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Originally posted by #labapilipinas View PostOh, here we go again:
http://sports.inquirer.net/241435/tr...medium=twitterPhilippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023
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Originally posted by Silent Killer View Postdon't believe her.. beth celis is one of the worst writers in philippines..Following Pinoy Hoops While Doing The Laundry At The Same Time!
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Originally posted by PaVi View PostI think, before you even jump to such conclusion, you first have to assess if the team had really blended well. Secondly, are they executing well, and are the imports asserting themselves enough.
A great role import player, should have impact. you can do that if you are a really great defensive player, individually and team wise.
The alab imports are deferring TOO much to its local players. that is not really blending well considering that they are most assuredly being payed well than the locals.
Next to consider is that whether the coach is doing its darnest to coach reasonably at a high level. in all honesty, would you say Coach Mac is coaching at a high level?
other instances, we can give in to the breaks of the game and alab could not do anything about it. However, how do the players respond after setbacks? How do players carry themselves during times of losses and during crunch times? in these instances, a coach plays an important role. How great is he a motivator?
So in essence, @ronnels suggestion can be said to be not bad, given that our experience with blatche seems to put us out of rhythm.
Personally, in my opinion, blatche is a good fit to us, its just that we tend to have a mentality of recognizing or deferring to someone when we see that person as better than us or we think that person has been given the authority to do what he does. If we would act a little bit like ping and abueva, who works within the system but still insists on their personality, we as a team would turn out just fine in the Worlds and the Olympics.
To tie this up with Gilas, I think we should debunk the assumption that our team has the best players in Asia or since we watch a lot of NBA - our PBA stars are just a rung lower than those of the NBA.
Let us face it, a role player in SEABA could work but a role player in the Asian or Worlds might not be enough.
The crux of my comment was just this- we might be fantasizing that our local Gilas line-up can provide all the firepower needed and thus we could defer a scorer like Blatche for a role player.
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the assumption of thinking we have the best player in Asia is confirmed already. Gilas performed better than expected and to myself Im sure given the right Import we'll do better compare to last fiba world.If force, speed, acceleration, gravity, distance and time can compute then why we used chances when it comes to dice. PROBABILITY is just an excuse for a complex computation.
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Originally posted by RONNEL View Postthe assumption of thinking we have the best player in Asia is confirmed already. Gilas performed better than expected and to myself Im sure given the right Import we'll do better compare to last fiba world.
Sure we have good players, but the best?
Having said that, best players does not always mean getting a winning team. What we have though, is a team with so much potential. All it needs is enough training time and a naturalized player that complements its locals roster. it is not remote for Gilas to finally win games against the top teams in the region and the world.
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Originally posted by RONNEL View Postthe assumption of thinking we have the best player in Asia is confirmed already. Gilas performed better than expected and to myself Im sure given the right Import we'll do better compare to last fiba world.
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being best in Asia doesnt mean your qualified in NBA.. look Castro. And if you compare previous national team to Gilas, I think what the difference is System. Basketball is a team sports..look what happen when a talented team like NBA faced the like of Argentine. NBA back then has the best of the world, the most athletic and strong player but Argentine has the perfect blend of player combined with suited system capable of defeating giants.If force, speed, acceleration, gravity, distance and time can compute then why we used chances when it comes to dice. PROBABILITY is just an excuse for a complex computation.
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Originally posted by jerby View PostSee this is what I am talking about. No we don't. If have the best player in Asia then he will probably be playing in the NBA now. In fact if we are so good like we think we are then why have we failed to put a locally grown cager in the PBA in the past years. If we have the best players in Asia then we wouldn't have been in the doldrums in the past 30 decades of international basketball.
Sure we have good players, but the best?
Having said that, best players does not always mean getting a winning team. What we hmmave though, is a team with so much potential. All it needs is enough training time and a naturalized player that complements its locals roster. it is not remote for Gilas to finally win games against the top teams in the region and the world.
One more, just on a curious note, it is really sad to be in the doldrums from the Asian basketball scene for the past 30 decades-- or an equivalent of 300 years. That really sucks so bad. If accurate, this dates back to the 1700's, when Dr. James Naismith, the Canadian whose claim to fame was fathering the sport of basketball, was still imaginatively swimming in his great, great, great, great, and still great, grandfather's nuts, nowhere near being born yet.Last edited by Sam (a.k.a.) Tuwid; 03-19-2017, 08:16 AM.
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Originally posted by RONNEL View Postthe assumption of thinking we have the best player in Asia is confirmed already. Gilas performed better than expected and to myself Im sure given the right Import we'll do better compare to last fiba world.
Only China and Iran can claim that they are the best in some point.
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Originally posted by Sam (a.k.a.) Tuwid View PostMan, I respect your opinion... to each his own, kudos to you that you can strongly express your distrust for the Filipino's capability to accredit itself well in the field of international basketball without the excessive assistance through foreign or more aptly, naturalization process.
One more, just on a curious note, it is really sad to be in the doldrums from the Asian basketball scene for the past 30 decades-- or an equivalent of 300 years. That really sucks so bad. If accurate, this dates back to the 1700's, when Dr. James Naismith, the Canadian whose claim to fame was fathering the sport of basketball, was still imaginatively swimming in his great, great, great, great, and still great, grandfather's nuts, nowhere near being born yet.
For the record, I don't distrust our players. I believe in them, that is why I was brought to this forum back in the days when Gilas 1 was at its inception. Ten years hence and I am still here and missing Sir Nardy . I just can't stand this wrong sense of nationalism - "pinoy pride" complex. The original statement of the post was " we have the best player". Sam, you are a respected poster here, would you take that statement hook line and sinker? I am a lurker, but at times, I post when I need to. If the original post said, "we have the best point guard in Asia", then I would agree because FIBA accorded that honor to Castro. But the best player? Or the best players? We have to remember that despite our resurgence, we have yet to win the FIBA championship or even the Asian games. We have good players and probably, within a decade (that is ten years right ? ) we will finally see our team blossom to its full potential. I know this sounds ludicrous in this day and age but IMHO , modesty and humility are still the very core values of sports. Magaling tayo, alam naman natin yan, di na kailangan pang magyabang. Trans: Don't state the obvious.Last edited by jerby; 03-20-2017, 04:54 PM.
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Nobody in asian basketball really cares if we occasionaly have the best guard, or forward or center or powerpoint presentation in asia. What we need is a national team that is inarguably the best basketball team in asia, as proven by the number of recent asian championships won, and world level performance. We cant even exceed china in that true impartial way of looking at things.
If the gilas nt can win several fiba championships in the next ten years, the phillipines is good in basketball. If it cant, it is not that good. Nothing can be simpler or more convincing than that.
When you cant win championships in tournaments called asian championships, you justify being a loser by saying "we went there to learn, gain experience or participate, or be gender sensitive, or achieve world peace, or promote human rights, od be the myth in the mythical five." For those who win gold medals and championship trophies, no explanation is necessary.Last edited by charmed; 03-20-2017, 10:25 PM.
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