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    29/01 Iran 114 Palestine 65
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    FIBA Asia Cup

    09/08 Iran 101 India 54
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    13/08 Iran 83 Jordan 71
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    http://www.fiba.com/news/iran-name-m...i-as-new-coach



    TEHRAN (FIBA Asia Cup 2017) - Mehran Hatami has been named the successor to Dirk Bauermann as head coach of the Iran national men's basketball team. The 52-year-old Hatami played for Team Melli in the Asian Games and FIBA Asia Championships during the 1990s.

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    Iran Squad for WABA Champs

    Oshin Sahakian
    Arsalan Kazemi
    Rouzbeh Arghavan
    Behnam Yakhchali
    Erfan Nassajpour
    Sajjad Mashayekhi
    Vahid Dalirzahan
    Asghar Kardoust
    Mohammad Jamshidi
    Mohammad Hassanzadeh
    Amir Hossein Khandanpour
    Ehsan Samadi

    Coach: Mehran Hatami

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    After WABA, the iranian NT has to go to Japan to play two friendlies, they wanted to send the U18 team but Japan didn't accept that and now they have to send the same team to Japan just to satisfy Japan while this is not even a good time for such friendlies ! but this is a free trip after all. Japan will pay everything.

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    They called up 17 players to the national camp for the new national season, for playing few friendlies in China. there were rumors that we will see Samad and Kamrani in this list but nothing, atleast not yet.

    1. Hamed Haddadi (Petro)
    2. Oshin Sahakian (Petro)
    3. Rouzbeh Arghavan (Petro)
    4. Behnam Yakhchali (Petro)
    5. Mohammad Jamshidi (Petro)
    6. Farid Aslani (Naft)
    7. Sajjad Mashayekhi (Naft)
    8. Asghar Kardoust (Arak)
    9. Navid Niktash (London Lions, BBL)
    10. Ali Allahverdi (Azad)
    11. Mohammad Hassanzadeh (Naft)
    12. Mohammad Yousefvand (Azad)
    13. Navid Rezaeifar (Mahram)
    14. Arsalan Kazemi (Niroo Zamini)
    15. Vahid Dalirzahan (Niroo Zamini)
    16. Amir Sedighi (Chemidor)
    17. Keivan Riaei (Chemidor)

    Coach: Mehran Hatami !

    Hatami was supposed to be just a caretaker but he is still the coach, I wonder if they are really after a foreign coach or not ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohsena2631 View Post
    They called up 17 players to the national camp for the new national season, for playing few friendlies in China. there were rumors that we will see Samad and Kamrani in this list but nothing, atleast not yet.

    1. Hamed Haddadi (Petro)
    2. Oshin Sahakian (Petro)
    3. Rouzbeh Arghavan (Petro)
    4. Behnam Yakhchali (Petro)
    5. Mohammad Jamshidi (Petro)
    6. Farid Aslani (Naft)
    7. Sajjad Mashayekhi (Naft)
    8. Asghar Kardoust (Arak)
    9. Navid Niktash (London Lions, BBL)
    10. Ali Allahverdi (Azad)
    11. Mohammad Hassanzadeh (Naft)
    12. Mohammad Yousefvand (Azad)
    13. Navid Rezaeifar (Mahram)
    14. Arsalan Kazemi (Niroo Zamini)
    15. Vahid Dalirzahan (Niroo Zamini)
    16. Amir Sedighi (Chemidor)
    17. Keivan Riaei (Chemidor)

    Coach: Mehran Hatami !

    Hatami was supposed to be just a caretaker but he is still the coach, I wonder if they are really after a foreign coach or not ?!
    Who is this guy? a big who shoot threes, oh no ..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    It seems our federation (and Mashhoun in particular) doesn't care much anymore, they didn't hire a foreign coach yet which means Mehran Hatami will coach the team in FIBA Asia Cup. time for a new blood for the IBF. Mashhoun did great in his early years but not anymore.

    and btw in a recent interview Hamed Haddadi said he prefer to not play at the FIBA Asia Cup. here are few lines of his interview

    Talk about yourself, when you will join the team ?
    * I talked to Mr Mashhoun and he was nice to let me rest so far, it's 50-50 for me to play in FIBA Asia Cup. I asked them if that's possible to let me rest the whole summer to join the NT later for the World Cup qualifiers. My eternal wish was to play for the NT and I was always available for the team. this is my honor to wear the NT shirt . once that was like a dream for me and it's still a valuable dream to play for the national team. but this year I'm a bit injured and has to take care of that.

    So you may not play at the FIBA Asia Cup ?
    * I'm not saying this tournament is not important but this is not a qualifier for the World Cup nor the Olympics. still I will try, if I get better I will play with honor but still I prefer to rest this summer.

    Without Samad and Kamrani, if you don't join the team we won't have the "golden generation" in Asia after ten years ?
    * I will play for the NT as long as I can, even Samad is always saying he still wants to play. but that was coach's decision to not call him up. he is one of the best, always played in highest level. to me whoever is good should play for the NT (no matter how old) He did a lot for the country and the national team, he was our captain for years and had important roles in our previous victories. but if they want to put him away ,,, I don't know what to call this but they could do it in a better way (with more respect)

    What do you think about the coach ? Mehran Hatami or a foreign coach ?
    Next question please !

    what about Australia and New Zealand being in Asia ?
    This is good for basketball, we may lose at first but the more we play with stronger teams the better we become.

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    I think the young guys would be the best bet to beat nz and australia in the future and not Haddadi that why 2017 tournmanet should be a transition one (as eventually they will make 2021 tournmaent to be more prestigious once they learn the pros and cons of home and away qualifiers), i still believe that home and away could be an olympic qualifier and as wildcard tournamaent to the ones who didnt win a medal in continental tournaments. But still the qualifiers thru continental championships cannot treat the home and away lightly as the best home and away record qualifies them to olympics..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    I agree with Haddadi, the Asian Cup is a meaningless tournament now, players with nagging injuries shouldn't risk their careers in this tournament. Big men especially are going to break down easily without adequate rest, just look at Yao Ming. Besides, you can't play Haddadi forever, it's very likely he'll still be the best Iranian player at age 40, but one day he'll be gone and the sooner you are used to this the better.

    However, I also understand the position of the Iranian federation, because without Haddadi the Iranian offense will change dramatically, from great to mediocre (kind of like China without Yao). I watched a few of Iran's games in China. They lost 2 of 3 games against China Red, which is also an unimpressive team. Iran's defense is still solid and they still rebound great. But offense is a problem. Sahakian didn't come either, the bigs were Arghavan and Kazemi. If I'm not mistaken, neither has any low-post game, Arghavan likes to hang around the elbow setting screens and Kazemi lurks around the baseline or perimeter only interested in offensive rebounds. Of course, nowadays a team doesn't need low post players to carry out an offense, but you need to have talented perimeter players who can break down the defense, and I'm afraid Iran do not have them. The perimeter guys that went to China don't have a quick first step and when picks don't work, they have to take tough shots like they are Kobe Bryant or Stephen Curry. The point guard Mashayekhi has talent, but at this stage he's not good enough. Leave him space, like in a fast break, he can be very creative, but put pressure on him, especially if you appear to double-team him, he'll immediately pick up his dribble. In Game 1, Iran ran a lot of pick-and-rolls and that's how they beat China Red. In Games 2 and 3, especially Game 3, China Red improved on defending pick and rolls and Iran really struggled that game offensively. If they had Haddadi they could have beaten China Red easily.
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    But why in the world would Iran think that Argavhan is the answer in their center position moving forward?
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    I don't understand why some people here think that because it's not a qualification, federation don't have to send their best players. It's an official cup, it's the Asian cup ! In football every team send their best players (Euro, Asian cup, Copa America, Can) to win it because you are champion of your continent for 4 years, etc.
    So that's how i see it : every NT who can win it without their two or three main players can rest them. it's ok as long as you are competitive and can win it whithout them but come on except Australia and China no Asian teams can go without their 3 best players and win it. It's a NT competition not a friendly tournament ! I will always send my best players to the NT. No matter the age of my best players (they can be 17 or 38, i don't care). What matters me is how can I win it ? And not I have to send youngsters for the future. Maybe Iran will never have the chance to win it anymore so more you can win it better is for your country !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    I don't understand why some people here think that because it's not a qualification, federation don't have to send their best players. It's an official cup, it's the Asian cup ! In football every team send their best players (Euro, Asian cup, Copa America, Can) to win it because you are champion of your continent for 4 years, etc.
    So that's how i see it : every NT who can win it without their two or three main players can rest them. it's ok as long as you are competitive and can win it whithout them but come on except Australia and China no Asian teams can go without their 3 best players and win it. It's a NT competition not a friendly tournament ! I will always send my best players to the NT. No matter the age of my best players (they can be 17 or 38, i don't care). What matters me is how can I win it ? And not I have to send youngsters for the future. Maybe Iran will never have the chance to win it anymore so more you can win it better is for your country !
    We love being tagged best in asia, but we have also an "itch" to fight our idols, nba stars, world class nt's, although in reality we get close losses not because were that good but we cause we played hard even if the game isnt winnable, thats why we prioritize to qualify in World Cup and to have the best players available that time, there is possibility that we might sacrifice preparation or even participation of some of our best talents. Its inevitable for us now..

    Even me as a Filipino I want Fadi to win an Asian championship before he hang his sneakers what more the lebanese at their own soil..
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    For me you are for sure in the top 3 in Asia.
    You are number one for your love for the game. It's just unbelievable how you love basketball (We are maybe number 2 in Asia but we are still faaar away from you).
    Gilas is surely the team who play with the most energy (playing hard, running). I had the chance to see your team in Fiba stankovic cup in Lebanon and it was quite impressive.
    In the last 4 years, you were the best ambassador of the Asian continent.
    I love basketball so i can't but just love Philippines NT.
    But to stay on topic.
    My wish is to meet Iran in the final ( just for the revenge ).
    My heart wants Philippines.
    But to be realistic i see an Australian-Chinese final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    For me you are for sure in the top 3 in Asia.
    You are number one for your love for the game. It's just unbelievable how you love basketball (We are maybe number 2 in Asia but we are still faaar away from you).
    Gilas is surely the team who play with the most energy (playing hard, running). I had the chance to see your team in Fiba stankovic cup in Lebanon and it was quite impressive.
    In the last 4 years, you were the best ambassador of the Asian continent.
    I love basketball so i can't but just love Philippines NT.
    But to stay on topic.
    My wish is to meet Iran in the final ( just for the revenge ).
    My heart wants Philippines.
    But to be realistic i see an Australian-Chinese final.
    I dont see any grit for china in this tournament, maybe we can see after our "first" game..

    Australia will be ahving their nbl guys who are 2016 olympians, they will leave a message by trying to be the inaugural champion..

    A lot of sentiment for you guys in this tournament this is unlike 2015 where you just came from a suspension and expectations "internally" (because I am sure lebanese fans will never settle anything less than a finals appearance) is low that time, you didnt even fight your right to play in OQT (Iam sure in our country the sbp leaders would be chastised publicly by not giving them opportunity to see our gilas fight the best in the world..)
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebasketball View Post
    But to be realistic i see an Australian-Chinese final.
    Australia-New Zealand final is a lot more likely in my opinion, but we'll have a better idea when the rosters are announced.

    You can't compare basketball with football, because Europe/South America rules football while USA is the absolute king in basketball. In football, FIFA World Cup is the premiere event by far. In basketball, NBA rules. Few Americans watch international basketball compared to their domestic basketball (NBA/NCAA). (Perhaps I should say few Americans follow ANY international tournaments.) When USA hosted the 2002 FIBA World Championships the seats were almost empty. Can you imagine Brazil hosting a World Cup with nobody attending? When the best country in basketball doesn't care that much about FIBA (remember USA sent D-league level teams in many Americas tournaments) you can't blame the other countries for not following suit.

    But this discussion is probably better suited for another thread somewhere....
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    In as I recall, Australia and NZ will meet in the semi-finals of FIBA Asia if both teams are unbeaten until that point. Both Oz and NZ extended squads have been released. Interestingly, the current Australian NBL All-Stars on tour in China will features I think seven players who are in the twenty player extended squad.

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    Samad Nikkhah-Bahrami finally had an interview about all recent events and criticized Dirk Bauermann heavily

    http://www.isna.ir/news/96050100683/...AA%D9%86%D8%AF

    here is a bit translation of his interview, only important parts

    * The current team is prepared enough with a good preparation, I don't like some people saying that this team is young and it's ok for them to lose. They have to go to win the title, if not be the runner-up, when you set your goal for a top 4 finish, you won't even get close to that. I think most teams will go there with a lot of changes, like Iran we will be without 5 main players (he counts himself too) this is more like a "welcome tournament" for Australia and New Zealand.

    * If we want to develop younger players we have to do that in other tournaments not with the main team for official tournaments. we should not ruin today's result in hope of getting better results 4 or 8 years later.

    *Mr Hatami is the ccoach now, he has to take responsibility for the results. in current situation we never can hire a top class coach, Bauermann, Toroman and Becirovic they were all second or third tier coach. to me Becirovic was better than the rest.

    * I love to play basketball, I still love to play, they said we didn't want to play for the NT but that's not true. the best 12 players should play for the NT no matter how old they are. we keep our best players at home to play with the younger players, that's stupid. if we lose here, nobody will remember we didn't send our best team.

    * I thought Bauermann will be gone after 2-3 years but it didn't take more than few months, during the 2015 Asian Champs we had a meeting with Mashhoun and we told him about the issues, he told us to wait and keep the team together till we win the title and qualify for the Olympics and Bauermann wll never see Iran again. (meaning he will fire Bauermann at the end of the tourney) but he forgot his own words, someone like Bauermann only cares about money, he will go anywhere he gets better offer, no matter Pakistan or somewhere in Germany, I'm glad it didn't take long. when he left I was the happiest person in the world !

    * In past 10 years I always spoke my mind, you can read my interviews, they always wanted to kick me out of the NT but they couldn't when I was 27-28 and at my prime days, I have no personal problem with Mr Mashhoun, he was always an important person in our basketball , if I say something about him and his plans that's because I want to help our basketball improves.

    * I knew from the start that Bauermann is no good for our basketball, before the training he was talking almost an half for the team, talking about the basic things everybody knew. his training was too soft, I always stayed one more hour to train individually. and we had no tactical plan under him, just go and watch the Philippines game. they said I played bad but I think the whole team played bad in that game, and actually I was the only one playing better.

    * After the Philippines game he gathered all the players and said let's watch the game again, then he showed a failed shot of mine and said "look we lost because of this bad shot of Samad ! and I'm sorry to play with him " he ruined me in front of other players, I was their captain, later he called me and told me to talk to the players, I said how I can do that when you already ruined me , if you think I was the reason we lost don't use me and let me go back to Iran, he said no don't get me wrong, I need you, I didn't talk about you but the whole team.
    for the next game I think I had no attempt, only pass and assist. he asked me why, I told him if You don't believe in me why you are stll using me. I'm playing for the NT for 14 years, all I want is helping to win, even if me sitting on bench helps then more than being in the court.

    * We had the potential to beat China but only with a good preparation, with that team in that situation and those preparations, we had no chance to beat China, even if meet them in the final.

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    what about your final roster for FIBA Asia ? is Haddadi and Sahakian IN ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSHAFA View Post
    what about your final roster for FIBA Asia ? is Haddadi and Sahakian IN ?
    nobody knows, very unlikely for Sahakian, he wants to play but apparently they don't want him.

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    Irans main opponent is themselves imo..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..

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