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    Quote Originally Posted by yianis View Post
    Kostas Missas a former junior national team coach has been chosen. He is the 4th choice after the first three rejected approaches for various reasons.
    Also mentioned are players likely to be invited.
    They are guards, Calathes, Sloukas, Mantzaris,Pappas. Dorsey might not be a result of his commitments ie summer league after being drafted.
    Forwards both Antek bros, Agravanis, Papanikolaou, Printezis,Papapetrou and possibly Perperoglou.
    Centres Bourousis, Koufos, Papagiannis and possibly Bogris.
    Alot of depth and quality there if they all make themselves available.
    You guys have Naz Long on your radar at all? Could be the young SG you are looking for. Canadian out of Iowa St who is positioning himself for a Greek passport to give him better professional options. He has distant Greek heritage. If Doresy somehow counts as Greek I think Long does too. A couple years ago he added his Greek family name. Goes by Naz Mitrou-Long now.
    He is playing well in NBA summer league right now, great 3pt shooter which I think Greece is lacking right?

    It's amazing how these kids discover their distant Greek heritage once the realizes the financial value it could have to their professional career if they are not quite good enough for the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    You guys have Naz Long on your radar at all? Could be the young SG you are looking for. Canadian out of Iowa St who is positioning himself for a Greek passport to give him better professional options. He has distant Greek heritage. If Doresy somehow counts as Greek I think Long does too. A couple years ago he added his Greek family name. Goes by Naz Mitrou-Long now.
    He is playing well in NBA summer league right now, great 3pt shooter which I think Greece is lacking right?

    It's amazing how these kids discover their distant Greek heritage once the realizes the financial value it could have to their professional career if they are not quite good enough for the NBA.
    Last I read similar to what you stated earlier is Long was trying to obtain a Greek Passport. If i see anything further about him and possible selection to the Greek team I will post here.
    As for all these players finding their Greek heritage, almost everyone in the western world has alittle Greek in them 😉 maybe Greece should scout further afield ☺

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    Quote Originally Posted by yianis View Post
    Last I read similar to what you stated earlier is Long was trying to obtain a Greek Passport. If i see anything further about him and possible selection to the Greek team I will post here.
    As for all these players finding their Greek heritage, almost everyone in the western world has alittle Greek in them �� maybe Greece should scout further afield ☺
    It is a nice advantage to have over other countries!

    Almost as nice as the immigrant talent that USA, Canada, Brazil and other new world counties benefit from. But Greece has a little of that too

    Is Naz Long good enough to be part of the Greek NT program? I never thought he was that important to Canada, maybe a peripheral player that would be helpful when all the NBA/EL talent is banned from playing. But not likely in our top 20 player pool. But I have to admit he seems to be getting better and better each year, and could be breaking through to that group.

    I am still uncertain if his allegiance is to Greece or Canada. I really think the Greek thing is more about $$$ and the ability to play in Europe/Greece without being an import. Same with Doresy for that matter too - if he sticks in the NBA I am doubtful he ever plays for Greece.

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    Greece announced 16-man preliminary roster:

    PG:
    Nick Calathes
    Vangelis Mantzaris

    SG:
    Kostas Sloukas
    Nikos Pappas
    Tyler Dorsey*

    SF:
    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    Kostas Papanikolaou
    Ioannis Papapetrou
    Thanasis Antetokounmpo

    PF:
    Giorgos Printezis
    Dimitris Agravanis
    Kostantinos Mitoglou

    C:
    Giannis Bourousis
    Giorgos Papagiannis
    Giorgos Bogris
    Zach Auguste


    Koufos and Perperoglou will be missing due to injuries.

    *He was called up just to make it clear that he will be a part of the team in the future, this year he is not going to show up but it was more or less known.
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    Uh, a lot of quality players here but I see a problem with making this squad gel well to play at the highest level. Also I see an issue with shooting, that can be a big problem. Not a single accomplished pure-shooter in the whole roster.

    I guess defensively you could be very formidable (a bit vulnerable at C vs PnR) and should be able to run transition at a very high level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachZ View Post
    Uh, a lot of quality players here but I see a problem with making this squad gel well to play at the highest level. Also I see an issue with shooting, that can be a big problem. Not a single accomplished pure-shooter in the whole roster.

    I guess defensively you could be very formidable (a bit vulnerable at C vs PnR) and should be able to run transition at a very high level.

    Shouting has always been a problem of Greece, missing Perperoglou (and sortly Dorsey) doesn't help either and he's a bigger absence than people might think. On the other hand most of these guys play along each other at their respective clubs and the big majority of them have played together in youth tournaments under the current coach. There could be issues with the team chemistry but I'm more worried on how we'll top the group and therefore possibly avoid Serbia in the quarterfinals
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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo13 View Post
    It is a nice advantage to have over other countries!

    Almost as nice as the immigrant talent that USA, Canada, Brazil and other new world counties benefit from. But Greece has a little of that too

    Is Naz Long good enough to be part of the Greek NT program? I never thought he was that important to Canada, maybe a peripheral player that would be helpful when all the NBA/EL talent is banned from playing. But not likely in our top 20 player pool. But I have to admit he seems to be getting better and better each year, and could be breaking through to that group.

    I am still uncertain if his allegiance is to Greece or Canada. I really think the Greek thing is more about $$$ and the ability to play in Europe/Greece without being an import. Same with Doresy for that matter too - if he sticks in the NBA I am doubtful he ever plays for Greece.
    I haven't read of plans to have Long in the team anytime soon, things though can change quickly in Greek basketball depending on availability of players.

    On another note Konstantinos Mitoglou looks to be part of the final 16 anyone seen much of him whats his potential?

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    Mantzaris-Sloukas-Giannis-Printezis-Bourousis have better than ok shooting and great presence inside.
    They should be on the floor together for 20-25 minutes at least.

    Then we can play Calathes-Papanikolaou-Thanasis-Agravanis-Auguste and make it a pointless game in the 15 minutes remaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    Greece announced 16-man preliminary roster:

    PG:
    Nick Calathes
    Vangelis Mantzaris

    SG:
    Kostas Sloukas
    Nikos Pappas
    Tyler Dorsey*

    SF:
    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    Kostas Papanikolaou
    Ioannis Papapetrou
    Thanasis Antetokounmpo

    PF:
    Giorgos Printezis
    Dimitris Agravanis
    Kostantinos Mitoglou

    C:
    Giannis Bourousis
    Giorgos Papagiannis
    Giorgos Bogris
    Zach Auguste


    Koufos and Perperoglou will be missing due to injuries.

    *He was called up just to make it clear that he will be a part of the team in the future, this year he is not going to show up but it was more or less known.
    Very good roster. SG/SF is the key in my opinion.

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    Seems that Koufos will not be part of the team this year. This will defenetively not help our chronic problem on the center position. Lets see what impact Papagiannis and Bogris will have in the team this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fasoulaki View Post
    Seems that Koufos will not be part of the team this year. This will defenetively not help our chronic problem on the center position. Lets see what impact Papagiannis and Bogris will have in the team this year?
    One way or the other. Any one of them is not as good as Koufos. Bogris in 2015 seemed like a liability. But given that he signed for Olympiacos should be reason enough to consider that he has made some progress. Papagiannis has gained some experience in the NBA, but every good basketball analyst knows that getting some minutes in the NBA is nothing compared to being able to compete for a top team in the EL on a regular basis. On the other hand, it is undeniable that Bogris and Papagiannis are decent players. And the trio Bouroussis, Bogris, Papagiannis is formidable as well. Even though other teams have similar line ups, one can't argue that Greece has a weakness in the paint. This was the case in 2010 where all the weight fell on Bouroussis due to Koufos absence. Moreover, Auguste may well end up taking the stead of either Bogris or Papagiannis.
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    With only 1 naturalized slot - who will get it? Tyler Dorsey, Auguste or Calathes?

    I don't believe any of these folks got their citizenship before age 16 - per fiba rules, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sime0n View Post
    With only 1 naturalized slot - who will get it? Tyler Dorsey, Auguste or Calathes?

    I don't believe any of these folks got their citizenship before age 16 - per fiba rules, correct?
    None of them counts as a natualized player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1ou View Post
    None of them counts as a natualized player.
    This is why FIBA’s “passport-before-the-age-of-16 rule” has garnered a lot of attention. The eligibility rule, which is found in Book 3 Chapter 1 of the FIBA Rules and Regulations, requires “any player having the right to acquire a second nationality at birth” to “lay claim to this right” before reaching the age of 16.[1]

    i think all of these folks got their passports later, so they should still count as naturalized even though they have ties to Greece

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    Quote Originally Posted by fasoulaki View Post
    Papagiannis injured himself during a SL game. Does not look good!
    http://www.eurohoops.net/el/nba-news...smo-tou-video/
    http://www.nba.com/kings/news/georgi...injury-update/

    Looks ok. Sounds like a bruised butt. He did hit the ground hard though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly_fan View Post
    Mantzaris-Sloukas-Giannis-Printezis-Bourousis have better than ok shooting and great presence inside.
    They should be on the floor together for 20-25 minutes at least.

    Then we can play Calathes-Papanikolaou-Thanasis-Agravanis-Auguste and make it a pointless game in the 15 minutes remaining.
    Giannis is definitely not above average. Sloukas, Mantzaris, Papanikolaou, Bourousis and Pappas can shoot the ball. Agravanis and Papapetrou are OK shooters as well. There are actually plenty shooters. It's just that there is no pure shooter. Sloukas and Mantzaris are close to it. But not quite. Then again, Greece rarely ever had pure shooters. I mean, I remember that in the previous generation, Fotsis was the zone breaker. Frankly, I think that the biggest challenge is gluing this team together. But I have a feeling that some of the players will excel under Missas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victorious View Post
    Giannis is definitely not above average. Sloukas, Mantzaris, Papanikolaou, Bourousis and Pappas can shoot the ball. Agravanis and Papapetrou are OK shooters as well. There are actually plenty shooters. It's just that there is no pure shooter. Sloukas and Mantzaris are close to it. But not quite. Then again, Greece rarely ever had pure shooters. I mean, I remember that in the previous generation, Fotsis was the zone breaker. Frankly, I think that the biggest challenge is gluing this team together. But I have a feeling that some of the players will excel under Missas.
    I meant that the 5 as a group have better than ok shooting, even if Giannis can't shoot. Our mistake last year imo was using both Calathes and Giannis together. They don't mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yianis View Post
    I haven't read of plans to have Long in the team anytime soon, things though can change quickly in Greek basketball depending on availability of players.

    On another note Konstantinos Mitoglou looks to be part of the final 16 anyone seen much of him whats his potential?

    Just wanted to point out that Naz Long accepted an invite to Canada's national team tryout for the WC Qualification process (and AmeriCup).
    Selfishly I hope he makes the team to lock him into Canada going forward.

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    Not an actual loss considering he never received a call up, but also there's a plethora of guards in the youth nts that will be able to take over in the upcoming competitions.
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