th overall in the 2009 NBA Draft.

8. Nikola Vucevic MNT 2.10 1990 = 70 mins +15 = 0,21
He was selected 16th overall in the 2011 NBA Draft.

9. Konstantinos Sloukas GRE 1.98 1990 = 35 mins -8 = 0,00
Greek League Best Young Player 2011

10. Danilo Gallinari ITA 2.05 1988 = 155 mins +59 = 0,38
Already NBA Star but could not be effective like Jonas or Kanter

[Dudullulu Ulu Lulu]

Efficiency: PTS + REB + AST + STL + BLK - FG missed - FT missed - TO - Fouls

BEL

Maxime De Zeeuw 2.05 1987 = 91 mins +22 = 0,24
Jorn Steinbach 1.80 1989 = 39 mins -1 = 0,00

Total: 130 mins +21 = 0,16

BSH

Nihad Dedovic 1.98 1990 = 147 mins +47 = 0,32
Elmedin Kikanovic 2.01 1988 = 75 mins +28 = 0,37
Nemanja Gordic 1.93 1988 = 76 mins +14 = 0,18

Total: 298 mins +89 = 0,30

BUL

Chavdar Kostov 1.95 1988 = 105 mins +14 = 0,13
Pavel Marinov 1.99 1988 = 41 mins +6 = 0,15
Bozhidar Avramov 1.95 1990 = 63 mins +3 = 0,05
Aleksandar Georgiev 2.03 1990 = 33 mins +1 = 0,03

Total: 242 mins +24 = 0,10

CRO

Ante Tomic 2.17 1987 = 124 mins +99 = 0,80
Bojan Bogdanovic 2.03 1989 = 151 mins +52 = 0,34

Total: 275 mins +151 = 0,55

MAC

Vojdan Stojanovski 1.94 1987 = 293 mins +85 = 0,29
Damjan Stojanovski 1.93 1987 = 151 mins +11 = 0,07
Marko Simonovski 1.92 1989 = 0 mins 0 = 0,00
Ivica Dimcevski 2.00 1989 = 0 mins 0 = 0,00

Total: 444 mins +96 = 0,22

FIN

Petteri Koponen 1.94 1988 = 250 mins +45 = 0,18
Gerald Lee 2.08 1987 = 158 mins +37 = 0,23
Sasu Salin 1.90 1991 = 145 mins +29 = 0,20
Mikko Koivisto 1.94 1987 = 118 mins +22 = 0,19

Total: 671 mins +132 = 0,20

FRA

Nicolas Batum 2.01 1988 = 346 mins +137 = 0,40
Nando De Colo 1.95 1987 = 200 mins +47 = 0,24
Kévin Seraphin 2.05 1989 = 79 mins +21 = 0,27
Andrew Albicy 1.77 1990 = 57 mins +1 = 0,02

Total: 682 mins +196 = 0,28

GEO

Tornike Shengelia 2.07 1991 = 164 mins +53 = 0,32
Giorgi Shermadini 2.16 1989 = 122 mins +25 = 0,20
Lasha Parghalava 1.90 1987 = 5 mins +1 = 0,20

Total: 291 mins +79 = 0,27

GER

Robin Benzing 2.09 1989 = 202 mins +45 = 0,23
Philipp Schwethelm 2.01 1989 = 137 mins +22 = 0,16
Lucca Staiger 1.95 1988 = 43 mins +20 = 0,47
Tim Ohlbrecht 2.10 1988 = 53 mins +7 = 0,13
Tibor Pleiß 2.15 1989 = 39 mins +6 = 0,15

Total: 474 mins +98 = 0,21

GRB

Joel Freeland 2.08 1987 = 123 mins +47 = 0,38
Daniel Clark 2.08 1988 = 120 mins +39 = 0,33
Kyle Johnson 1.93 1988 = 68 mins +23 = 0,34
Andrew Lawrence 1.88 1990 = 17 mins +4 = 0,24
Ogooluwa Adegboye 1.86 1987 = 72 mins +3 = 0,04
Devon Van Oostrum 1.93 1993 = 52 mins -5 = 0,00

Total: 452 mins +111 = 0,25

GRE

Nick Calathes 1.97 1989 = 281 mins +88 = 0,31
Konstantinos Papanikolaou 2.03 1.90 = 206 mins +54 = 0,26
Kostas Koufos 2.13 1989 = 181 mins +74 = 0,41
Michail Bramos 1.98 1987 = 241 mins +20 = 0,08
Konstantinos Sloukas 1.98 1990 = 35 mins -8 = 0,00

Total: 944 mins +228 = 0,24

ISR

Gal Mekel 1.90 1988 = 67 mins +28 = 0,42
Elishay Kadir 2.03 1987 = 97 mins +26 = 0,27
Yogev Ohayon 1.90 1987 = 47 mins +5 = 0,11

Total: 211 mins +59 = 0,28

ITA

Danilo Gallinari 2.05 1988 = 155 mins +59 = 0,38
Daniel Hackett 2.00 1987 = 141 mins +28 = 0,20
Andrea Renzi 2.08 1989 = 0 mins 0 = 0,00
Luigi Datome 2.02 1987 = 18 mins -4 0 = 0,00

Total: 314 min +83 = 0,26

LAT

Rihards Kuksiks 2.01 1988 = 153 mins +62 = 0,41
Rolands Freimanis 2.10 1988 = 107 mins +38 = 0,36
Dairis Bertans 1.92 1989 = 107 mins +35 = 0,33
Andrejs Selakovs 2.07 1988 = 81 mins +20 = 0,25
Janis Strelnieks 1.91 1989 = 127 mins +15 = 0,12
Martins Meiers 2.06 1991 = 63 mins +13 = 0,21
Davis Bertans 2.05 1992 = 63 mins +8 = 0,13
Mareks Mejeris 2.07 1991 = 36 mins +3 = 0,08
Arturs Berzins 2.04 1988 = 70 mins -2 = 0,00

Total: 804 mins +192 = 0,24

LTU

Jonas Valanciunas 2.10 1992 = 157 mins +80 = 0,51

Total: 157 mins +80 = 0,51

MNT

Vladimir Dasic 2.08 1988 = 146 mins +47 = 0,32
Nikola Vucevic 2.10 1990 = 70 mins +15 = 0,21
Vladimir Mihailovic 1.94 1990 = 37 mins -4 = 0,00

Total: 253 mins +58 = 0,23

POL

Dardan Berisha 1.93 1988 = 129 mins +56 = 0,43
Piotr Pamula 1.94 1990 = 31 mins +4 = 0,13
Adam Lapeta 2.15 1987 = 40 mins +3 = 0,08
Adam Waczynski 1.99 1989 = 14 mins -6 = 0,00

Total: 214 mins +57 = 0,27

PRT

Cláudio Fonseca 2.06 1989 = 66 mins -5 = 0,00
José Silva 1.94 1989 = 33 mins -7 = 0,00

Total: 99 mins -12 = 0,00

RUS

Andrey Vorontsevich 2.04 1987 = 190 mins +87 = 0,48
Aleksey Shved 1.95 1988 = 237 mins +55 = 0,23
Semen Antonov 2.02 1989 = 77 mins +23 = 0,30
Dmitriy Khvostov 1.90 1989 = 28 mins -5 = 0,00

Total: 532 mins +160 = 0,30

SER

Milos Teodosic 1.95 1987 = 308 mins +87 = 0,28
Marko Keselj 2.06 1988 = 255 mins +86 = 0,34
Milan Macvan 2.05 1989 = 186 mins +85 = 0,46
Milenko Tepic 2.00 1987 = 195 mins +52 = 0,27
Nemanja Bjelica 2.09 1988 = 144 mins +30 = 0,21
Stefan Markovic 1.91 1988 = 220 mins +20 = 0,09
Ivan Paunic 1.95 1987 = 86 mins +1 = 0,01
Boban Marjanovic 2.22 1988 = 19 mins -2 = 0,00

Total: 1413 mins +359 = 0,25

SLO

Zoran Dragic 1.96 1989 = 267 mins +83 = 0,31
Edo Muric 2.00 1991 = 145 mins +34 = 0,23
Luka Rupnik 1.83 1993 = 28 mins -6 = 0,00

Total: 440 mins +111 = 0,25

SPA

Serge Ibaka 2.07 1989 = 189 mins +79 = 0,42
Ricky Rubio 1.90 1990 = 171 mins +37 = 0,22
Sergio Llull 1.92 1987 = 163 mins +11 = 0,07
Victor Claver 2.05 1988 = 33 mins +4 = 0,12

Total: 556 mins +131 = 0,24

TUR

Emir Preldzic 2.05 1987 = 155 mins +79 = 0,51
Enes Kanter 2.08 1992 = 142 mins +68 = 0,48
Ersan Ilyasova 2.08 1987 = 217 mins +55 = 0,25
Cenk Akyol 1.98 1987 = 51 mins +9 = 0,18
Izzet Türkyilmaz 2.10 1990 = 21 mins +9 = 0,43
Oguz Savas 2.11 1987 = 50 mins +23 = 0,46

Total: 626 mins +243 = 0,39

UKR

Viacheslav Kravtsov 2.12 1987 = 110 mins +41 = 0,37
Oleksandr Kolchenko 1.95 1988 = 97 mins +32 = 0,33
Denys Lukashov 1.89 1989 = 96 mins +9 = 0,09
Oleksandr Lypovyy 2.00 1991 = 33 mins +8 = 0,24
Maksym Pustozvonov 2.00 1987 = 87 mins +2 = 0,02

Total: 423 mins +92 = 0,21

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[baller4life]

belinelli is the best,no doubt!

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Belinelli is some 27 or so..