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  • #31
    Originally posted by elaj View Post
    So, it means if I listen to the world renowned philosopher I agree with him on all he says?

    Come on. I even don't like the guy.

    I have to say I agree with him about what the told on that video, but believe me I don't like a lot of what he preaches...
    But what did he say in this video?
    The only thing he said is that there is something else beside western democracy and rule of the Islamic brotherhood, he didn't even say what, and he didn't explain why he is sure 100% that this is what is going to happen.

    And then he brought up Israel in the end, while Israel despite the people have concerns, officially decided to keep silence and only state that whoever govern Egypt we just hope that the peace agreement with Egypt will be kept. And the concerns (of the people here, not officially) are not because we like Mubarak or what he does to his own people, but because we don't know what is going to happen. Nobody does right now.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Alyosha12 View Post
      LOL at calling Slavoj Zizek "the guy from Ljubljana"... Of course he is only next to Chomsky one of the greatest thinkers of our time, but hey he is just the guy from Ljubljana. Just like Sigmund Freud was just the guy from Vienna, Immanuel Kant was just the guy from Germany and Lacan was just the guy from France etc...
      he is a anarchist lunatic that didn't yet get over the collapse of communism... in 1917 that is... considering his widely praised IQ, I can't believe a person can be as stubbourn and narrow-minded as he can ussualy be.

      Liberation? I say, save the people from liberating themselves, they don't know what is coming for them... I'll keep this last sentence in my mind for the next two or three years and we'll see who'll be right, Slavoj "the stalinistic genius" Zizek or me.

      In case I'm right, that would be a freaking shame and just promise you will never again call him one of the greates thinkers of all time in that case
      Originally posted by Jon_Koncak
      That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Joško Poljak Fan View Post
        he is a anarchist lunatic that didn't yet get over the collapse of communism... in 1917 that is... considering his widely praised IQ, I can't believe a person can be as stubbourn and narrow-minded as he can ussualy be.

        Liberation? I say, save the people from liberating themselves, they don't know what is coming for them... I'll keep this last sentence in my mind for the next two or three years and we'll see who'll be right, Slavoj "the stalinistic genius" Zizek or me.
        You do realize that you call him an anarchist AND a stalinist in the space of two sentences, don't you?
        As for "saving people from saving themselves" perhaps you'd like to be the one that does it for them....
        Talking about narrow-mindedness...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by janos View Post
          You do realize that you call him an anarchist AND a stalinist in the space of two sentences, don't you?
          LOL.

          Over in the U.S. liberalism, communism, socialism, fascism, progressivism, Marxism and anarchism all mean the same thing.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Czarkazem13 View Post
            LOL.

            Over in the U.S. liberalism, communism, socialism, fascism, progressivism, Marxism and anarchism all mean the same thing.
            Figures...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by janos View Post
              You do realize that you call him an anarchist AND a stalinist in the space of two sentences, don't you?
              As for "saving people from saving themselves" perhaps you'd like to be the one that does it for them....
              Talking about narrow-mindedness...
              just as I said... 2-3 years
              Originally posted by Jon_Koncak
              That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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              • #37
                I wonder if the wikileaks contributed somehow to all that is happening.

                At least it can be said that Julian Assange is the only one who predicted the revolutions, he was speaking about "wikileaks revolutions".
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                • #38
                  The situation in Libya is a tragedy and disaster

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                  I sure hope the citizens of Libya know how crazy their leader Gadhafi is....

                  I mean the guy has hired mercenaries from other African countries to kill his own people and he will kill each and everyone who will stand in his way

                  I don't know if he has hired more virgin bodyguards to protect him though..

                  Bodyguards:

                  Gaddafi's choice of bodyguards has been the subject of much media attention. His 40-member bodyguard contingent, known as the Amazonian Guard, is entirely female. All women who qualify for duty supposedly must be virgins, and are hand-picked by Gaddafi himself. They are trained in the use of firearms and martial arts at a special academy before entering service

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                  • #39
                    Saif al-Islam Gaddafi #Reuters bit.ly #Libya We will not leave Libya to the Italians or the Turks."
                    WTF? I can maybe understand the Italians part, but Turks!?

                    Anyway, I hope the Libyans make Gaddafi pay for what he's done to them.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
                      WTF? I can maybe understand the Italians part, but Turks!?

                      Anyway, I hope the Libyans make Gaddafi pay for what he's done to them.
                      Maybe he was referring to the days when Libya was under Ottoman rule in the 1500's (even though this lasted till the early 1900's)



                      Well unfortunately today aircrafts and tanks were being used to bomb civilians but since there is no valid media coverage to provide us with full details we can't know the exact number of casualties even though some figures mentioned that those who were killed were in the hundreds.....

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Khalid80 View Post
                        Maybe he was referring to the days when Libya was under Ottoman rule in the 1500's (even though this lasted till the early 1900's)

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Libya
                        Yup, I think that was his thought. The Gaddafis are so confused and scared right now, I'm wondering he didn't mention the Romans and the Byzantines.

                        Well unfortunately today aircrafts and tanks were being used to bomb civilians but since there is no valid media coverage to provide us with full details we can't know the exact number of casualties even though some figures mentioned that those who were killed were in the hundreds.....
                        Aircrafts, tanks and warships are hitting the protesters. Reports are talking about 500 dead, and that's before the heavy weapons were brought. Of course, there's always propaganda from both sides, numbers could be much higher or less.

                        Gaddafi will probably end up like Ceauşescu, a summary execution, and from their current actions it will be too good for them. Or, there will be a civil war.

                        I still can't believe parts of the army are hitting their countrymen. At least there were two pilots with enough common sense as to defect to Malta and not bomb their citizens which are supposed to protect.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Remon View Post
                          I still can't believe parts of the army are hitting their countrymen. At least there were two pilots with enough common sense as to defect to Malta and not bomb their citizens which are supposed to protect.
                          well if im in their place, I wouldn't leave Libya without my family.

                          Is there a significant Turkish minority in Libya, maybe thats what Gaddafi is talking about.
                          you know why I am happy

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Remon View Post
                            I still can't believe parts of the army are hitting their countrymen. At least there were two pilots with enough common sense as to defect to Malta and not bomb their citizens which are supposed to protect.
                            Well it's quite simple.... Those pilots who before taking off refused to go bomb their countrymen were shot in the head at point-blank range and this was shown as an example to those who refused to do what they were ordered.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by b3lowzro View Post
                              Is there a significant Turkish minority in Libya, maybe thats what Gaddafi is talking about.
                              If you're talking about Turkish people living in Libya most of them are in the construction industry and they are trying to get out of Libya just like the South Koreans (also in Libya for construction).....

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Khalid80 View Post
                                If you're talking about Turkish people living in Libya most of them are in the construction industry and they are trying to get out of Libya just like the South Koreans (also in Libya for construction).....
                                so he's just talking BS, man I'd like that guy to step down.
                                you know why I am happy

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