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He played in Plaza rotation of 20 minutes per game (for everyone) that puts his stats down. He is also a defensive PG that creates at a great rate and takes on the opponents best guard. That is his value. He is not a scorer/shooter. Just look at him this year in Zenit. For the first time he has gotten a free reign as a clear No. 1 PG and he destroyed the season...
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1.Spanoulis
2.Teodosic
3.Llull
4.Wanamaker
5.Dixon
6.Calathes
7.Sloukas
8.Guler
9.Jovic
10.Huertel
bogdanovic and de colo not pg more sgComment
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This season if we make a PG top list, Shane Larkin is top5, he is nowadays better than Jovic, Heurtel, Calathes, Rice, Markovic, Guler, Zisis... And he is the youngest of all of them, he is only 24, and it's his first season in Europe.Comment
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I agree with that. But what can we then tell about Doncic? Larkin was in his shadow in almost every game when this 2 teams are met. And maybe this's not his natural position, but Doncit plays on pg position for Laso. And when looking in players stats. have in mind Doncic played less than 20 min., al others near 30 min.Originally posted by jonga View PostLast edited by Killer Bob; 05-17-2017, 05:49 AM.previously known as BenoComment
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No. To be point forward you have to play on forward position and create for the others. Maybe sometimes he looks really like one, but in Europe players like Bogdan and Doncic can easily play as pgs. But in Nba Bogdan will be Sg, Doncic Sg/Sf, other depends on how his body will look in 5 years time.Originally posted by Tevfik1907previously known as BenoComment
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Doncic is the best european young prospect since the 90s, he is already a top player in the euroleague and he is only 18.Originally posted by Beno View Post
I hope we will see again Doncic vs Larkin in the ACB final. Baskonia was second, and will have the homecourt advantage first against Gran Canaria and then against Valencia or Barça, it will not be easy...Comment
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Lol Giannis thoOriginally posted by jonga View Post
Doncic doesn't have Giannis' upside and ceiling and will struggle a lot with the athelticism and the pace in the NBA which might be enough in order not to speculate what he would be able to achieve if he had stayed in Europe. But definitely he comes second or third in that list, assuming Jokic is currently ranked second.1997 - 2012 - 2013Comment
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Where and how has played Giannis with 17/18 years?Originally posted by R1ou View PostLol Giannis tho
Doncic doesn't have Giannis' upside and ceiling and will struggle a lot with the athelticism and the pace in the NBA which might be enough in order not to speculate what he would be able to achieve if he had stayed in Europe. But definitely he comes second or third in that list, assuming Jokic is currently ranked second.
Because of different rules, different defenses allowed and bigger court will Doncic play easier in attack in Nba. But for the same reasons he will struggle in the defense. We will see in Eurobasket how Giannis will play with only 2 steps and different defense on him. First step in the beginning and another 3 or 4 in the end make someone look much faster and easier to finish at the rim. Traveling rules and implementation of them is a joke in the NBA.
Jolic is totally unathletic for Nba standards and look what he's doing.
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Originally posted by Beno View Post
He might not be as much dominant as he is in the NBA and at the same time he should make some adjustments in his game but that will neither diminish his impact nor will stop him from being dominant but to a lesser extent. I remember in 2015 how easily he was finishing around the rim and that was when he was heading to his third professional season. There are simply no players in Europe, or at least there only a few of them so I am not exaggerating, who at the moment can guard him. How is going to be utilised will be up on the coach (there's no one currently) because he hasn't been utilised properly so far.
That was kinda OT.1997 - 2012 - 2013Comment
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No one will guard him one on one and they will leave him with open shots and we will see, if he can make them, not very likely.Originally posted by R1ou View Postpreviously known as BenoComment
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In the European game, Giannis and Doncic will perhaps be on par in a couple of years from now. In the NBA Giannis will probably dominate over Doncic. Although Doncic could potentially become a great shooter like Dirk. This is the only way he can come close to Giannis in the NBA. That said, we have yet to see signs that Doncic will continue to develop.Originally posted by Beno View PostWhere and how has played Giannis with 17/18 years?
Because of different rules, different defenses allowed and bigger court will Doncic play easier in attack in Nba. But for the same reasons he will struggle in the defense. We will see in Eurobasket how Giannis will play with only 2 steps and different defense on him. First step in the beginning and another 3 or 4 in the end make someone look much faster and easier to finish at the rim. Traveling rules and implementation of them is a joke in the NBA.
Jolic is totally unathletic for Nba standards and look what he's doing.PAO EUROPEAN CHAMPION 1996 - 2000 - 2002 - 2007 - 2009 - 2011Comment
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agree he was terrible oly games but i think he one of the best talanted pg but poor defense and unstable ok we may replace with larkin or granger........Originally posted by Tevfik1907Comment
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We must not forget Doncic's great ability in pick&roll situations, this in combination with high basketball IQ and good shooting can be as deadly as great athletic ability. And imho he's not as bad athlete as some people thinks he is. He's body could develop a lot in next 5 years. When Doncic is evaluated and compared with great players from past and the present we tend to forget he's still high school kid and that his future opponents in Nba still playing in school leagues not even in the NCAA. Put any future high school star in Euroleague and he won't look not even near that impressive how Doncic looks today.Originally posted by Victorious View Post
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Originally posted by Beno View PostWhere and how has played Giannis with 17/18 years?
Because of different rules, different defenses allowed and bigger court will Doncic play easier in attack in Nba. But for the same reasons he will struggle in the defense. We will see in Eurobasket how Giannis will play with only 2 steps and different defense on him. First step in the beginning and another 3 or 4 in the end make someone look much faster and easier to finish at the rim. Traveling rules and implementation of them is a joke in the NBA.
Jolic is totally unathletic for Nba standards and look what he's doing.
Giannis was playing in greek second division when he was 18..so what?I hate this kind of argument..Players dont develop the same way.Some hit their ceiling earlier,while others are late bloomers.Rubio was starting at the olympics finals at age 17 while Curry or Westbrook were playing videogames at their homes.Who's the better player now,Rubio or Westbrook?Doncic being a contributor at age 18 in euroleague doesnt necessarilly mean that he'll dominate in NBA in a few years..it doesnt work this way.In fact i have serious doubt whether a guard with his modest athletic abilities can dominate in current NBA but we'll see
tell that to Jasikevicius (or Cabbages as Pacers fans called him)..We must not forget Doncic's great ability in pick&roll situations, this in combination with high basketball IQ and good shooting can be as deadly as great athletic ability.Last edited by Jon_Koncak; 05-17-2017, 11:52 AM.Comment
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I wonder if you have written anything positive in your life?Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
Yes, nobody guarantees anything to Doncic. But I guess is better to have some skills at 18 than none? Doncic for sure won't play Pg in Nba and very possible he won't be Sg either. Ricky Rubio was never even near to Doncic in Euroleague. http://www.euroleague.net/competitio...W#!careerstats
Yes, I know how you appraise Euroleague, no need to hear it again.
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