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    Quote Originally Posted by G&B View Post
    Latvian basketball star Janis Timma rejected Real Madrid offer, even before CSKA and Barcelona and will play Baskonija.

    With such a great game and it quickly interested in the NBA.
    Janis Timma I saw last year at qualifying tournament in Belgrade was playing worse than his Japanese opponent in the match they had against Japan.
    He'd be good Serbian league player, but nothing more.

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    He is offensively a very good player with a diverse skillset. He is a Euroleague level player. BUT he is a defensive liability and prone to foul trouble. Big No-No for his position.
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    ... and with a career run by russian mobsters. He'd be in one of those top clubs long ago if it wasn't for that. That should presumably mean he is not the smartest guy around.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joško Poljak Fan View Post
    ... and with a career run by russian mobsters. He'd be in one of those top clubs long ago if it wasn't for that. That should presumably mean he is not the smartest guy around.
    Don't know about the mobsters part, but he used to have serious issues with his heart. Don't know what's the current situation, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okanial View Post
    For Turkish team. Don`t underestimate us when we`re playing at home. Turkey also likes to be underdog and this year we will be definetely if Asik and Erden are out. I just hope they don`t giv Kanter treatment to Yurtseven and we will have a roster of youngsters + Güler - İlyasova and Dixon. I wouldn`t mind a team led by Osman and Korkmaz Those two are the future of Turkish basketball so let them have the reins and grow. Talent and experience wise we will have a lesser team than last year which was already low but I think we will over achieve

    I can't see how Turkey will finish above Latvia and Russia in the group, both of them are superior with more than a couple quality players in their roster. That said, Turkey will need to beat Spain (or Croatia, if they manage to finish 3rd in the group) in the round of 16. Mission impossible for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unnamed View Post
    Janis Timma I saw last year at qualifying tournament in Belgrade was playing worse than his Japanese opponent in the match they had against Japan.
    He'd be good Serbian league player, but nothing more.
    Well I know, your arrogance, just be careful that he not thrown, in your national team by 25-30 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G&B View Post
    Well I know, your arrogance, just be careful that he not thrown, in your national team by 25-30 points.
    I'm probably one of the less arrogant people here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unnamed View Post
    I'm probably one of the less arrogant people here.
    Sorry, I do not know you, but your statement allows the formation of such opinion about you, because you say that those players who are interested in the Euroleague Top clubs are Your full national championship.
    I never said that your team is weak, but now everyone can play basketbal, even in Latvia and there are really great players.

    Frankly, for me as a fan of the Lithuanian national team is equally dangerous to both the Serbian team and the Latvian team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G&B View Post
    Sorry, I do not know you, but your statement allows the formation of such opinion about you, because you say that those players who are interested in the Euroleague Top clubs are Your full national championship.
    I never said that your team is weak, but now everyone can play basketbal, even in Latvia and there are really great players.

    Frankly, for me as a fan of the Lithuanian national team is equally dangerous to both the Serbian team and the Latvian team.
    No, I only said based on three appearances in qualifying tournament in Belgrade he didn't show much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unnamed View Post
    No, I only said based on three appearances in qualifying tournament in Belgrade he didn't show much.
    I think that no matter how they played in the European Championship qualification selection, but they passed successfully. Maybe you should have in mind the Olympic Games qualification ?
    The European Championship will no longer be in Belgrade where will be the other players, the motivation and the team will be different.

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    Anthony Randolph zu Slovenian NT ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    Anthony Randolph zu Slovenian NT ?
    That would be huge for them. Athletic, dynamic big linked with Dragic, Doncic. They could provide some extremely quality, uptempo small ball.

    The flick from the future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    Anthony Randolph zu Slovenian NT ?
    Eurobasket related thread starts to sound like EL rumours and signings thread FFS FIBA


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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    Anthony Randolph zu Slovenian NT ?
    ahaahahah yes man

    Quote Originally Posted by Straight forward View Post
    That would be huge for them. Athletic, dynamic big linked with Dragic, Doncic. They could provide some extremely quality, uptempo small ball.
    Agree,Dragic-Blazia-Doncic-Nachbar-Randolph could be great line up

    Quote Originally Posted by Mindozas View Post
    Eurobasket related thread starts to sound like EL rumours and signings thread FFS FIBA
    Italy is close to sign Jeff Brooks for the next eurobasket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italian Pride View Post

    Italy is close to sign Jeff Brooks for the next eurobasket
    You want me to have a heart-attack


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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    Anthony Randolph zu Slovenian NT ?
    Won't happen, unless the completely changed the citizenship laws...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
    That's funny shit.I cant believe there are sports fans thinking like it.It's like Federer losing to random Japanese player in round 1 of French Open but tournament director stepping in and saying "hey it was a fluke win who wants to watch a random Japanese guy in next round,Federer qualifies"

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    As predicted, Gobert confirmed he won't play in next Eurobasket.

    On the other hand, Mahinmi changed his mind and he might be available to strengthen our frontcourt.

    We still don't know what to expect with Moerman (who declared he wanted to rest this summer) but basically we should only have 2/3/4 nba players (if any..) : Diaw, Fournier, Seraphin baring injuries, maybe Luwawu-Cabarot & Mahinmi.

    We probably will have some rookies at international level to fill the roster such as Poirier (Paris) or Fall (Chalon). Lessort should be a lock unless he is drafted and signs a contract with an nba franchise (which would basically mean summer leagues as everyone knows).

    Once next draft is finished, we should have an idea of our roster for next Eurobasket. Right now it would be something like :
    pg : heurtel, Diot, Westermann
    sg: De Colo, Jackson
    sf: Kahudi, Ouattara/Luwawu-Cabarrot
    pf: Diaw, Tillie
    c: Mahinimi, Lauvergne, Lessort

    With reserves
    backcourt : Konaté, Lacombe, Causeur, Toupane, Beaubois
    frontcourt : Fall, Seraphin, Poirier, Moerman, Yeguete, Jean-Charles, Inglis
    Last edited by raph; 05-14-2017 at 09:01 AM.

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    Bjelica unlikely to play.

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    Long time I haven't posted anything. Well, I guess it was out of disappointment to what kind of shabby circus Jordileague had disintergated into

    Unlike CoachZ, I think it's the rosters depth and not the presence of one or two mega-superstars around whom the national team should be built which is a decisive factor here. And, as witnessed by Lith's recent successful streak, team spirit and chemistry between players are also especially important. It can sound weird but I guess that the quality of your 5th backcourt offensive option gives a much closer approximation to the team's overall power than the individual offensive firepower of your go-to guy.

    So, all in all, I think that there are three teams which stand out (especially judging by the strength of their rosters) and chances are high that they will occupy the podium: Spain (still a favourite of sorts), Serbia and France.

    After that, there is a big pool of teams with maybe Greece somewhat upfront due to having a lot of useful players who are still not old yet already have scores of experience on the highest international level (Papanikolaou, Sloukas, Mantzaris) who can mix quite nicely with their older guys and their promising youngsters. They only have to have enough guts not to turn the team into a 'Greek Freak + some other role players enabling him to attain beastly stats' mode - that's a perfect recipe for disaster in FIBA basketball. The last time it worked was with Nowitzki back in early 2000s and the level of competition's toughness (especially with regards to the disparity between favourites and outsiders) was definitely lower back then. I won't rate them so far as it's better to grasp which kind of rosters will they attain and how the things will be run at federation level. For example, nobody mentions Russia as a possible positive surprise of this tournament but the way federation handled affairs after 2012 was just atrocious and it was a huge factor why a team which was legitimately ranked as third worldwide only some 5 years ago failed so horribly. I don't believe that under Kirilenko main problems will be fixed (and there's no indication of this so far), but maybe with proper preparation process outcome won't be as humiliating for our team as it was during last two EuroBaskets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrorizer View Post
    Long time I haven't posted anything. Well, I guess it was out of disappointment to what kind of shabby circus Jordileague had disintergated into

    Unlike CoachZ, I think it's the rosters depth and not the presence of one or two mega-superstars around whom the national team should be built which is a decisive factor here. And, as witnessed by Lith's recent successful streak, team spirit and chemistry between players are also especially important. It can sound weird but I guess that the quality of your 5th backcourt offensive option gives a much closer approximation to the team's overall power than the individual offensive firepower of your go-to guy.

    So, all in all, I think that there are three teams which stand out (especially judging by the strength of their rosters) and chances are high that they will occupy the podium: Spain (still a favourite of sorts), Serbia and France.

    After that, there is a big pool of teams with maybe Greece somewhat upfront due to having a lot of useful players who are still not old yet already have scores of experience on the highest international level (Papanikolaou, Sloukas, Mantzaris) who can mix quite nicely with their older guys and their promising youngsters. They only have to have enough guts not to turn the team into a 'Greek Freak + some other role players enabling him to attain beastly stats' mode - that's a perfect recipe for disaster in FIBA basketball. The last time it worked was with Nowitzki back in early 2000s and the level of competition's toughness (especially with regards to the disparity between favourites and outsiders) was definitely lower back then. I won't rate them so far as it's better to grasp which kind of rosters will they attain and how the things will be run at federation level. For example, nobody mentions Russia as a possible positive surprise of this tournament but the way federation handled affairs after 2012 was just atrocious and it was a huge factor why a team which was legitimately ranked as third worldwide only some 5 years ago failed so horribly. I don't believe that under Kirilenko main problems will be fixed (and there's no indication of this so far), but maybe with proper preparation process outcome won't be as humiliating for our team as it was during last two EuroBaskets.
    I agree with most of the things you have said. How come you think I am for the star power? I have never stated that, neither when talking about club teams either. This is BTW the deepest Serbia team in recent memory. Just take a look at this possible national player pool:

    PG Teodosic, Markovic, Jovic (Markovic would show up for Djordjevic)
    SG Bogdanovic, Nedovic, Guduric, Milosavljevic
    SF Kalinic, Simonovic, Zagorac, Dangubic
    PF Bjelica, Macvan, Lucic, Jelovac, Bircevic, Mitrovic
    C Jokic, Marjanovic, Raduljica, Kuzmic, Milutinov, Stimac, Musli

    That is tremendous depth, I can't remember that we were so stacked since the late 90s.

    Also, go back some pages I actually wrote in depth about the Russian being one of the dark horses and a great chance to have a decent Eurobasket.
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