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  • Originally posted by Cryotek View Post
    Good decision for Maierhoffer, he entered that shallow rookie draft in a high note(played for Gilas), that's why he was eventually picked after Aguilar, and became the ROY...
    While, if he'll just join this year's rookie draft now, I doubt if he'll be selected in the top 3!
    Right. So yeah, for every Menor (where else would he go anyway? He's an undersized scrub unless proven otherwise) there'll be a Maierhoffer (pretty serviceable player now, if he matures he'll be a key cog for any team for years to come)
    If there is no basketball in heaven, i am NOT going.

    SMALLBALL, bitches..

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    • Any Updates on this years draft Applicants?

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      • Originally posted by ariel_muhlach View Post
        can anyone confirm the news that only 4 SMART GILAS players are pushing ahead in joining the PBA Rookie Draft as majority had a change of heart.

        And one of those leaving Gilas is Rajko Toroman favorite Mac Baracael.

        .... does this also mean Toroman is on the way out.

        It is said the players who'll push thru also like to back-out but their agents would not like them to do so.
        selfish agents..
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        • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
          selfish agents..
          As mentioned, players ULTIMATELY make the decision. It's tomfoolery to think that they won't-- unless of course, some are weaklings, sissies (meaning: walang bayag) that they can't even control their own decisions (and agents)

          Accountability people accountability.
          If there is no basketball in heaven, i am NOT going.

          SMALLBALL, bitches..

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          • Originally posted by thecoolcat View Post
            Are you talking about Mark Jevens Tallo? Is he with La Salle now?
            well, i didn't want to name him coz the other guy didn't drop his name as well but yeah...not sure where he is now though, thought he went back to cebu.

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            • Stalwarts from the SMART-Gilas Pilipinas national team as well as amateur hotshots who starred in the PBA Developmental League lead the cast of hopefuls in the 2011 PBA Rookie Draft scheduled on August 28.

              Philippine team point guards Jayvee Casio and Mark Barroca and swingmen Chris Lutz and Marcio Lassiter have turned in their applications for the annual event. Also joining the draft are sweet-shooting forward Mac Baracael, 2009 UAAP Most Valuable Player Dylan Ababou, and backup center Jason Ballesteros. Of the active SMART-Gilas players who were eligible, only team captain Chris Tiu did not join the draft.

              There are rumors, however, that SMART-Gilas management is putting together an offer for some of the players to stay with the program. Draft applicants have until August 26 to withdraw their names from the pool.

              Former Philippine Basketball League Most Valuable Player Paul Lee, meanwhile, leads the list of players coming out of the country’s commercial and collegiate leagues. Lee, one of the most electric players in the amateurs, will be joined by former University of the East teammate Ken Acibar, one of the most promising front court men outside the PBA.

              Also in the draft mix are versatile FEU big man Reil Cervantes, Ateneo steals specialist Eric Salamat, and D-League Foundation Cup MVP Allein Maliksi.





              List of applicants:

              1. Mark Ababon
              2. Dylan Ababou
              3. Ken Acibar
              4. Marc Agustin
              5. Martin Antonio
              6. Jason Ballesteros
              7. Mac Baracael
              8. Mark Barroca
              9. Gilbert Bulawan
              10. Alvyn Cabonce
              11. Marc Cagoco
              12. Jayvee Casio
              13. Reil Cervantes
              14. John Chamberlin
              15. Christopher Concepcion
              16. Felimon Fernandez
              17. Marvin Graebel
              18. Brian Ilad
              19. Gerald Lapus
              20. Marcio Lassiter
              21. Paul Lee
              22. Chris Lutz
              23. Julio Magbanua
              24. Allein Maliksi
              25. James Martinez
              26. Philip Medenilla
              27. Ariel Mepana
              28. Raymond Montaniel
              29. Nino Nabong
              30. Julius Pasculado
              31. Christopher Pestano
              32. John Raymundo
              33. Ezer Rosopa
              34. Eric Salamat
              35. Magi Sison
              36. Paul Sorongon

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              • Originally posted by killmebusy View Post
                crap! why aren't the ncaa/uaap acting on this?? this should be illegal...at least it is in the US...college athletes are banned from accepting anything of value from agents, endorsements, alumni, boosters or the schools themselves that are not part of their scholarship package. maierhofer and menor should be penalized for accepting such things.
                While those US NCAA member schools are getting rich with money from the sponsors, video game companies, sales of jerseys.

                Why should those 2 be penalized for something that has not been declared as illegal by the NCAA/UAAP? There's no rule saying that these are illegal.

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                • "Lee, one of the most electric players in the amateurs, ...."


                  wow Paul Lee runs on batteries huh.

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                  • im surprised Jayvee casio declared, after all he is the starting pg of gilas

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                    • So any mock draft from anyone? Assume the four Gilas players namely; Lutz, Lassiter and Casio will pull-out who'll be your top 10 picks. And another one if ever they won't pull-out.
                      “You don’t have to be a fantastic hero to do certain things – to compete. You can be just an ordinary chap, sufficiently motivated.” - Sir Edmund Hillary

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                      • Mock Draft (with top 3 notable Gilas Players; Casio, Lassiter and Lutz)
                        *This is my opinion regarding the upcoming draft. Hope I made some curious minds rolling.*

                        1. Powerade - JV Casio - it was pretty evident that with Chris Tiu out of the draft this team needs some stability in back court. Players like Celino Cruz and Chico Lanete won't do it. Casio has shown that he can blend well within a system plus the fact that he doesn't need to score much in this team, just ask Gary David and Marc Macapagal.

                        2. Rain or Shine - Marcio Lassiter - getting the best available talent in the draft pool isn't so bad at all. Marcio will be a good compliment with Gabe Norwood and Ranjay Buenafe if ever they'll play together though the unpredictability of Coach Yeng Guiao might be the tiny bit of a problem as he may log fewer minutes than he wants too.

                        3. Air21 - Chris Lutz - still get the best available talent. Lutz game can compliment Willie Miller's game and with DH's contract not yet transacted it's safe to draft Chris Lutz in which just like Hontiveros plays both offense and defense well.

                        4. Powerade - Allein Maliksi - Why not Paul Lee? Well in my opinion, they are stacked with scorers and putting up another ball hog and a guard at that (with Casio, Lanete, Cruz, Reyes, Macapagal and David) will just make this team a Ginebra look-a-like. I think it's time to address the need this time around and that is what makes Maliksi valuable (I even prefer him than Baracael). He can play 3 and 4 spot as well as 2 if ever. Bank the MVP of the D-League in his resume.

                        5. Shopinas - Paul Lee - There you go, in a rebuilding team like Shopinas they need a go to guy and I think that fits Paul Lee's bill. Not much to say because we all know he can be the face of this franchise.

                        6. Alaska - Mac Baracael - I'm really kind of skeptic on this one as to which problem should be addressed for coach Tim Cone's team, that spotty back-up PG for Tenorio or that shallow 2 and 3 spot. But having a Baracael at 2 or 3 is a total upgrade for the Aces filling in the place of Wesley Gonzales. Baracael has proven that he can blend well within a system, let's just hope that if ever he was picked by Alaska he wouldn't warm up the benches.

                        7. Petron/Ginebra - Dylan Ababou - Jason Ballesteros - Dylan Ababou on Petron and Jason Ballesteros on Ginebra. Addressing the needs of the team Ababou and Ballesteros will fill the void of what is needed. Petron needs to have an SG that can shoot the lights out again just like when Hontiveros was with the team and that's why Ababou will fit well (Sorry Pamboy). While Ballesteros -I think- is the most coveted big man in the draft. Ginebra really needs to have a big man as Eric Menk is really aging and even though there are rumors of another Rudy Hatfield comeback a Ballesteros-Ginebra draft is the wises move of all.

                        8. Petron/Ginebra - Dylan Ababou - Jason Ballesteros - Dylan Ababou on Petron and Jason Ballesteros on Ginebra. Addressing the needs of the team Ababou and Ballesteros will fill the void of what is needed. Petron needs to have an SG that can shoot the lights out again just like when Hontiveros was with the team and that's why Ababou will fit well (Sorry Pamboy). While Ballesteros -I think- is the most coveted big man in the draft. Ginebra really needs to have a big man as Eric Menk is really aging and even though there are rumors of another Rudy Hatfield comeback a Ballesteros-Ginebra draft is the wises move of all.

                        9. Talk n Text - Riel Cervantes - I'm also a bit skeptic on this one as to whether they'll try to get Mark Barroca (for loyalty purposes) or Magi Sison (they really need some height) but I still go with Reil Cervantes as he is a Ranidel de Ocampo prototype though not known to be a shooter outside but a bruiser inside. He will be a pretty good compliment to every big men in TnT's roster and give Gilbert Lao a run for his money.

                        10. Air21 - Mark Barroca - with Urbistondo's free agency they now need a point guard. He can either score or facilitate. It's better late than never for Barroca as he can do a good job playing alongside Lutz (if ever he'll stay in the draft) and Willie Miller.

                        11-20
                        -Eric Salamat
                        -Pamboy Raymundo
                        -Magi Sison
                        -Gilbert Bulawan
                        -Ariel Mepana
                        -James Martinez
                        *though I think there will be teams that will forfeit their draft pick.


                        Mock Draft (w/o the 3 notable Gilas)

                        1. Powerade - Paul Lee - Get the best player in the draft?.

                        2. Rain or Shine - Mac Baracael - He will be able to give Yeng Guiao a formidable SF who can shoot (Sorry Gabe) so that Norwood can either play PG if a Norwood-Buenafe-Baracael tandem is on the floor or SG if a Tang-Norwoord Baracaelis in. Nevertheless, Baracael is a versatile player like Norwood.

                        3. Air21 - Allein Maliksi - The need for a scoring 3 for the Air21 franchise is inevitable as for the exit of Hontiveros (if ever), if not he can slide and play the 4 spot if needed.

                        4. Powerade - Mark Barroca - They need a PG that can deliver the goods and he will be a shoo in for that if Casio will pull out. I just hope he can pacify his three scorers (Paul Lee, Mark Macapagal and Gary David) or else it's going to be all one-on-one plays.

                        5. Shopinas - Dylan Ababou - He will be able to rekindle his go-to-guy days in UST as this rebuilding team can make him the face of the franchise.

                        6. Alaska - Eric Salamat - It was said a long time ago that Coach Tim Cone likes how Eric Salamat plays. Though I hope that he could well adjust himself playing the triangle and form a formidable trio with Tenorio and Baguio.

                        7. Petron/Ginebra - Pamboy Raymundo (Petron) Jason Ballesteros (Ginebra) - Pamboy Raymundo knows and excels in Coach Ato's system and with some tinkering in Petron's line-up either they'll get the SG they needed via trade or via Free agency (welcome back DH?) As for Ballesteros? Hahaha you know already.

                        8. Petron/Ginebra - Pamboy Raymundo (Petron) Jason Ballesteros (Ginebra) - Pamboy Raymundo knows and excels in Coach Ato's system and with some tinkering in Petron's line-up either they'll get the SG they needed via trade or via Free agency (welcome back DH?). As for Ballesteros? Hahaha you know already.

                        9. Talk n Text - Reil Cervantes - Either trade this draft pick for future draft pick or get Reil Cervantes and play for the future as Ali Peek is over his peak.

                        10. Air21 - Magi Sison - Need a big man who can score and defend. Though there's still some learning to do Magi Sison will be a big help in the big man problems of Air21 and with Allein Maliksi they can form the future of this franchise or the future tradeable duo.
                        “You don’t have to be a fantastic hero to do certain things – to compete. You can be just an ordinary chap, sufficiently motivated.” - Sir Edmund Hillary

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                        • Originally posted by kepweng View Post
                          Stupid post! Jai reyes plays in the Pba because he worked hard for it and it just so happened that Coke doesn't have a solid point guard in their team.
                          with Powerade having the first pick, they should get Casio
                          http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv...top-pick-casio. That way, they can rid of Jai!
                          Oh, wait, he worked so hard that he belongs in the PBA. hahahahaha
                          So hard that he bumped off Chris Ross. lol
                          Seriously, they should get Casio. Then if Ballesteros is still available, they should get him.
                          Oh, wait again, there's another hardworking Reyes in the team.
                          I'm back. Don't ask why. Just be glad.

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                          • But if you're Powerade (and Rain or Shine and Air 21) wouldn't the whole uncertainty of the Gilas group give you a bit of worry?

                            i can only imagine Powerade's Draft Guide:

                            Plan A - Casio
                            Plan B - Lassiter
                            Plan C - Lutz
                            Plan D - Lee

                            Or something like that.
                            If there is no basketball in heaven, i am NOT going.

                            SMALLBALL, bitches..

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                            • Mock draft v1.0

                              1. Powerade - Marcio Lassiter - young, versatile, athletic...what's not to like? he would also give powerade a much needed scoring lift as they rely too much on gary david. they get the solid 3 their roster lacks.

                              2. Rain or Shine - mark barocca - the team's primary need is point, i'm thinking barocca will be picked ahead of casio coz his skills translate better in the pba than jv coz he is more all around and quicker.

                              3. Air21 - cris lutz - with so many needs they can afford to pick the best talent available...lutz-dondon at the wings is a very formidable duo.

                              4. Powerade - jv casio - the celino/jai/chico committee falls short in a number of ways...plus they still have a 2nd round pick to shore up that frontcourt.

                              5. Shopinas - paul lee - they get the best amateur player to build around...lee can be the face of this franchise for years.

                              6. Alaska - dylan ababou - the 2009 uaap mvp gets an instant crack at the starting lineup as he is surely an upgrade from wesley gonzales. big, strong and smart...tim cone will be delighted.

                              7. Ginebra - jason ballesteros - no argument there...

                              8. Petron - mac baracael - the last of the gilas boys...he will be playing alongside fellow feu alums arwind and denok, he gives them the versatility as he can play 2-4.

                              9. Talk n Text - eric salamat - tnt is a rare case coz they need guards more than bigs or wings...and with salamat being an ateneo grad, mvp and chot reyes stick to their roots and pick the defensive minded guard to bolster their back court.

                              10. Air21 - reil cervantes - with the gilas boys gone, and assuming everyone they had last year stays under contract, cervantes will backup the aging and injury prone danny seigle while eventually grooming him to take over his starting spot.

                              borderline first rounders:
                              allein maliksi - not sure how much teams view him, he had a subpar collegiate career and only one great conference in the dleague so far
                              magi sison - at 6'7 he is a true center...him falling out of the first round is unimaginable if not for the gilas boys
                              ken acibar - tall and athletic in the mold of elmer espiritu...but same with maliksi, he only had one standout year in college though and was only average in one dleague conference

                              notes:
                              - i thought abueva was also joining the draft?
                              - celebrated college pg's james martinez and pamboy raymundo will have a hard time finding a team to play for as most are already set at pg and with other more talented pg's available via free agency (hermida, escobal, lingganay)
                              - the draft would still be a decent batch if the notable gilas guys would withdraw...will be making a mock 2.0 next friday or saturday, depending on the final list of applicants.

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                              • i think lassiter would be the number 1 pick

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