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Playoff B: Panathinaikos v Fenerbahçe
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Originally posted by saras View Posttoo many wrong decisions by feldeine and james when we got in front cost us the game although we could still win it if rivers had made the 3. james can give you a match but can easily give it away as well. and thats the reason i said last year that this kind of players like him or darius adams are clowns and definetely not point guards. i still believe the 2 teams are almost equal but we dont have bogdanovic and udoh,while the others are better than the rest of ulker's team but the difference is made by the big players and those 2 play for ulker. its almost impossible to turn around the series right now but we should at least try and if that doesnt happen i hope obradovic lifts the trophy in constantinopleLast edited by Cuneyt; 04-21-2017, 09:55 AM.
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Yeah, I agree with Beno.
regardless of PAO's level, Fener played flawless for two games in a row (actually for 3 years in a row, 8-0 so far in playoffs). The correct play every single time, for 80 minutes. and in addition to that, their shots are falling (59% and 50% from perimeter), and Udoh is a scarecrow for everyone inside.5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.
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Originally posted by jonga View PostI remember saras (my "favorite" PAO supporter) saying "our team always is favorite playing at home against any team", so this is a disaster, don't you think?
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Originally posted by Beno View PostThis Fener would have destroyed Cska we're seeing in Baskonia series too. Nando is playing like shit, non factor and always in foul trouble. If there wasn't Teo, who had 1 good half in game one and 1 good Q in game 2, Baskonia would have been 2:0 up. For me the most disappointing performance in the playoffs is having Cska. If Baskonia rises it's game, especially defense, a little bit, they can return to Moscow.
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Originally posted by jonga View Post"This Fener would have destroyed Cska" or not, nobody knows. I could say in the same way "this Baskonia would have destroyed PAO like last season" or not, nobody knows. Or Baskonia with homecourt advantage against Fenerbache would be 2-0 or not, but nobody knows. The only truth is that PAO is playing like shit, and Fenerbache is playing well (not impressive against a very poor PAO). In the other series maybe CSKA is not playing their best basketball (they are playing too much better than PAO), but Baskonia can play better too. I think that sometimes people understimate Baskonia, last season we were at the same level than Fenerbache, and this season we are again close of the level or the best teams. With Shengelia our win rate is top4 in the euroleague, I think that in playoffs we are more reliable than this PAO.previously known as Beno
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Let's smile a bit.
Originally posted by Adon View PostRight now PAO is an obviously stronger team with deeper roster. Pascual is the key factor. If he can exploit PAO's advantage, Fener's chances are not at all good.Originally posted by GreenFan View PostThe reality is that if Fener doesn't improve, PAO will do a 3-0.Originally posted by saras View Post5vs5 and according to both teams current form and rosters it should be an easy 3-0 or 3-1 for panathinaikos.Originally posted by Gudura View PostI really think that Fener fans are a bit overhyped about Obradovic.He used to be the best coach in Europe,but he lost that position in recent years. He doesn't pull of the strings completelly even in his own team.Originally posted by Oly_fan View PostUnless fener has a huge turnaround, 3-0 for Pao.Originally posted by tronis View PostPAO will sweep fener.And it will be a pretty easy sweep.Originally posted by tronis View PostIf one Turkish team has a chance for final 4 that is efes not fener..
However, I am pleased to see that we managed to change opinions here. I want to congratulate Pao too, both games were tough but we are more experienced, more focused and know that staying calm in these kind of games crucial factor. Also imho our defence is the best, one level above all in Europe. That's what make you think Pao plays terrible. But I don't agree with you at all. Pao plays well, we are just too good.FENERBAHÇE 2017/2018
Sloukas - Dixon - Sinan
Wanamaker - Guduric - Melih
Datome - Nunnally - Egehan
Melli - Kalinic - Barış
Vesely - Thompson - Ahmet
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saras you are the best! Last two seasons saying "easy 3-0 or 3-1 for PAO"... "impossible to lose a game in the OAKA". And then it's just the opposite.
Originally posted by Beno View PostIt was great game yesterday between Pao and Fener. Pao had pretty solid match. And very poor between Cska and Baskonia, by both teams. And if I remember right, this poor Pao defeated you pretty easily at yout home and took home court advantage from you.
About your last words, yes and this poor Baskonia won both games against Fenerbache easily, one of them by 34.
BTW, Baskonia have the lowest budget of the top8 and 8 new signings, so I think that is the most meritorious team in this quarterfinals.
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Antic: "Singleton told me some stuff so I softly shoved him. He told me I can't do it again so I shoved him again." lol you gotta love him as a teammate. He attracted all anger of Pao fans and decreased pressure on other Fener players.Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
Deli gibi aşığız Fenerbahçe
Bu dünyayı yakarız senin için
Şampiyonluk gelince
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Originally posted by jonga View Post
BTW, Baskonia have the lowest budget of the top8 and 8 new signings, so I think that is the most meritorious team in this quarterfinals.previously known as Beno
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Originally posted by Oly_fan View PostHow is that possible exactly? Is everyone taking a paycut to play for you?
Originally posted by Beno View PostThis is sport. Not some social experiment, where poor should be treated differently. The best team always wins. There's no rewards for the most meritorious team.Last edited by jonga; 04-21-2017, 11:05 AM.
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Originally posted by Oly_fan View PostPao had 11 assists. Not because fener's defence was stopping them from getting more. Because they often attacked without any passes being made.previously known as Beno
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Originally posted by Psofimis View PostHe just needs a couple of lines (coke).
skoupa means sweep.
Btw when I said Bouroussis is one of the biggest losers I meant plays like this.
He always seems to be the one who will screw things up in plays he shouldn't.
Yes he had a great year for Baskonia last season but apart from that and his years in Real where he didn't have a big role he was this kind of player for Olympiakos and Pao.
He can have some great games in the regular season but he will never manage to lead you in championships as a starter.
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